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      08-06-2009, 06:55 PM   #45
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135 is like the "greener grass next door".

If you want the 128 - don't test drive the 135. You'd hate to be left with the feeling of regret.
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      08-06-2009, 07:04 PM   #46
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Unfortunately. Must have goodies pushed the 135i out of our range. Add to that the big difference in insurance, and we just couldn't justify it.

That said, I have told my dealership to never give us a 135 loaner. The 128 is fast fast fast, but the 135 is nirvana. I would just become depressed.

I'm paying $280/6 mo. with State Farm for my 128i...

Same here. My budget was $40K out the door and I opted to have the toys (ipod, bluetooth, etc) on a daily driver than a bare bones 135.

I know the 135'ers on this board really look down on the 128, but truth be told they're not that much different. The 128 w/ sport pack and a good driver will give any bimmer a run for its money during an autocross. It's also a lot faster than the stats posted on the BMW website.
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Same here. My budget was $40K out the door and I opted to have the toys (ipod, bluetooth, etc) on a daily driver than a bare bones 135.

I know the 135'ers on this board really look down on the 128, but truth be told they're not that much different. The 128 w/ sport pack and a good driver will give any bimmer a run for its money during an autocross. It's also a lot faster than the stats posted on the BMW website.


Actually - for the same reason - I chose the 135 because because I rather have a loaded 135 than a barebones 335 for the money.
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My Old car was a n52, thought it was time for a change.
Makes sense, but there is NO WAY you can ever reasonably call the 325xi "slow" as you do in your sig, as anyone who's owned one of Detroit's finest 4-cyl's from the 1980s can attest! (Hello - K-car? GM "Iron Duke"?)
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      08-07-2009, 11:01 AM   #49
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We drove a brand new 328 loaner from the dealership when we were getting our protectant applied, and it was like night and day. No sport seats, automatic transition, average pickup. I will never recommend anyone pass up sport seats. The comfort level is indisputable.

When we got back into our 128, we could immediately see how incredibly well balanced the 1er's are, and how valuable the sport suspension and seats are to the overall experience. There's almost no comparison. I am confident that that 1er series is going to become the gem of BMW, and between the 128 and the 135, you can't go wrong either way.
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135 is like the "greener grass next door".

If you want the 128 - don't test drive the 135. You'd hate to be left with the feeling of regret.
Although I miss the turbo boost from the 135, I couldn't be happier with the 128. Looking forward to ending the break-in period with an oil change and a nice workout for the motor.
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      08-07-2009, 11:47 AM   #51
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Makes sense, but there is NO WAY you can ever reasonably call the 325xi "slow" as you do in your sig, as anyone who's owned one of Detroit's finest 4-cyl's from the 1980s can attest! (Hello - K-car? GM "Iron Duke"?)

haha I mean in comparison to a 135i, the 325xi is a slow car man. Trust me 200 AWHP is a big difference than 300 RWHP
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haha I mean in comparison to a 135i, the 325xi is a slow car man. Trust me 200 AWHP is a big difference than 300 RWHP
Now THAT I can agree with!
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I'll chime in here even though I don't own a 1er. (yet )

I have a 325xi. And I've had 335s as loaners at least 6 times now. The turbo motor is FAST. There's no denying that. Now the boost was fun for a little bit, but I actually got bored of it. Light turns green, hit the pedal for 2 seconds and I'm already over the speed limit. The car didn't even have to downshift for highway passing. The car was too fast for my daily commute. I rarely drive on the highway currently. I normally LOVE to redline my car as much as I can. And my 325, once its over 3000 rpm, is not a slow car. It is quite fun. Plus I get to wind it out longer and listen to the engine sing. Now if I do that in a 35i, I'll definitely get arrested. Redlining a slightly slower car on regular streets is fun to me. I know my friends consider it nice that they never have to push their car over 3000 rpm to do the same thing I use all 7000 rpm to do. 215hp isn't slow at all. It just depends what you look for in a car. BTW, cost was not a reason for getting a 325. 330, 335, and the M3 are all within my budget. But why get a M3 and drive 40 mph all the time? I'll keep my non-turbo.

