Endgültig. Tradition, Sportliche für jeden Lifestyle: next gen 1 series and Z2 lineup

[SCOTT26]

Endgültig. Tradition , Sportliche für jeden Lifestyle.
Die nächste Generation BMW 1er.

Definitive. Tradition , Sporting and for every Lifestyle.
The BMW 1er.

I am giving you a preview of the finshed article regarding the next generation 1er model , which will go into detail over the new Cost efficient modular platform that will be found under each variant.

I would like to stress this is not the old VW way where very car just shared the same platform without anything to differentate the actual car.

Why BMW will continue to lead the direction of premium small cars.

How the 1er will grow without compromise to weight , efficiency or handling? How a range of engines will continue to offer the best efficiency , performance in the compact class.

And why BMW are wanting to experiment in the segment that will grow larger with new exciting concepts for every level of driver.

And when the curtain goes down , the audience erupts for an encore.


The Backbone : The new modular Chassis.

Efficient Dynamics : Why the BMW 1er will spearhead the first premium line up in the compact segment to offer a hybrid drivetrain for each variant.

Efficient Dynamics Prt 2 : Pioneer to Leader - The first generation of 1er brought many efficient technologies to the compact segment .
The second generation will also bring new options and technology that will be seen across the whole BMW portfolio.

Putting it altogether : How the new 1er will resist the usual jump in weight by using lightweight materials and sophisticated bonding techniques.

Efficiency to Performance : Excitement for enthusiasts at every level.


The Traditional Portfolio .

BMW 1er

BMW 1er Active Hybrid .

BMW 1er Sporthatch.


The Sporting Portfolio.

BMW 1er Coupe

BMW 1er Cabrio.

BMW 1er SuperSports.

BMW Z2.

BMW Z2 Coupe.


The Lifestyle Portfolio.


BMW X1.

BMW X2.

BMW 1er Gran Turismo.

BMW Y1.

The Final Curtain : BMW 135i (E82) Lightweight BMW Performance Concept ., (Lightweight materials , 2 matt paint options)

[Jason]

Thanks Scott!

Here's some further insight from Scott

What the current climate has taught us is that many customers are looking to downsize and we have seen in this time 5er customers becoming 3er customers and 3er customers becoming 1er customers.

Since the introduction of the 1er and the two year cool off stage to see if it binds success before expanding the range. We have learnt especially now that people will pay for premium small cars a lesson we learned with MINI and now something we are learning with the BMW 1er.

The 1er was a very different direction for BMW had the Rover experiment succeeded we would never of had the 1er. Now with expansion the Coupe , Sporthatch and Cabrio have expanded BMW sales in many markets.

With the next generation which begins with the BMW X1 we are looking at expanding the range of 1er models as many customers who will return to BMW might take advantage of something smaller , more efficient but with the same level of luxury.

The list regards some concepts that are undertaken as competition exercises that have made it to the final stage , Although some ideas might not happen , it shows the commitment BMW have to making the 1er one of the key profit making models for the BMW Group.

The BMW 1er -BMW performance Concept is something similar to the BMW M3 CSL - more advantage of lightweight materials and specific options aimed at the enthusiast.
Although there will be a similar option for the M3 Coupe including Matt finishes as Glacier Silver , Matt Black and Clay White. But do not think of them as CSL's.

[135Eye]

So it sounds like the 1 series will become a full lineup of cars like the 3 series is. Im most interested in the coupe but Im glad to see that alot of effort is being put into the different variants and i'm sure the result will be a better engineered product across the line. Has a timetable been laid down for when the next generation 1er will hit the autoshows/dealers?

You just made my morning, no my week. Thanks for the great news.

[bigb135i]

What is the Y1?

[Smokey]

Thanks Scott. I am really interested in the lightweight E82. Do you have anymore details (availability, options, weight, real LSD, etc) regarding this particular vehicle?

[numba1guju]

ohh snap matte paint...confirmed?

[PM3]

I am sure the current climate will make some people downsize but lets not forget that these new cars just keep getting bigger and bigger (and heavier) with every new generation. As i said on the 1er spyshots post. So the reason why i think some people dowsize is just because, for instance, the new 5 is as big as the 7 from a couple generations ago!! And some people dont change these cars every new generation. (i probably only change my 7 when the next gen is here as mine as only 30000 km) and by then the 5er probably is as big as my current 7.
Hell, the new one coup, the smallest bmw apart from the mini is way, way bigger and heavier than my first bmw 1602. Sure i got it almost 30 years ago and things have changed but bmw - and oher car manufactures - have to really make an effort to keep the same size on every new generation but minimize component size and weight. There is a physical limit (roads wont get any bigger) and to be honest i (as a bmw customer) dont really care if the new seven grew by 5 or whatever cm on the outside if inside its pretty much the same - have you seen the size of these new seats are now? if they have all the electric stuff the must weight almost 30 - 35 kg each (just a gess).

But all that info does sound exciting - could you imagine a 135i with less 100 or 130kg and a proper cls soundtrack (probably still the best bmw as ever made) and a proper hidraulic steering?? sign me up scotty !!

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by bigb135i

What is the Y1?

I was just wondering the same thing......

[elciddragon]

Originally Posted by bigb135i

What is the Y1?

It will be targeted towards the american market and probably be a combination of the gran turismo body style with the removal of the hatch lift-gate and replacing it with a pickup style open bed.



