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Dak Tirque · 03-23-2010, 06:54 PM

IF ANYONE IS OPT TO REPLY, PLEASE REPLY TO THIS POST, NOT THE OTHER EIGHT! SORRY ALL!
Greetings from Long Island. I would appreciate some expert, or at least educated, opinions on a dilemma I'm having regarding my imminent purchase of a 135i. I have gone to the dealer twice already, and I am set for final negotiations this Sunday. I am ordering a black 135i with m-sport package, manual, with some bells and whistles. My vision for the car is basically ALL BLACK

. Black paint (I think that they are only offering the metallic black this year, not flat), black kidney grill, black leather...you get the picture.
My problem is that I wanted the double spoke 18" black rims (style 182), instead of the standard 18" rims that come with the m-sport package. I asked my sales consultant if I could either swap the rims ( since the car is being made from scratch to my specifications....naive perhaps to think that) or I would be glad to pay an "upcharge" for the rims I wanted.
He replied by saying, that after he talked to his higher-ups, that the best he could do would be to sell me the second set of rims (black) at a reduced price of $1200 ( the set of four costs $1600, so basically buy three, get one free. Even he didn't think that that was such a great deal, since I am custom ordering my car and the msrp will top $43K ( no, I don't plan on paying MSRP).
So, the way I see it, is:
option 1) buy additional rims and keep originals for a winter set-up.
option 2) don't order the blackies and just powder coat the M-sport rims.

Seeing as I live in NY, and the winters and winter roads tend to be shite, I am leaning towards option #1. Do you owners, who deal with mixed weather conditions, have winter set-ups?
More questions: it says on the website that M-sport package comes with "mixed performance" tires. Are these different than "performance" tires? Are "mixed performance" tires good for the winter?
Are winter tires never low profile (on 18" rims)?
Any recommendations for a winter set up?

I've read some threads on powder coating, and I'm not 100% that I want to molest the original rims.
Regardless, I am happy to become a part of this fine forum. Unfortunately, for now, I will tend to suck up info lie a vacuum. Maybe when I become more seasoned in the ways of the bimmer world, will I be able to reciprocate some street tested knowledge!

I am absolutely STOKED!!!!
Thanks for any replies.....Dak

emtrey · 03-23-2010, 07:32 PM

Go w/ option 2...

a true winter setup would be -1..( narrower tires and 17 inch wheels ). I am on 205/50-17s w/ Dunlop D3s for winter in Chicago area..they come off tomorrow.

The winter setup worked beautifully this winter.

Dak Tirque · 03-23-2010, 07:40 PM

Thanks! ANd again, SORRY FOR ALL THE REPOSTS. I have no idea whats going on with the site, but this was a BAD way to start my 1addicts forum life!

NYC6 · 03-23-2010, 08:03 PM

Maybe someone here is willing to swap with you, try posting in the sale section.

I just got my 135 only two months ago. We had two good snows in that time and I waited till the streets were clear before venturing out. I have the summer perf tires and know they will kill ya in the snow! Next season I'll get a dedicated snow tire package. I dont want to mess up my nice double spokes in the salt and sand. Tirerack has some good packages for about $1100 I think.

Dak Tirque · 03-23-2010, 08:42 PM

anything different between "performance" and "mixed performance"?
i'll keep the swap thing in mind...

emtrey · 03-23-2010, 09:25 PM

Go w/ option 2...

a true winter setup would be -1..( narrower tires and 17 inch wheels ). I am on 205/50-17s w/ Dunlop D3s for winter in Chicago area..they come off tomorrow.

The winter setup worked beautifully this winter.

emtrey · 03-23-2010, 09:27 PM

perf and mixed perf...

mixed--rear tire are different size than front (wider in back)

JLoupis · 03-23-2010, 10:22 PM

I'm in the same boat as you. I have a "11" 128 ordered with the M package. The wheels are ugly and only 17". They should let you order the car with the wheels you want.

Blader · 03-24-2010, 01:05 AM

They do just not when you have to go through BMW USA.