One thing I REALLY miss not having is a vert. Especially now that its been a nice mild summer here. Not too hot. Perfect convertible weather 5/7 days a week. 128i vert next possibly...? My moonroof will have to suffice for now i guess.
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I'll chime in here even though I don't own a 1er. (yet )

I have a 325xi. And I've had 335s as loaners at least 6 times now. The turbo motor is FAST. There's no denying that. Now the boost was fun for a little bit, but I actually got bored of it. Light turns green, hit the pedal for 2 seconds and I'm already over the speed limit. The car didn't even have to downshift for highway passing. The car was too fast for my daily commute. I rarely drive on the highway currently. I normally LOVE to redline my car as much as I can. And my 325, once its over 3000 rpm, is not a slow car. It is quite fun. Plus I get to wind it out longer and listen to the engine sing. Now if I do that in a 35i, I'll definitely get arrested. Redlining a slightly slower car on regular streets is fun to me. I know my friends consider it nice that they never have to push their car over 3000 rpm to do the same thing I use all 7000 rpm to do. 215hp isn't slow at all. It just depends what you look for in a car. BTW, cost was not a reason for getting a 325. 330, 335, and the M3 are all within my budget. But why get a M3 and drive 40 mph all the time? I'll keep my non-turbo.

One thing I REALLY miss not having is a vert. Especially now that its been a nice mild summer here. Not too hot. Perfect convertible weather 5/7 days a week. 128i vert next possibly...? My moonroof will have to suffice for now i guess.
I totally respect that man, the 325 is a fast car haha. I'm simply comparing it to a 135i in terms of acceleration.
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I totally respect that man, the 325 is a fast car haha. I'm simply comparing it to a 135i in terms of acceleration.
Oh ya definitely. Without a doubt my 325 is a snail compared to a 335. That's how I feel when I get back in my car at the dealer after service. But then I quickly get readjusted to my car and I'm having fun again. I just downshift as needed and keep the revs up in my car when I need to pass someone. But I'm still young. Plenty of time to get faster cars in life.
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      08-08-2009, 12:56 AM   #56
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yeah man, I'm probably younger than you though haha, just had some extra cash coming back from investments and decided to spoil myself
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Hehe. I chose to reinvest my dividends. I really have nothing I need to buy right now anyways. It's a good time to take advantage of the stock market. But I realized what I actually want is a 6MT E46 M3. That car was so much fun to drive.
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twin turbo- alone this makes me take the 135 over the 128 because of what you are getting for the money.
make bigger hp for less when tuning the motor
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      08-09-2009, 12:49 AM   #59
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The 128i has the M-Sport pack now and you can option HID's. Only thing you won't get is the turbo motor, 18" wheels, and bigger brakes. The stock motor is no slouch because the 128 is relatively light for a bmw. and the stock brakes are still very good as long as you aren't tracking. The rims can be upgraded later if you choose.
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- Save money on price of vehicle
- Save gas with better fuel economy, especially because I like to drive fast
- Peace of mind that I won't have to worry about the 135i turbos higher maintenance costs over the long run and HPFP failure problems
- 128i naturally aspirated engine has a nicer exhaust note
- Vehicle asthetically looks practically the same, no major difference
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- Save money on price of vehicle
- Save gas with better fuel economy, especially because I like to drive fast
- Peace of mind that I won't have to worry about the 135i turbos higher maintenance costs over the long run and HPFP failure problems
- 128i naturally aspirated engine has a nicer exhaust note
- Vehicle asthetically looks practically the same, no major difference
I still think that the 128 engine sounds better and is a lot smoother. But the exhaust on the 135 is nicer than the 128.

And I get such a low mpg on my 325xi by driving aggressively. The mpg would actually go up by getting 35i because the engine wouldn't be working as hard to do what I do now.
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Hi 1er people,

1st post here.

Forgive me for resurrecting a very old thread here but I've just been going through this same decision making process. So far, Mister Deep's comments below make sense to me but after spending the last couple of days reading all the old posts here I could find, I'm still in a bit of a quandary.

