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zorg · 11-10-2008, 02:58 PM

http://www.caradvice.com.au/18543/sport-sedan-shootout/

not sure why they define it as a sedan...

Kris · 11-10-2008, 05:37 PM

Hmm. I'd take that review with a grain of salt. Firstly, the 135 ain't a sedan as you pointed out. Then, the R32 wins? *scratches head*

Guran · 11-10-2008, 06:41 PM

A test of four "sedans" that includes only one true sedan (Evo)!!! Very amusing.

This would also have to be the first time I've heard of rear-wheel drive being considered a "disadvantage" in a sports car. Frankly, that was precisely what I was looking for in the 135i!

aus135i · 11-10-2008, 07:07 PM

Hmmmm rear-wheel drive reach the limit alot sooner then the 4wds? Does he know how to drive? and yea its a 2door.. dont know any SEDANS that comes with 2doors only...

bottom line... crap review!

Zuzu · 11-10-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Guran

A test of four "sedans" that includes only one true sedan (Evo)!!! Very amusing.

This would also have to be the first time I've heard of rear-wheel drive being considered a "disadvantage" in a sports car. Frankly, that was precisely what I was looking for in the 135i!

Without a doubt Bryan... The trouble with this type of write up is that it will convince the un researched buyer with the writers opinion/credability.

professor · 11-10-2008, 07:58 PM

this review deserves to be featured on top gear australia. it would fit right in.

cam2801 · 11-10-2008, 08:08 PM

Thats a bit harsh... even TGA struggles to be as woeful as that review.

At least they know a sedan when they see one.

professor · 11-10-2008, 08:15 PM

"what were they thinking?"!!

m01lim · 11-10-2008, 08:16 PM

And they have the audacity to complain about the interior quality of the 1. What the hell.

Those other 3 are far inferior to the 1 in this respect.

I have just stepped out of a brand new A4 (the new shape). Now Audi has long been considered a benchmark for interior quality, but I was seriously unimpressed by the quality and finish of the new A4. They have really pulled a blindfold over motoring jurnos who still claim it's top of the class. It's NOT. It didnt have the build and hefty feel of a real german car.

I however have no real complaints about the 1 interior so far, other then the cheaper plastic covering the lower part of the dash. But it blends so seamlessly with the higher quality uppder dash, unless you went knocking around, you wouldnt even notice it. I really like the interior of the 1. It feels great is most respects. Theres a real quailty to its build and finish.

aedeau · 11-10-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by m01lim

And they have the audacity to complain about the interior quality of the 1. What the hell.

Those other 3 are far inferior to the 1 in this respect.

I have just stepped out of a brand new A4 (the new shape). Now Audi has long been considered a benchmark for interior quality, but I was seriously unimpressed by the quality and finish of the new A4. They have really pulled a blindfold over motoring jurnos who still claim it's top of the class. It's NOT. It didnt have the build and hefty feel of a real german car.

I however have no real complaints about the 1 interior so far, other then the cheaper plastic covering the lower part of the dash. But it blends so seamlessly with the higher quality uppder dash, unless you went knocking around, you wouldnt even notice it. I really like the interior of the 1. It feels great is most respects. Theres a real quailty to its build and finish.

I think the plastic they use for the reading light bit in the middle, just near the rear view mirror is a bit cheap feeling. But the rest seems pretty good :iono:

Alext · 11-10-2008, 08:53 PM

The sunvisors in the 1 are real cheap. A camry has better ones.

beemer · 11-10-2008, 09:22 PM

i get the feeling that there has been so much good stuff already said about the 1er and that it is agreed generally that it is a great car, that auto writers are trying to come up with some thing different about the 135i, some kind of criticism to bring the car back to its class level. However all the reviews end the same, its a beast!

Gumball · 11-10-2008, 11:18 PM

Dunno why the R32 was even in that comparo - should have been the S3.

R32 is not even in the same class as the evo, sti and 135...

135i2 · 11-11-2008, 12:08 AM

I own a VW R32 and 135 and the std 135 is no match for my modded R. Until I finish the 135 mods of course ...the R32 is a better every day drive no matter what the conditions.

But they both have a very different character...and each to their own....nice to have a choice.

Kris · 11-11-2008, 02:13 AM

Ill take your 'modded' R on.. Comparing modified cars against standard cars is kinda like...ah this makes me laugh

The review is crap, the woman driver says it has too much power she felt like she was going to lose the back on? Oh pleeeease! Go and ride a Vespa

richie_csl · 11-11-2008, 05:48 PM

Kris... That picture is so wrong and you might want to delete it...

richie

WAY · 11-11-2008, 06:29 PM

Hey Richie, how is the CSL going?

WAY · 11-11-2008, 06:31 PM

Prof, you have both the R32 and 135i too so would love to hear your opinion. 135i2, what mods have you done to the R to make it better than the 135i? I am a fan of the R, but it is so much slower than the 135i!

professor · 11-11-2008, 07:08 PM

technically my better-99%'s car, not mine. i enjoy driving it though. the dsg is a technical marvel, but its annoying in anything but flappy-paddle mode (hangs on too long to the gear in S and changes up far too quickly in D). the best part is the launch control. consistent clean starts. it generally drives very well with the ESP off (haldex really does work) and it makes a glorious sound (like a baby version of your c63 - yes, that good).

Gumball · 11-11-2008, 07:33 PM

Last year I nearly bought the R32 (wanted 4 doors) but the interior is so poor and the lack of turbo (to expensive to get any real gains) turned me off. I love the exterior looks and the sound though..