I ordered a 125i M Sport which comes with 17" M Sport wheels and just paid extra for the upgrade to 18" M261's.

Happens everywhere else in the world I believe

bdardashti · 03-24-2010, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blader

They do just not when you have to go through BMW USA.

And BMW Canada.

Blader · 03-24-2010, 01:43 AM

I stand corrected...... blame NAFTA

Dackelone · 03-24-2010, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dak Tirque

anything different between "performance" and "mixed performance"?
i'll keep the swap thing in mind...

In BMW speak... "mixed" means wheels of different widths. ie 7's & 8's inch widths.

Dak Tirque · 03-24-2010, 06:22 AM

thanks for the clarification on "mixed" performance. so, am i understanding this correctly, countries outside of US can order rims to their liking? i am still unsure of what to do. is there much of a market for the original m-sport double spoke rims? mabe i should just keep them as backup.... hmmmm.

emtrey · 03-24-2010, 07:08 AM

there would be a market for the M sport. see the classifieds here

Dackelone · 03-24-2010, 05:50 PM

Hi Dak Tirque,

BMW makes a catalog with MANY wheel options. I have the catolg but its in German. Its called: "Original BMW Zubehoer" or... "Orignal BMW Accesories" book# "01 212 152 040K" vb-23

BMW makes the M-double spoke #182's in BLACK! but they are not cheap! Here are the part numbers. Maybe this will help you out!

For the complete set of wheels, front and rear but without tires or wheel sensors.

BMW Black alloy wheels #182

fronts 7.5jx18 bmw# 36 11 6 786 887 325 euros each
rears 8.5jx18 bmw# 36 11 6 783 887 365 euros each

center caps bmw# 36 13 6 783 536 4 euros each

You can also buy the black alloy wheels WITH tires, mounted & TPMS complete!!

7.5jx18 & 8.5jx18 with Bridgestone runflats bmw# 36 11 0 443 020 2,650 euros

or

7.5jx18 & 8.5jx18 with Goodyear runflats bmw# 36 11 2 146 479 2,550 euros

Btw... this pamphlet also lists the silver regular 182's they are only 50 euros cheaper! lol

Hope this helps you out. Maybe your guy at the dealer can check what the Bmw NA prices are.

Bye
David

Dak Tirque · 03-24-2010, 08:00 PM

yeah, the price that they quoted me, $1200 for four wheels, were indeed the #182 double spoke black. thanks for the well thought out responses, especially Dackelone.
If I were to buy the extra set of rims, would the dealer be able to switch the tires (put em on the #182 black) and leave the originals tireless?
Perhaps a stupid question...what is TPMS? is that balancing or something to do with the run flat sensors?
EDIT: I found the TPMS is a pressure sensor...the search and site are working much better today!

wadny · 03-25-2010, 08:19 AM

Just a comment on winter tires: I'm in Buffalo, NY, where we don't get much snow, so I've been running 225/45/17 performance snows on my 2002 330i for the past 8 years. That's the standard size for the front tires with the sport package, but I run them on all four corners. Since our roads are normally plowed very quickly, I spend most of the winter on wet or occasionally slushy roads, not on deep snow. The performance snows work really well for that type of driving. I'm planning on using the same wheels and tires on my 135i, assuming they actually fit.