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The 128i has the M-Sport pack now and you can option HID's. Only thing you won't get is the turbo motor, 18" wheels, and bigger brakes. The stock motor is no slouch because the 128 is relatively light for a bmw. and the stock brakes are still very good as long as you aren't tracking. The rims can be upgraded later if you choose.
The new car would be my wife's daily driver and at the risk of boring everyone, I think I should elaborate a bit. Pardon me if it seems long-winded.

I gather that most of the denizens of this list are considerably younger than we are. When I was younger I couldn't get enough performance. Fair enough. But priorities change and I find that the new BMWs on offer have changed as well.

My wife's current car is an E36 3.2 M3 (red) that we purchased new. Her previous car was a '90 E30 325is (also red) that we also purchased new and we still own. Prior to that she drove a succession of '70s Porsches and Golf GTIs and while she was living in Europe she drove a 5er.

When I was young and in engineering school I used to buy, rebuild and sell '50s sports cars. Some Alfas but mostly 356s and later, early 911s. Needless to say, each time I see the current value of these cars I kick myself for ever selling them.....especially the two Speedsters and the Convertible "D". At the time though, they were just old odd cars.

I also worked as a chassis fabricator and pit crewman for three racing seasons campaigning a McLaren M8C in the old Can Am series and a 911 endurance car. I still have a D/C production Lotus Elan that just sort of fell into my lap one day.

We both are "spirited" drivers but as we have gotten older, we've slowed down quite a bit. When my wife first got the M3 I used to say that the option she really needed was a spindle on the dash to hold all the speeding tickets.

So much for that. Here's the real question:

We seem never to part with autos. (Except of course for the ones that would have made us wealthy!) We tend to buy the best and keep it. Recently however, my wife has been talking about something new and coincidentally, the son of one of her former colleges has been bothering her about selling him the still low mileage M3.

We're both retired now and have been considering an extended trip to visit old friends living all over Europe. European delivery would work well for us but if so, we need to make a decision soon for Spring pick-up.

Fortunately, we are in the position where we can afford any car we want. My first default position was a new M3 but after looking at them, we just don't care for how much larger they've become.

We do like the size (if not entirely sold on the styling) of the 1 series though. If one compares the specs, the 1er is surprisingly close to the E36. Even more surprising to me is that the current 128i with M sport package compares very favorably with the performance of my our current E36 M3! Needless to say, I've always been an advocate of larger displacement, normally aspirated engines. As Briggs Cunningham famously quipped; "The only replacement for cubic inches is cubic dollars".

So, will somebody please offer a good reason why old people like ourselves should spring for a comparably equipped 135is?

Thanks for plowing through this and, in advance, for any good advice.
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I always wanted a car with 300hp and the brakes along with standard xenon and m tech kit sold me on the 135(along with great pricing). After 2 years of ownership it's a great car no doubt but a 128 would of been enough. It's really hard to fully enjoy all the power of this great engine on public roads so sometimes i feel 230hp would of been just fine along with the BMW performance brake kit. As I get older(34) I'm starting to realize the true meaning of "it's better to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow". My next car will no doubt have less power and better mileage, I'm thinking of a 328i turbo or VW GTI would be just fine.
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I'm a youngster here at only 18, and i DD my 128i. I see no reason for me to own a 135i other then pure pleasure of knowing i have car faster then most on the road next to me. The downside to the 135i for me was that i needed a car that is as reliable as possible, the NA 3.0 n52 is exactly this, the n54/n55 have their handful of problems, and while aren't life threatening or too major, or even common, i just can't deal with having the car in the shop at all really. Gas mileage was also a big facter as well as initial cost to purchase it, a 135i wouldve been 10k more for me.

so far in the 4 months ive owned my 128 i put on 7k of fun filled miles. Though if i may recommend packages, get the m-sport if possible, the stock suspension is just too soft, i swapped mine out yesterday and drove it for the first time today and the m-sport is perfect for someone who wants a sporty car and feel while also need highway comfort. Get the xenon upgrade, because the stock halogens were crap and i was forced to go to depo's. While depo's are pretty good, nothing is better then OEM BMW parts.
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