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BrokenVert · 02-08-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by madfast

well fwiw that's only because of the rules. you cannot argue against the aero advantage of a roof, but a roof does not make a sportscar. a vert can have a ton of chassis rigidity as long as it was designed that way. case in point Honda S2000. it has a massive "backbone" that makes it handle like a supercar. no roof needed...

Haha I know, I was simply making a point. But If I really want to get technical I can say that the Audi dynasty was built on open cockpit cars (the R8 and R10) even though in the LMP1 class you are allowed to run a closed cockpit. Obviousy its more than that particular choice. But anyway, that can be debated until eternity, so it isnt really worth it.

Add the Miata, Elise,Z3 and Z4 to that list aswell. Pupose-built roadsters for the win, wouldve gotten a CPOed Z4 M if I didnt need the back seat every now and again.

BForbes · 02-08-2010, 06:43 PM

I hope both parties can soon agree to disagree and move on.

BrokenVert · 02-08-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BForbes

I hope both parties can soon agree to disagree and move on.

haha, will do man. Thanks for letting me off with just a broken headlight instead of speeding ticket.

M3_Dust · 02-08-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Numb3rs

How many brokenvert's do you see on Speed channel..?

Rag tops are not the same... ever!

Robert · 02-09-2010, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by M3_Dust

holy shit nice dragon fly

adc · 02-09-2010, 11:08 AM

Let's try to speculate about other things - will the standard 5 double-spoke (teaser pic) be lighter than the optional (premium?) wheel? They're both 18" if I read Scott's comments correctly...

UberXY · 02-09-2010, 11:53 AM

Anyone know approximately what the price and availability date will be on the M version?

Ub

BForbes · 02-09-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by adc

Let's try to speculate about other things - will the standard 5 double-spoke (teaser pic) be lighter than the optional (premium?) wheel? They're both 18" if I read Scott's comments correctly...

I was wondering the same thing. I would not imagine a weight difference. The premium probably looks a lot better.

Levi · 02-09-2010, 12:05 PM

Yes, there will be a difference. Standard are M6 rims and Optional are M3 GTS rims, only in 18" of course. Well I think so.

oasis3582 · 02-09-2010, 12:06 PM

Looks like Autoblog reported on this thread

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/09/m...eries-surface/

chaz58 · 02-09-2010, 01:36 PM

Those are quite the big brakes. Interesting that they didn't show us the calipers. Does make for a teaser.

blacknbean · 02-09-2010, 01:43 PM

i hope this car isnt dct only, or im going to have to pass

ChrisK · 02-09-2010, 01:44 PM

I just hope we get the chance to run Genuine BMW slot/crossed drilled rotors on the front AND the back.

Numb3rs · 02-09-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chaz58

Those are quite the big brakes. Interesting that they didn't show us the calipers. Does make for a teaser.

Yes, but is that Pic of the real stuff, or is Scotty just illustrating a point?

ichiban · 02-09-2010, 10:31 PM

sounds like i need to save my pennies. Is all this worth the 10k premium?

dmboone25 · 02-10-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chaz58

Those are quite the big brakes. Interesting that they didn't show us the calipers. Does make for a teaser.

I agree--but if you look hard at the top right hand section of the picture, you can see the very tip of the caliper....makes me wonder if the color of the calipers have any significance.....

The best thing to me about this picture is the obvious suspension drop--look how little space there is between wheel well and the tire!!!!

dmboone25 · 02-10-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Numb3rs

Yes, but is that Pic of the real stuff, or is Scotty just illustrating a point?

It looks to me like it could be the same car we have been seeing teaser shots of--notice the rubber added to the wheel well--this was to allow for the wider tires, right?

adc · 02-10-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BForbes

I was wondering the same thing. I would not imagine a weight difference. The premium probably looks a lot better.

I'm hoping the premiums will be forged - on the M3, the 19" forged options are lighter than the standard 18". And only about a thousand bucks more expensive.

PrimoM3 · 02-14-2010, 03:36 PM

Just curious if anyone knows (or would like to speculate) whether the new ///M1 will borrow from the Tii or BMW Performance parts bin? I could see them using the steering wheel and interior trim pieces, or maybe the wheels as the 18" option.

What made me think of this was seeing that the 335is is using the BMW Performance wheels.

RobMason · 08-28-2010, 05:16 AM

Here is a description of the 1M Coupe back in Feb. It seems most of these descriptions were correct. A few exceptions, like the car having 19" wheels vice 18s.

