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jmunro · 07-27-2010, 09:46 PM

The ZCP they tested with 0-60 of 3.9 must have been a "press" car...

BForbes · 07-27-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

A ZCP M3 is not faster from 0-60 than a non ZCP. ZCP is all about handling.

Road and Track tested a non-ZCP M3 not that long ago and got 0-60 in 4.1.

I don't trust any of these mags.

Whatever makes you feel better ChrisK.

BMW knew the RS5 was coming along with the CTS-V. It wasn't just handling that kept it competitive against these juggernauts.

MotorTrend.com and CarandD tested different cars. The trap speeds weren't off my much. Its on the M/T site. CarandD should be avail for our consumption in a few days online.

spiderz17 · 07-28-2010, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Yes I am down for a 1M Coupe.

Me too!! I took the plunge yesterday and dropped a deposit on a 1M.

As long as the base price doesn't climb any higher than about $47k, I'll trust the ///M guys to take care of the rest.

red-sauerkraut · 07-28-2010, 03:31 AM

BINGO!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi

M1 E82 will smoke M3 E92, but M3 F32 will rape M1 E82.

ChrisK · 07-28-2010, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BForbes

Whatever makes you feel better ChrisK.

BMW knew the RS5 was coming along with the CTS-V. It wasn't just handling that kept it competitive against these juggernauts.

MotorTrend.com and CarandD tested different cars. The trap speeds weren't off my much. Its on the M/T site. CarandD should be avail for our consumption in a few days online.

Motortrend

RS5: 0-60 - 4.3s
M3 (ZCP): 0-60 - 4.1s
CTS-V: 0-60 - 4.1s

Car & Driver

RS5: 0-60 - 4.0s
M3 (ZCP): 0-60 - 3.9s
CTS-V: 0-60 - 3.9s

Track conditions and driver. It's a "Press" car. Look at the Audi's times.

Also there was a recent software update to the DCT system, that might make a difference, but all new M3's would have the update now.

I'll tell you next week when I pick mine up at the Welt

BForbes · 07-28-2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

Motortrend

RS5: 0-60 - 4.3s
M3 (Non ZCP): 0-60 - 4.1s
CTS-V: 0-60 - 4.1s

Car & Driver

RS5: 0-60 - 4.0s
M3 (ZCP): 0-60 - 3.9s
CTS-V: 0-60 - 3.9s

Track conditions and driver. It's a "Press" car. Look at the Audi's times.

Also there was a recent software update to the DCT system, that might make a difference, but all new M3's would have the update now.

I'll tell you next week when I pick mine up at the Welt

I'm telling you something funny is going on here Chris. M/T did have the ZCP. The article is still on their main page..

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It's also fitted with BMW's new Competition Package, a $2500 bundle of goodies that includes wider offset 19-inch alloy wheels, the ride height lowered by 0.4 inch, and reprogrammed Electronic Damper Control and Dynamic Stability Control settings designed to sharpen the car's dynamic responses beyond the already scalpel-like ability of the regular M3.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz0uzgtW1N1

Also, their car did 60mph in 4.1 sec and quartermi in 12.6sec.@ 113mph You'd think that was normal but you'd be wrong. Why? Look at the 0-100mph. 9.1sec?!?!! CarandD tested a DCT against a 911 and got 4.1to 60 and 9.9sec to 100mph. MotorTrend's ZCP is indeed faster than a normal M3. I know we have to account for track conditions but DAMN! Whether its the DCT update or the ZCP, I wont know for sure. I doubt you'll be able to tell the diff between 3.9 and 4.1 with your car. Sadly, I can't see any rag testing another M3 without it.

BForbes · 07-28-2010, 08:28 AM

I pulled up the last three recorded 0 to 100mph pulls of the M3 by CarandD that are non-ZCP:

10.3sec, 9.8sec(DCT), 9.8sec.

I can't believe they lopped off a second of the 0 to 100mph times. That is nuts.

Motortrend's past 0 to 100mph times:

10.1sec, 9.7sec(DCT), 10.1sec

The original car that was said to be the factory freak was this one:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...88724e04c1.pdf

0 to 60mph-4.1sec 12.5@114.8mph

ChrisK · 07-28-2010, 08:39 AM

BTW I purposely skipped the ZCP, .4" lower in Chicago is auto suicide and I wanted the forged wheels.

ChrisK · 07-28-2010, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BForbes

I pulled up the last three recorded 0 to 100mph pulls of the M3 by CarandD that are non-ZCP:

10.3sec, 9.8sec(DCT), 9.8sec.

I can't believe they lopped off a second of the 0 to 100mph times. That is nuts.

Motortrend's past 0 to 100mph times:

10.1sec, 9.7sec(DCT), 10.1sec

The original car that was said to be the factory freak was this one:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...88724e04c1.pdf

0 to 60mph-4.1sec 12.5@114.8mph

Crap that was a typo in my post. I meant to show R&T ZCP car did 4.1 and Car and Driver ZCP car did 3.9.

I'll fix it.

BForbes · 07-28-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

BTW I purposely skipped the ZCP, .4" lower in Chicago is auto suicide and I wanted the forged wheels.

Well then that makes sense then. I wouldn't have gotten either if I were u. Do you have the 0 to 100mph figures for the ZCP in the R&T tested? I'm guessing it isn't online yet.

JimmyT · 07-30-2010, 01:04 PM

SCOTT, how long will the 1M coupe be built by BMW???

