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      04-12-2010, 07:42 PM   #1
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AutoBild speculates on six future 1-series variants

Hi Guys,

In this week’s issue of AutoBild they have an interesting articleon the new 1-er’s coming our way. I posted the pictures bellow my post.

The biggest news - I think is a new SportsVan based on the ONE. The magazine says it might be FWD or even AWD.


Some highlights:

2011 - three door, RWD
2011 – five door, RWD
2012 – coupe, RWD
2012 – Cabriolet, RWD
2013 – Sports Van, FWD or AWD
2013 – GT, FWD or AWD

1-er engines: all direct injection!



Gasoline engines

116i – 1.6L Turbo, 136 PS
118I –1.6L Turbo, 156 PS
120i – 2.0L, 177 PS (NA)
125i – 2.0 Turbo, 218 PS


Diesel engines

116d – 2.0 Turbo, 122 PS
118d – 2.0 Turbo, 150 PS
123d – 2.0 Bi-Turbo 204 PS


One interesting point they say is that the top performance models (ie: 135i) will always remain RWD!



MINI’s
The magazine also states that the new Mini will have some three cylinder engines coming out. 1.2L to 1.5L engines (100 PS to 184 PS). The top Mini engine will be a John Cooper Works 2.0L turbo 220 PS to 250 PS versions.


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Here is an interesting arguement!

RWD vs FWD = guess which one wins? RWD!


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      04-12-2010, 10:03 PM   #2
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Great find!

I think the 2012 Coupe looks very Z8-inspired....but in a good way.
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      04-12-2010, 10:22 PM   #3
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Althought many wont share my taste, i would love to see the 2012 coupe look like the one in the picture. I think it would be one hell of an evil looking 1er.
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      04-12-2010, 10:33 PM   #4
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I kinda dig that GT!
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def. interested in a future 1er GT model
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      04-12-2010, 10:42 PM   #6
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Neat concept, but probably will look nothing like those renderings.
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      04-13-2010, 10:59 AM   #7
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I'd like that GT if it was RWD!
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      04-13-2010, 01:32 PM   #8
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direct injection ftl
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      04-13-2010, 01:53 PM   #9
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The 1 series sports van looks like an EVO X

the 2012 coupe 1 series looks like a mustang GT

the 2012 cabrio looks like a mac truck

the 2013 looks ok
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      04-13-2010, 02:36 PM   #10
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nice article, good find
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I like the 2011 hatchback, be nice if they brought those to the states. Why would they test a non-sport packaged 135i against a Focus RS? You would think they would have found one with a sport option. Who knows, maybe it whooped its ass--sorry don't sprechen Sie.
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      04-13-2010, 03:44 PM   #12
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That's an interesting article below the 1er stuff where they put common (mis)conceptions to the test: light vs. powerful, old vs. new of the same model (everything was better in the good old days argument), no substitute for displacement, fwd vs. rwd, manual vs. automatic, etc.
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      04-13-2010, 03:57 PM   #13
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Great Find David, and thanks for posting!

Quote:
Der 1er als funfturer
What will they do when the 1er gets as big as today's 3?

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Great Find David, and thanks for posting!



What will they do when the 1er gets as big as today's 3?

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Bmw will then release the Zero Series! No Joke!!!

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Doesnt make any sense why would some cars be fwd while some rwd on the same platform...?
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Doesnt make any sense why would some cars be fwd while some rwd on the same platform...?
bc of the high HP! Bmw has said in interviews that the top sport model 1-er will remain RWD. That means the 135i & M1. Probably the 128i too. The AutoBild article said that the 135i will remain RWD for sporting reasons.

But for the rest of the 2nd gen 1-ers... they will probably go with FWD or even an AWD setup(so the article said).

Look... when these new 2nd gen 1-er's come out... BMW will be making what four or five Mini lines. All FWD. And I think it makes sense that BMW would want to share some of the costs(engines) - spread over several model line up.

I think one must remember too that the sole reason BMW came up with the one series cars was to sell more 4 cylinder cars! So that they could get a tax break on the up coming EU laws for corperate CO2 levels.
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bc of the high HP! Bmw has said in interviews that the top sport model 1-er will remain RWD. That means the 135i & M1. Probably the 128i too. The AutoBild article said that the 135i will remain RWD for sporting reasons.

But for the rest of the 2nd gen 1-ers... they will probably go with FWD or even an AWD setup(so the article said).

Look... when these new 2nd gen 1-er's come out... BMW will be making what four or five Mini lines. All FWD. And I think it makes sense that BMW would want to share some of the costs(engines) - spread over several model line up.

I think one must remember too that the sole reason BMW came up with the one series cars was to sell more 4 cylinder cars! So that they could get a tax break on the up coming EU laws for corperate CO2 levels.
I understand but it will increase the cost etc...
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Neat concept, but probably will look nothing like those renderings.
I hope so.....
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The little 1 variant would be cool. would only choose the RWD
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that GT is sick but these renderings of the near future are rarely even close, or atleast i havent seen one be close
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I don't see a sedan in that list. There has been a fair amount of speculation about a sedan version of the F2x 3 series . I think it is a good bet that we'll see one in North America. Certainly a sedan would be the volume seller here in N/A if it existed.

As for the engines, I think that N/A 2L is not likely to last long, if it exists to begin with at all.
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The Sportsvan.... NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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