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      04-15-2009, 05:05 AM   #1
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Question I need to tap into the brains of knowledgeable tuners!

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      04-22-2009, 05:57 AM   #2
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Well, until this post goes away... any tips for avoiding being busted for speeding? I've learned the hard way already about the stupid tripods they set up on straightways.
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Well, until this post goes away... any tips for avoiding being busted for speeding? I've learned the hard way already about the stupid tripods they set up on straightways.
Move to France. All their speed cameras have a big sign beforehand warning you
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      04-23-2009, 11:47 AM   #4
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.. only push as hard as you can if you SEE this sign:



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      04-24-2009, 01:28 AM   #5
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.. only push as hard as you can if you SEE this sign:




exactly.
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      04-24-2009, 02:18 PM   #6
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.. only push as hard as you can if you SEE this sign:



Noted.

Any more tips on what other camera traps they use and what they look like? I've only been in country 4 months and I've 'heard' they have other cameras they use aside from the manually operated tri-pod version I got caught with. I've been told that the large structures with the glass panels on the autobahn are NOT cameras also, but the cameras from Japan look exactly like that so I was wondering about those also.
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I think in Germany it is just the tripod based cameras. Maybe the odd one mounted in a car as well like they have in Belgium.

Those big structures on the autobahns are electronic toll booths for the trucks. Heavy vehicles have to pay tolls to use the motorways in Germany.
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Beware of construction zones and other speed restricted places. Not only the cameras you need to worry about, but also the "unmarked cars" that video tape you as they are following you. Then they pull forward and stick out the lolipop. A friend lost his license for 30 days cause they were tailing him through a speed zone and was rolling way over the limit.

They are also using newer cameras that are better than the tripod boxes and have proximity sensors laying on the side of the road and are harder to spot.
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Watch out for these. One SICK laser (german company) embedded in the guardrail and a 2nd unit with the flash & camera a few meters behind make up this kind of fixed speed trap. These units can distinguish all by themselves if a car, truck or motorcycle is speeding, making it possible to enforce different speed limits without the use of sensors buried under the road or the use of scales, the SICK lasers figure the type of vehicle out by themselves and they can track as many vehicles in all lanes on the highway.
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Typical and most used speed trap in Germany and neighboring countries.
The 1st photo shows one unit of the light barrier in the foreground, the other unit is one the other side of the highway, completing the light barrier. In the background are the flashes (2) and cameras (2):

2 flashes and 2 cameras:

Head unit, as one can see this is near Cottbus, former east Germany. But in terms of cashing in on traffic the east german states have caught up pretty quick;-)


Those light barriers have the upside for the municipalities or states (Autobahn speed traps are operated by the state they're located in) that there's NO countermeasures that could detect them! unlike laser or radar the light barriers do not emit anything that could warn approaching traffic. There is also radar and laser in use on the Autobahn, the state routes (Bundesstrasse) or local city roads, but light barrier based systems are the most common since the use of laser jammers and radar detectors has gone up, even though stiff penalties are imposed if a driver is caught with them.
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      05-10-2009, 03:36 PM   #11
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I can't thank you all enough!

I'll confess... I've already lost my license for 2 months and I can't really afford to be too reckless anymore. Although I've heard after a year the slate is wiped clean of "points". So until late June I am forced to carpool in a Neon.
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