03-23-2010, 06:54 PM	#1
Dak Tirque Private Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 78 iTrader: (0)	IF ANYONE IS OPT TO REPLY, PLEASE REPLY TO THIS POST, NOT THE OTHER EIGHT! SORRY ALL! Greetings from Long Island. I would appreciate some expert, or at least educated, opinions on a dilemma I'm having regarding my imminent purchase of a 135i. I have gone to the dealer twice already, and I am set for final negotiations this Sunday. I am ordering a black 135i with m-sport package, manual, with some bells and whistles. My vision for the car is basically ALL BLACK. Black paint (I think that they are only offering the metallic black this year, not flat), black kidney grill, black leather...you get the picture. My problem is that I wanted the double spoke 18" black rims (style 182), instead of the standard 18" rims that come with the m-sport package. I asked my sales consultant if I could either swap the rims ( since the car is being made from scratch to my specifications....naive perhaps to think that) or I would be glad to pay an "upcharge" for the rims I wanted. He replied by saying, that after he talked to his higher-ups, that the best he could do would be to sell me the second set of rims (black) at a reduced price of $1200 ( the set of four costs $1600, so basically buy three, get one free. Even he didn't think that that was such a great deal, since I am custom ordering my car and the msrp will top $43K ( no, I don't plan on paying MSRP). So, the way I see it, is: option 1) buy additional rims and keep originals for a winter set-up. option 2) don't order the blackies and just powder coat the M-sport rims. Seeing as I live in NY, and the winters and winter roads tend to be shite, I am leaning towards option #1. Do you owners, who deal with mixed weather conditions, have winter set-ups? More questions: it says on the website that M-sport package comes with "mixed performance" tires. Are these different than "performance" tires? Are "mixed performance" tires good for the winter? Are winter tires never low profile (on 18" rims)? Any recommendations for a winter set up? I've read some threads on powder coating, and I'm not 100% that I want to molest the original rims. Regardless, I am happy to become a part of this fine forum. Unfortunately, for now, I will tend to suck up info lie a vacuum. Maybe when I become more seasoned in the ways of the bimmer world, will I be able to reciprocate some street tested knowledge! I am absolutely STOKED!!!! Thanks for any replies.....Dak Last edited by Dak Tirque; 03-23-2010 at 07:48 PM. Reason: submit post wouldn't load, but apparently did...repeatedly
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Blader 125i MSport Convertible AW,CR,M261,HK Drives: '10 BMW 125i MSport Vert Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 127 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 E88 125i [0.00]	They do just not when you have to go through BMW USA. I ordered a 125i M Sport which comes with 17" M Sport wheels and just paid extra for the upgrade to 18" M261's. Happens everywhere else in the world I believe __________________ 125i MSport Convertible \| Alpine White \| Coral Red \| M261 18" \| Debadged \| Harman Kardon \| Extended Mobile Phone Connectivity

03-24-2010, 01:43 AM	#11
Blader 125i MSport Convertible AW,CR,M261,HK Drives: '10 BMW 125i MSport Vert Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 127 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 E88 125i [0.00]	I stand corrected...... blame NAFTA __________________ 125i MSport Convertible \| Alpine White \| Coral Red \| M261 18" \| Debadged \| Harman Kardon \| Extended Mobile Phone Connectivity

03-24-2010, 08:00 PM	#16
Dak Tirque Private Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 78 iTrader: (0)	yeah, the price that they quoted me, $1200 for four wheels, were indeed the #182 double spoke black. thanks for the well thought out responses, especially Dackelone. If I were to buy the extra set of rims, would the dealer be able to switch the tires (put em on the #182 black) and leave the originals tireless? Perhaps a stupid question...what is TPMS? is that balancing or something to do with the run flat sensors? EDIT: I found the TPMS is a pressure sensor...the search and site are working much better today! Last edited by Dak Tirque; 03-24-2010 at 08:11 PM.

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03-23-2010, 07:32 PM	#2
emtrey Captain Drives: 13 335 AW sport 06 Carrera S Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 628 iTrader: (0)	Go w/ option 2... a true winter setup would be -1..( narrower tires and 17 inch wheels ). I am on 205/50-17s w/ Dunlop D3s for winter in Chicago area..they come off tomorrow. The winter setup worked beautifully this winter.

03-23-2010, 07:40 PM	#3
Dak Tirque Private Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 78 iTrader: (0)	Thanks! ANd again, SORRY FOR ALL THE REPOSTS. I have no idea whats going on with the site, but this was a BAD way to start my 1addicts forum life!