Really though, I have no clue, but it will probably be another niche we never knew we needed until BMW told us it did.

[Quick1 TO BE]

ill belive it when i see it at the dealer... until then im sticking to my 135i...


Ash

[jkp1187]

Scott,

Thanks for posting this - interesting to see how the future of the 1ers will play out. I am most interested in seeing if the hatchbacks, X1, or 1 series GT makes it over to the USA (and, dare to dream, with a diesel powertrain?)

[ChrisM135i]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

BMW 1er Active Hybrid .

*Thumb-up* on that
Will be interesting, when the first 1 series Active Hybrid hits the street..

[pit1]

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269943

[Upgrade+]

Nice find friend. So it's sharing the same platform as the mini? So does that mean it will be smaller than the current 1er, or is it that the next generation Mini is bigger? I wonder what the performance aspects of the super sports vs the 135i lightweight specific will be? Let the speculations begin.

[amdmaxx]

Wondering if 1 supersports or e82 lightweight 135 will be the range topper..

[Robert]

Where is the new Mcoupe!

[Jason]

I can't wait for the Z2 personally !

[123d]

The 'Y' is a cross between the 'X' and the 'Z'.Think of the x-coupe concept.

Here's more on the Y-series: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270100

[Bluesummer]

only leave the 1er supersport on the list unless BMW is looking forward to become a GM

[jkp1187]

Originally Posted by Bluesummer

only leave the 1er supersport on the list unless BMW is looking forward to become a GM

Except for the fact that "supersport" is a Chevrolet trim level, and has been since the 1960s. (Camaro SS, Impala SS, etc.)

[aesthetect]

Thanks, Scott. And please keep us posted when the actual article is released.

Cheers

[DVDA]

Originally Posted by Website

The latest and greatest from BMW: an M1 will not make it to production, BUT a ”SuperSports” model based on the BMW 1 Series Coupe will be launched in 2010. The 135i will be a specific performance addition resulting in the use of lightweight materials, such as a Carbon Fibre Roof and bootlid , loss of certain cabin comforts , upgraded suspension and brakes , lightweight glass , all the creative and performance comforts created for the M variant, but not under full MotorSport badging.
This information comes from someone close to BMW and it was posted originally on Germancarzone. As we mentioned a year ago, eventually there WILL be a four cylinder turbo-engine powering the 1 Series models.


With the release or the BMW 1er Coupe and the storming top end model the 135i a model that begs the question , what happens next?
With it’s past BMW history design evoking the 2002 and the E21 and E30 3er models surely there is more to be seen.
Although the premiere of the BMW 1er tii at Tokyo in October 2007 brought the question to the forefront again , although the tii was a preview of an upcoming BMW Performance Package specifically for the 1er Coupe.
How can the 135i be improved? With the original decision, there were plans to move forward with an M1 - History aside regarding the original BMW M1 Supercar, but the name M1 was destined to be reinvented to the new M model of the 1er Coupe.


The 6 cylinder engine originally from the E46 M3 and the upgraded engine for the E46 M3 CSL were both improved, tested and evaluated for use in the top of the line M1. Sadly re-engineering the old block with magnesium to reduce weight and provide the 1 Series Coupe with many unique solutions to be a solitary choice amongst small performance cars, did not produce the results the BMW board had specified.
For many, the question on the M3’s position in the lineup regarding an M1 Coupe was also reconsidered, as the 1 Series was to follow it’s 3 Series brother and be the entry M Coupe . The V8 M3 would be positioned further from the E46 M3 like it is positioned today, which is why there is a gap , even though a considerable one from the 135i to M3.
What solution fill the gap?
It is clear that consumers are asking for more from the 1 Series Coupe, which is a very popular choice for young enthusiasts migrating from the MINI brand or dire choices such as the Mercedes CLC .
BMW are aiming for a back to basics roll out for the current car, beginning with the much talked about four cylinder Turbo charged engine already in development, but not quite as perfected. The four-turbo is pumping out over 240PS and it is still undergoing testing to get the optimum in efficiency, not normally expected for a small performance coupe.
As seen with the advent of the 7 Series F01, BMW have shown how much power can be taken from the existing six cylinder . Originally, it was expected to progress down from the 7 Series to the next BMW Z4 (E89). But BMW have changed their original focus by letting the 7er have all the glory for now.


But the 135i will be one of the first BMW’s to receive the upgraded six cylinder in 2010 together with the next generation BMW 5 Series (F10).
The question of what to do further to take the 1er Coupe to the next level, has resulted in a back to basics formula, which means that a new “SuperSports” model was needed. Limited to the Coupe and only with the 120i (four cylinder turbo) and 135i, the SuperSport model will be a specific performance addition resulting in the use of lightweight materials, such as a Carbon Fibre Roof and bootlid , loss of certain cabin comforts , upgraded suspension and brakes , lightweight glass , basically all the creative and performance comforts created for the M variant, but NOT under full MotorSport badging .


A different body kit will differentiate the SuperSports from the regular BMW Performance Package, and that includes the brakes and additional preformance upgrades .
BMW Performance will be different from the SuperSports series .
The end result is to take a car back to its roots and during times when modernisation, such as comfort equipment and extensive safety requirements, today have only lead to performance cars like this to be considerably larger and heavier compared to original BMW Classics, such as the 2002 turbo and the E30 M3, and are only here in spirit .
Both cars will debut in mid-2010.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/01/04/bm...nched-in-2010/

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