I wonder how much cash would be needed to mod a R32 so it could keep up with Kris's JB3'd 135

)))

Kris · 11-11-2008, 07:41 PM

Gumball, I think there are quite a few R32 SuperCharger kits out these days??? Might be big bucks though

beemer · 11-11-2008, 08:15 PM

i ve read quite alot of reviews in which the slowest car wins because the auther is trying to make some kind of point. i tend to ignore those reviews. i'm gunna ignore this review as well.
wheels magazine compared the r32 and the sti a few months back and the r32 was left behind big time.

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11-11-2008, 07:33 PM	#20
Gumball Lieutenant Drives: JB 135i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney Posts: 527 iTrader: (0)	Last year I nearly bought the R32 (wanted 4 doors) but the interior is so poor and the lack of turbo (to expensive to get any real gains) turned me off. I love the exterior looks and the sound though.. I wonder how much cash would be needed to mod a R32 so it could keep up with Kris's JB3'd 135)))

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11-10-2008, 05:37 PM	#2
Kris Colonel Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA Posts: 2,295 iTrader: (0)	Hmm. I'd take that review with a grain of salt. Firstly, the 135 ain't a sedan as you pointed out. Then, the R32 wins? scratches head

11-10-2008, 07:07 PM	#4
aus135i Captain Drives: M135i (on order) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SYD Posts: 737 iTrader: (0)	Hmmmm rear-wheel drive reach the limit alot sooner then the 4wds? Does he know how to drive? and yea its a 2door.. dont know any SEDANS that comes with 2doors only... bottom line... crap review!

11-10-2008, 07:58 PM	#6
professor Major Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,472 iTrader: (0)	this review deserves to be featured on top gear australia. it would fit right in.

11-10-2008, 08:08 PM	#7
cam2801 Private First Class Drives: 09 135i M Sport Space Grey Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 156 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E82 135i M Sport [0.00]	Thats a bit harsh... even TGA struggles to be as woeful as that review. At least they know a sedan when they see one.

11-10-2008, 08:15 PM	#8
professor Major Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,472 iTrader: (0)	"what were they thinking?"!!

11-10-2008, 08:16 PM	#9
m01lim Private Drives: BMW 125i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Posts: 65 iTrader: (0)	And they have the audacity to complain about the interior quality of the 1. What the hell. Those other 3 are far inferior to the 1 in this respect. I have just stepped out of a brand new A4 (the new shape). Now Audi has long been considered a benchmark for interior quality, but I was seriously unimpressed by the quality and finish of the new A4. They have really pulled a blindfold over motoring jurnos who still claim it's top of the class. It's NOT. It didnt have the build and hefty feel of a real german car. I however have no real complaints about the 1 interior so far, other then the cheaper plastic covering the lower part of the dash. But it blends so seamlessly with the higher quality uppder dash, unless you went knocking around, you wouldnt even notice it. I really like the interior of the 1. It feels great is most respects. Theres a real quailty to its build and finish.

11-10-2008, 08:53 PM	#11
Alext Lieutenant Colonel Drives: B M W Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everest Posts: 1,898 iTrader: (2)	The sunvisors in the 1 are real cheap. A camry has better ones.

11-10-2008, 09:22 PM	#12
beemer force fed Member Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: sydney Posts: 856 iTrader: (0)	i get the feeling that there has been so much good stuff already said about the 1er and that it is agreed generally that it is a great car, that auto writers are trying to come up with some thing different about the 135i, some kind of criticism to bring the car back to its class level. However all the reviews end the same, its a beast!

11-10-2008, 11:18 PM	#13
Gumball Lieutenant Drives: JB 135i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney Posts: 527 iTrader: (0)	Dunno why the R32 was even in that comparo - should have been the S3. R32 is not even in the same class as the evo, sti and 135...

11-11-2008, 12:08 AM	#14
135i2 New Member Drives: Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 21 iTrader: (0)	I own a VW R32 and 135 and the std 135 is no match for my modded R. Until I finish the 135 mods of course ...the R32 is a better every day drive no matter what the conditions. But they both have a very different character...and each to their own....nice to have a choice.

11-11-2008, 02:13 AM	#15
Kris Colonel Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA Posts: 2,295 iTrader: (0)	Ill take your 'modded' R on.. Comparing modified cars against standard cars is kinda like...ah this makes me laugh The review is crap, the woman driver says it has too much power she felt like she was going to lose the back on? Oh pleeeease! Go and ride a Vespa

11-11-2008, 06:29 PM	#17
WAY Brigadier General Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,798 iTrader: (0)	Hey Richie, how is the CSL going?

11-11-2008, 06:31 PM	#18
WAY Brigadier General Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,798 iTrader: (0)	Prof, you have both the R32 and 135i too so would love to hear your opinion. 135i2, what mods have you done to the R to make it better than the 135i? I am a fan of the R, but it is so much slower than the 135i!

11-11-2008, 07:08 PM	#19
professor Major Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,472 iTrader: (0)	technically my better-99%'s car, not mine. i enjoy driving it though. the dsg is a technical marvel, but its annoying in anything but flappy-paddle mode (hangs on too long to the gear in S and changes up far too quickly in D). the best part is the launch control. consistent clean starts. it generally drives very well with the ESP off (haldex really does work) and it makes a glorious sound (like a baby version of your c63 - yes, that good).

11-11-2008, 07:41 PM	#21
Kris Colonel Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA Posts: 2,295 iTrader: (0)	Gumball, I think there are quite a few R32 SuperCharger kits out these days??? Might be big bucks though

11-11-2008, 08:15 PM	#22
beemer force fed Member Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: sydney Posts: 856 iTrader: (0)	i ve read quite alot of reviews in which the slowest car wins because the auther is trying to make some kind of point. i tend to ignore those reviews. i'm gunna ignore this review as well. wheels magazine compared the r32 and the sti a few months back and the r32 was left behind big time.