03-23-2010, 08:03 PM	#4
NYC6 Banned Drives: '10 135i PPKI/06 C6 Z51 Vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: LI/NY Posts: 2,080 iTrader: (0)	Maybe someone here is willing to swap with you, try posting in the sale section. I just got my 135 only two months ago. We had two good snows in that time and I waited till the streets were clear before venturing out. I have the summer perf tires and know they will kill ya in the snow! Next season I'll get a dedicated snow tire package. I dont want to mess up my nice double spokes in the salt and sand. Tirerack has some good packages for about $1100 I think.

03-23-2010, 08:42 PM	#5
Dak Tirque Private Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 78 iTrader: (0)	anything different between "performance" and "mixed performance"? i'll keep the swap thing in mind...

03-23-2010, 09:25 PM	#6
emtrey Captain Drives: 13 335 AW sport 06 Carrera S Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 628 iTrader: (0)	Go w/ option 2... a true winter setup would be -1..( narrower tires and 17 inch wheels ). I am on 205/50-17s w/ Dunlop D3s for winter in Chicago area..they come off tomorrow. The winter setup worked beautifully this winter.

03-23-2010, 09:27 PM	#7
emtrey Captain Drives: 13 335 AW sport 06 Carrera S Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 628 iTrader: (0)	perf and mixed perf... mixed--rear tire are different size than front (wider in back)

03-23-2010, 10:22 PM	#8
JLoupis Private Drives: 128i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lebanon NH Posts: 51 iTrader: (0)	I'm in the same boat as you. I have a "11" 128 ordered with the M package. The wheels are ugly and only 17". They should let you order the car with the wheels you want.

03-24-2010, 06:22 AM	#13
Dak Tirque Private Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 78 iTrader: (0)	thanks for the clarification on "mixed" performance. so, am i understanding this correctly, countries outside of US can order rims to their liking? i am still unsure of what to do. is there much of a market for the original m-sport double spoke rims? mabe i should just keep them as backup.... hmmmm.

03-24-2010, 07:08 AM	#14
emtrey Captain Drives: 13 335 AW sport 06 Carrera S Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 628 iTrader: (0)	there would be a market for the M sport. see the classifieds here

03-24-2010, 05:50 PM	#15
Dackelone Moderator Drives: 135i Silber mit/Rot 6MT N54 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany Posts: 13,042 iTrader: (0)	Hi Dak Tirque, BMW makes a catalog with MANY wheel options. I have the catolg but its in German. Its called: "Original BMW Zubehoer" or... "Orignal BMW Accesories" book# "01 212 152 040K" vb-23 BMW makes the M-double spoke #182's in BLACK! but they are not cheap! Here are the part numbers. Maybe this will help you out! For the complete set of wheels, front and rear but without tires or wheel sensors. BMW Black alloy wheels #182 fronts 7.5jx18 bmw# 36 11 6 786 887 325 euros each rears 8.5jx18 bmw# 36 11 6 783 887 365 euros each center caps bmw# 36 13 6 783 536 4 euros each You can also buy the black alloy wheels WITH tires, mounted & TPMS complete!! 7.5jx18 & 8.5jx18 with Bridgestone runflats bmw# 36 11 0 443 020 2,650 euros or 7.5jx18 & 8.5jx18 with Goodyear runflats bmw# 36 11 2 146 479 2,550 euros Btw... this pamphlet also lists the silver regular 182's they are only 50 euros cheaper! lol Hope this helps you out. Maybe your guy at the dealer can check what the Bmw NA prices are. Bye David

03-25-2010, 08:19 AM	#17
wadny Private Drives: 2011 135i, M-Sport, 6MT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North Tonawanda, NY Posts: 61 iTrader: (0)	Just a comment on winter tires: I'm in Buffalo, NY, where we don't get much snow, so I've been running 225/45/17 performance snows on my 2002 330i for the past 8 years. That's the standard size for the front tires with the sport package, but I run them on all four corners. Since our roads are normally plowed very quickly, I spend most of the winter on wet or occasionally slushy roads, not on deep snow. The performance snows work really well for that type of driving. I'm planning on using the same wheels and tires on my 135i, assuming they actually fit.