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The M1 will differ from the standard 1er with a more muscular appearance especially at the front which receives a trapezoid grille flanked by two intakes to allow air to cool the six piston brakes. The larger grille at the front of the car also allows air into the High Performance Intercooler. underneath the headlights the M1 follows the typical M look by having enclosed headlights or "eyebags" this helps pronounce the front of the car and providing a more sporting look than the conventional 1er Coupe.

Above the brake ducts are tiny lip spoilers that help with airflow these help with additional "Active aerodynamics" to provide downforce. The aluminium bonnet incorporates a subtle hood bulge again to hint at the power underneath flanked by two airducts at each side with one for design symmetery. The front wings of the car are massaged slightly to accomodate the wider track and to neatly fill the arches with standard 18" 5 spoke wheels with optional 18" Competition wheels. 18" will be the optimium wheel size for the M1.

The front wings incorporate the typical M characteristic of a side vent , again the M1 is no different with a slightly shorter vent due to the proportion of front door - wing- arch accomodating the turn signal and insignia. The side sills accomodate a more sculpted appearance again indentifying the car from the standard 135i or BMW performance packet.

Like the front end of the car the rear end is wider with a look that is almost similar to the transition between the previous E46 Coupe and the E46 M3 , broader wheel arches accomodate the larger track , The classic "Ducktail" appearence makes a welcome return with the spoiler now integrated as part of the bootlid for a more cohesive look and additional aid for aerodynamics.

The rear valance/diffuser area takes it's direction from the standard 135i but with open ducts for aerodynamic purpose , the duct is seperated by typical M quad exhaust pipes.
The roof of the car receives the typical BMW M Coupe addition of a reinforced Carbon Fibre Roof to help maintain the lightweight concept.

Summary:

More muscular appearance than standard 1-series
Trapezoid grille flanked by two intakes to allow extra brake cooling
Six piston brakes
High performance intercooler
Sportier looking headlights than standard 1-series
Small lip spoilers above brake duct inlets to provide extra air flow and downforce
The front wings of the car are massaged slightly to accomodate the wider track. Rear end is also wider.
Standard 18" 5-spoke wheels with optional 18" Competition wheels (18" will be the optimium wheel size for the M1)
Signature M side vent
Broader wheel arches to accomodate larger track
"Ducktail" CSL style rear trunk (integrated spoiler)
Rear valance/diffuser area takes its direction from the standard 135i but with open ducts for aerodynamic purpose
Signature M quad exhaust pipes
Reinforced carbon fiber roof

Attachment 346676

blueshark · 08-28-2010, 01:47 PM

What's the estimated weight vs the 1?

SCOTT26 · 08-28-2010, 02:36 PM

Yes that was when I saw the car as a full scale clay model in the M Design Studio. Unfortunately in some cases the designers vision has to be altered to suit the engineers needs. The side intake is one such idea as the initial intakes placed on the upper part of the wing were too small and inadequate.

The color of the car will remain exclusive to the 1M but it will also feature with the new BMW M6 in mid 2012, and we might add it to an end of the road M3 before it's demise.

After the World Premiere I will show you every Avatar and every photo teased previously which show some of the early conception of the car.

The car should be in Los Angeles later tonight or early in the morning , we will be shooting to Wednesday and then the car will be transported to New York and flown back to Munich by the weekend.

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adc Brigadier General Drives: 2009 E90 M3 ED Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MD/DC Posts: 3,946 iTrader: (6)	Let's try to speculate about other things - will the standard 5 double-spoke (teaser pic) be lighter than the optional (premium?) wheel? They're both 18" if I read Scott's comments correctly...

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Levi Colonel Drives: Alfa Romeo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,524 iTrader: (0)	Yes, there will be a difference. Standard are M6 rims and Optional are M3 GTS rims, only in 18" of course. Well I think so.

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blacknbean Captain Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SF Posts: 916 iTrader: (2)	i hope this car isnt dct only, or im going to have to pass

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SCOTT26 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Amazonite Silver Beauty Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WORLDWIDE Posts: 1,964 iTrader: (0)	Yes that was when I saw the car as a full scale clay model in the M Design Studio. Unfortunately in some cases the designers vision has to be altered to suit the engineers needs. The side intake is one such idea as the initial intakes placed on the upper part of the wing were too small and inadequate. The color of the car will remain exclusive to the 1M but it will also feature with the new BMW M6 in mid 2012, and we might add it to an end of the road M3 before it's demise. After the World Premiere I will show you every Avatar and every photo teased previously which show some of the early conception of the car. The car should be in Los Angeles later tonight or early in the morning , we will be shooting to Wednesday and then the car will be transported to New York and flown back to Munich by the weekend.