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flyburch · 12-03-2009, 03:45 PM

Some times you push the button and nothing happens. You have to push it again to get it to start.. today took three times anyone else have this problem. Oh it happens after the car sits for a while. Once it starts you can stop it and then hit it again starts right up. Wierd

Cris · 12-03-2009, 03:54 PM

Instead of just pushing and letting go, try holding it down for 2 seconds. I don't know why, but that usually works.

jeremyc74 · 12-03-2009, 03:59 PM

I've never had this happen at all.

Is you car an automatic, or manual?

Also, do you have comfort access, or do you put the key in the dash?

flyburch · 12-03-2009, 03:59 PM

ill try that next time but i think i am holding down for a couple seconds

flyburch · 12-03-2009, 04:03 PM

automatic no comfort access and does it with both keys

jeremyc74 · 12-03-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by flyburch

automatic no comfort access and does it with both keys

Interesting. Mine a manual, and I have CA. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the issue at all though.

I'm wondering if you're hitting the button before it's had time to read the key, and since mine's being read as I'm getting in the car, I don't see it.

Mega Man · 12-03-2009, 04:12 PM

I've never had this problem; maybe it's an automatic thing.

Clutch in, press Start Engine, good to go to the rodeo.

I imagine the lack of a clutch being pressed in on an auto may have something to do with it?

CoolToolGuy · 12-03-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mega Man

I've never had this problem; maybe it's an automatic thing.

Clutch in, press Start Engine, good to go to the rodeo.

I imagine the lack of a clutch being pressed in on an auto may have something to do with it?

On an auto, you step on the brake.

Have Fun,
Rick

Tom K. · 12-03-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolToolGuy

On an auto, you step on the brake.

And if the brake (or clutch with a MT) isn't engaged, than pushing the button will only turn on the ignition - "Radio Readiness" in BMW speak. It will require a second push (along with brake/clutch pedal) to start the engine.

Took me a couple of months to get acclimated to that arrangement.

Tom

flyburch · 12-03-2009, 04:30 PM

i have the brake depressed when this happens

oasis3582 · 12-03-2009, 04:31 PM

I have the auto, non-CA and have never had this happen.

nordique14 · 12-03-2009, 04:35 PM

I talked with a BMW tech one time and he mentioned that he has had to replace quite a few of the key slots. He was referring to the E9x (this was prior to the 1-series coming out). They probably share the same part.

flyburch · 12-03-2009, 04:37 PM

just went out and pushed the button without the brake depressed it turned on the radio the second push with out the brake gave a chime with a indicator light with a foot and a pedal with start over it.. thats just saying idiot step on the brake if you want to start the car.. I have never seen that before so i am stepping on the brake when im trying to start. When I stepped on the brake and pushed the button thing started right up

flyburch · 12-03-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nordique14

I talked with a BMW tech one time and he mentioned that he has had to replace quite a few of the key slots. He was referring to the E9x (this was prior to the 1-series coming out). They probably share the same part.

but i dont have to push on the key to make it work just push the button 2 or 3 times so who knows. i think the slot only gets the key near the sensor. But that could be it

Add1ct · 12-03-2009, 04:41 PM

mine does this too, without CA the button configuration is really just a pain in the ass

flyburch · 12-03-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Add1ct

mine does this too, without CA the button configuration is really just a pain in the ass

so sometimes you have to push it a couple times also

Add1ct · 12-03-2009, 11:06 PM

yea, even with clutch depressed sometimes it takes 3 or 4 times and I'm pushing it so much that it sometimes starts and i don't realize it over the radio and I turn it off and then start it again, I think the whole process is annoying, granted that I always get in the car and go right away, I don't usually ever fart around with random shit before starting the car

cagekicker · 12-03-2009, 11:20 PM

never had that problem either

dragon1761 · 12-03-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolToolGuy

On an auto, you step on the brake.

Have Fun,
Rick

yea. I concur. Ive never had this problem before. But in order to start the car like all others you need to step on the brake.

jeremyc74 · 12-04-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dragon1761

yea. I concur. Ive never had this problem before. But in order to start the car like all others you need to step on the brake.

It's a little strange to me that they make you step on the brake in an automatic, even though it's in park. I've never had another vehicle that had that requirement.

Add1ct · 12-04-2009, 01:24 AM

every auto euro car i've driven has had the step on the brake requirement. american carmakers recently started to add this too after little children were able to turn the car on while standing on the front seat and then were able to shift into reverse or drive with steering column mounted gear levers and run over their parents or siblings- this was big news a few years ago

spellbmw · 12-04-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jeremyc74

It's a little strange to me that they make you step on the brake in an automatic, even though it's in park. I've never had another vehicle that had that requirement.