PrimoM3 · 07-30-2010, 01:58 PM

SCOTT - When do you expect you'll be able to answer our questions in this post? ...know you're a busy man...

HERR FSTIR · 07-30-2010, 02:28 PM

Scott: The original teaser video was designated "part 1". Can you give us a rough idea when to expect part 2? Does it coincide with filming in Los Angeles?

LeifW · 07-30-2010, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyT

SCOTT, how long will the 1M coupe be built by BMW???

+1

Leif W.

BrokenVert · 07-30-2010, 04:33 PM

Scott what kind of guage cluster will the 1M have? The 135 is seriously under guaged. Can we see at least the addition of a boost guage and an oil pressure guage?

SCOTT26 · 08-01-2010, 04:27 PM

I will strive to answer this week,
I am currently in South Africa on location.
awaiting sunrise...

jmunro · 08-01-2010, 05:27 PM

Uh oh, time for a new nugget of info

Levi · 08-02-2010, 06:35 AM

How can I get your job Scott?

Madozu · 08-02-2010, 10:57 AM

@ SCOTT26

I'm very curious about suspension setup. Are there any adjustments that can be made from inside the car? Does is have electronic damper control (as an option)? Or is it a "standard setup" like in the E30/E36 M3's?

Will there be a way of determining the change in weight of the 1M when adding (removing) options like CF roof, different seats, different rims, etc?

Madozu · 08-15-2010, 11:47 AM

Scott, any chance that you find time soon to answer some of the questions in this thread?

07-28-2010, 08:28 AM	#535
BForbes Moderator Drives: BSM 135i/AW E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,235 iTrader: (0)	I pulled up the last three recorded 0 to 100mph pulls of the M3 by CarandD that are non-ZCP: 10.3sec, 9.8sec(DCT), 9.8sec. I can't believe they lopped off a second of the 0 to 100mph times. That is nuts. Motortrend's past 0 to 100mph times: 10.1sec, 9.7sec(DCT), 10.1sec The original car that was said to be the factory freak was this one: http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...88724e04c1.pdf 0 to 60mph-4.1sec 12.5@114.8mph __________________ - 04 Honda S2000(gone)

07-28-2010, 08:39 AM	#536
ChrisK Brigadier General Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: IL Posts: 4,632 iTrader: (4)	BTW I purposely skipped the ZCP, .4" lower in Chicago is auto suicide and I wanted the forged wheels. __________________ 2011 E92 M3: AW/BLK • DCT Europäische Lieferung am 6. August 2010

07-30-2010, 01:04 PM	#539
JimmyT Redneck Engineer Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Washington Posts: 435 iTrader: (0)	SCOTT, how long will the 1M coupe be built by BMW??? __________________

07-30-2010, 01:58 PM	#540
PrimoM3 Chemofski Drives: '13 ZCP M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Coast, U.S. Posts: 1,175 iTrader: (0)	SCOTT - When do you expect you'll be able to answer our questions in this post? ...know you're a busy man... __________________ '13 Individual Frozen Brilliant White ///M3 Coupe Ordered 2/15/12 \| Euro Delivery on 9/21/12 \| U.S. Redelivery on 12/6/12

07-30-2010, 04:33 PM	#543
BrokenVert Extremist Opinion Fighter Drives: Topless Electric Boogaloo Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fahrvergnügen Posts: 9,414 iTrader: (0)	Scott what kind of guage cluster will the 1M have? The 135 is seriously under guaged. Can we see at least the addition of a boost guage and an oil pressure guage? __________________

07-27-2010, 09:46 PM	#529
jmunro First Lieutenant Drives: 1M Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 337 iTrader: (0)	The ZCP they tested with 0-60 of 3.9 must have been a "press" car...

07-30-2010, 02:28 PM	#541
HERR FSTIR Captain Drives: VO 1M, E92 335x, E61 530x Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 669 iTrader: (0)	Scott: The original teaser video was designated "part 1". Can you give us a rough idea when to expect part 2? Does it coincide with filming in Los Angeles?

08-01-2010, 04:27 PM	#544
SCOTT26 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Amazonite Silver Beauty Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WORLDWIDE Posts: 1,964 iTrader: (0)	I will strive to answer this week, I am currently in South Africa on location. awaiting sunrise... Attached Images

08-01-2010, 05:27 PM	#545
jmunro First Lieutenant Drives: 1M Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 337 iTrader: (0)	Uh oh, time for a new nugget of info

08-02-2010, 06:35 AM	#546
Levi Colonel Drives: Alfa Romeo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,532 iTrader: (0)	How can I get your job Scott?

08-02-2010, 10:57 AM	#547
Madozu Private First Class Drives: 1M / M3 E36 3.2 6MT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: In the twisty roads of the Alps Posts: 190 iTrader: (0)	@ SCOTT26 I'm very curious about suspension setup. Are there any adjustments that can be made from inside the car? Does is have electronic damper control (as an option)? Or is it a "standard setup" like in the E30/E36 M3's? Will there be a way of determining the change in weight of the 1M when adding (removing) options like CF roof, different seats, different rims, etc?

08-15-2010, 11:47 AM	#548
Madozu Private First Class Drives: 1M / M3 E36 3.2 6MT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: In the twisty roads of the Alps Posts: 190 iTrader: (0)	Scott, any chance that you find time soon to answer some of the questions in this thread?

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