Owners manual page 56 - "Starting the engine" explains it for both MT and AT...

12-03-2009, 03:45 PM	#1
flyburch Private Drives: none Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: texas Posts: 98 iTrader: (0)	start stop button Some times you push the button and nothing happens. You have to push it again to get it to start.. today took three times anyone else have this problem. Oh it happens after the car sits for a while. Once it starts you can stop it and then hit it again starts right up. Wierd __________________
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12-03-2009, 03:59 PM	#4
flyburch Private Drives: none Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: texas Posts: 98 iTrader: (0)	ill try that next time but i think i am holding down for a couple seconds __________________

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flyburch Private Drives: none Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: texas Posts: 98 iTrader: (0)	automatic no comfort access and does it with both keys __________________

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12-03-2009, 04:30 PM	#10
flyburch Private Drives: none Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: texas Posts: 98 iTrader: (0)	i have the brake depressed when this happens __________________

12-03-2009, 03:54 PM	#2
Cris What's FWD? Drives: Former E82, current E39 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 399 iTrader: (0)	Instead of just pushing and letting go, try holding it down for 2 seconds. I don't know why, but that usually works.

12-03-2009, 03:59 PM	#3
jeremyc74 Banned Drives: '08 135i Montego/Terra Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 5,982 iTrader: (0)	I've never had this happen at all. Is you car an automatic, or manual? Also, do you have comfort access, or do you put the key in the dash?

12-03-2009, 04:31 PM	#11
oasis3582 Lieutenant Drives: 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 477 iTrader: (0)	I have the auto, non-CA and have never had this happen. __________________ Current: BMW 135i cpe BSM / blk/gray / sport / prem / ipod Previous: 2008 Honda Accord Coupe, 2007 Acura RDX, 2005 Pontiac GTO, 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP

12-03-2009, 04:35 PM	#12
nordique14 Major Drives: SGM 135i 'vert Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sharks Territory Posts: 1,454 iTrader: (3)	I talked with a BMW tech one time and he mentioned that he has had to replace quite a few of the key slots. He was referring to the E9x (this was prior to the 1-series coming out). They probably share the same part.

12-03-2009, 04:37 PM	#13
flyburch Private Drives: none Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: texas Posts: 98 iTrader: (0)	just went out and pushed the button without the brake depressed it turned on the radio the second push with out the brake gave a chime with a indicator light with a foot and a pedal with start over it.. thats just saying idiot step on the brake if you want to start the car.. I have never seen that before so i am stepping on the brake when im trying to start. When I stepped on the brake and pushed the button thing started right up __________________

12-03-2009, 04:41 PM	#15
Add1ct Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 135i, 335i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Palos Verdes Estates (SoCal) Posts: 1,850 iTrader: (3)	mine does this too, without CA the button configuration is really just a pain in the ass __________________ E82 N54 6MT 6FL 668 KASW turned in E92 Crimson/Cream N54 6MT, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, Nav, Sat radio, HD Radio, Logic7, PDC, Active Steering, Active Cruise, 6FL, CA

12-03-2009, 11:06 PM	#17
Add1ct Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 135i, 335i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Palos Verdes Estates (SoCal) Posts: 1,850 iTrader: (3)	yea, even with clutch depressed sometimes it takes 3 or 4 times and I'm pushing it so much that it sometimes starts and i don't realize it over the radio and I turn it off and then start it again, I think the whole process is annoying, granted that I always get in the car and go right away, I don't usually ever fart around with random shit before starting the car __________________ E82 N54 6MT 6FL 668 KASW turned in E92 Crimson/Cream N54 6MT, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, Nav, Sat radio, HD Radio, Logic7, PDC, Active Steering, Active Cruise, 6FL, CA

12-03-2009, 11:20 PM	#18
cagekicker Major Drives: '09 crimson red 135i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: yard Posts: 1,323 iTrader: (0)	never had that problem either __________________ 6MT/ N54/ SP= RATID!!!

12-04-2009, 01:24 AM	#21
Add1ct Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 135i, 335i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Palos Verdes Estates (SoCal) Posts: 1,850 iTrader: (3)	every auto euro car i've driven has had the step on the brake requirement. american carmakers recently started to add this too after little children were able to turn the car on while standing on the front seat and then were able to shift into reverse or drive with steering column mounted gear levers and run over their parents or siblings- this was big news a few years ago __________________ E82 N54 6MT 6FL 668 KASW turned in E92 Crimson/Cream N54 6MT, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, Nav, Sat radio, HD Radio, Logic7, PDC, Active Steering, Active Cruise, 6FL, CA

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