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      05-10-2010, 11:08 AM   #89
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Here is Scott's list:

* More muscular appearance than standard 1-series
* Trapezoid grille flanked by two intakes to allow extra brake cooling
* Six piston brakes
* High performance intercooler
* Sportier looking headlights than standard 1-series
* Small lip spoilers above brake duct inlets to provide extra air flow and downforce
* The front wings of the car are massaged slightly to accomodate the wider track. Rear end is also wider.
* Standard 18" 5-spoke wheels with optional 18" Competition wheels (18" will be the optimium wheel size for the M1)
* Signature M side vent
* Broader wheel arches to accomodate larger track
* "Ducktail" CSL style rear trunk (integrated spoiler)
* Rear valance/diffuser area takes its direction from the standard 135i but with open ducts for aerodynamic purpose
* Signature M quad exhaust pipes
* Reinforced carbon fiber roof
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      05-10-2010, 11:15 AM   #90
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I've been informed that BMW M will only produce around 2,500 cras world wide, and production will start in Mar/Apr 2011. And there is a big possibility that they might offer it in 6-Speed manual transmision only!!
Who else wants to camp out at the Welt with me?
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      05-10-2010, 11:28 AM   #91
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Here is Scott's list:

* More muscular appearance than standard 1-series
* Trapezoid grille flanked by two intakes to allow extra brake cooling
* Six piston brakes
* High performance intercooler
* Sportier looking headlights than standard 1-series
* Small lip spoilers above brake duct inlets to provide extra air flow and downforce
* The front wings of the car are massaged slightly to accomodate the wider track. Rear end is also wider.
* Standard 18" 5-spoke wheels with optional 18" Competition wheels (18" will be the optimium wheel size for the M1)
* Signature M side vent
* Broader wheel arches to accomodate larger track
* "Ducktail" CSL style rear trunk (integrated spoiler)
* Rear valance/diffuser area takes its direction from the standard 135i but with open ducts for aerodynamic purpose
* Signature M quad exhaust pipes
* Reinforced carbon fiber roof

I'm assuming the 5 spoke wheel is the one from the Standard 135i, and the competition would be the famous CSL multispoke
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      05-10-2010, 11:29 AM   #92
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Haha haven't camped out for anything in a long while...I like it!

Can't wait to see the cab version
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      05-10-2010, 11:39 AM   #93
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The test mule wheels look like 359M wheels that are available on the M3 as part of the Competition Pkg. ..but I believe those are 19's.

Scott called them 18" Competition wheels. Maybe 18" 359M's??
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      05-10-2010, 11:40 AM   #94
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One more thing to replace is the exhaust typical M little tips hopefully the aftermarket will make some nice exhaust systems.
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I've heard similar from a few different sources as well. I have an issue with that though. Scott talks about a convertible. Why would they go through the trouble? Also, why produce so little? It must REALLY be that badass. Its almost as if they're afraid of something. I really hope it has a two year run like the Z4M. That seems a bit more acceptable in my book. Hopefully the demand will make them squeeze another year out of it.
There were no plans for an M version of the current E82/88 1 series, but thanks to the new BMW M CEO. Dr. Segler had different plans, he wanted to offer BMW M enthusiasts and potentail customers an affordable entry level M car and pushed for it to be produced within the E82/88 production cycle. Production will strat from Mar/Apr 2011 until the end of 2012. Maybe that's why they will only produce around 2,500 cars world wide?

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Scott said 6MT and DCT - but who knows.
They are testing both now, the 6-Speed manual and the 7-Speed DCT, but they "might" only offer it in 6-Speed. Nothing is confirmed or official yet. My source could be wrong though! Hope Scott can clarify all of this?
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I remember now. Scott said something about a "sportier Headlight"
Actually what I said was that the additional sculpture underneath the headlights and the reprofiling of the front bumper to accomodate the changes for the aerodynamics package adds a more dynamic look to the front of the car.

As I said previously M cars test in phases , again here you are looking at the next phase , though still there are details still missing and not relevant to the testing programme yet .
That day is still to come...
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I'm assuming the 5 spoke wheel is the one from the Standard 135i, and the competition would be the famous CSL multispoke
I seriously doubt they would rehash an old design for the M1.

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Scott said 6MT and DCT - but who knows.
The video where the guy stalls the M1 in the parking lot is clearly a DCT. Look closely at his hands, they never reach down for the shift knob as the car shifts.
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JOY IS...INDULGENCE!



Actually what I said was that the additional sculpture underneath the headlights and the reprofiling of the front bumper to accomodate the changes for the aerodynamics package adds a more dynamic look to the front of the car.

As I said previously M cars test in phases , again here you are looking at the next phase , though still there are details still missing and not relevant to the testing programme yet .
That day is still to come...
Exactly!! The headlight stays the same folks. Its the surroundings that give it a slightly different effect. Same deal happened with the M3.
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      05-10-2010, 12:00 PM   #99
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Price?!

Based on the information below from BMW's website, I've created a ball park price for the new "M1"... -drumroll-.........

$43,980 (22% increase) - $45,780 (27% price increase)

Personally, I think this makes perfect sense. More than a 335i, since it is an "M", but 10k below the M3 price. Thoughts?!?


Below is the information I used to calculate the estimate price.

BMW 135i - 36,050
BMW "M1" - ??????

BMW 335i Sedan - 40,600
BMW M3 Sedan - 55,400
= 26.8% price increase


BMW 335i Coupe - 42,650
BMW M3 Coupe - 58,400
= 27% price increase

BMW 335i Convert - 51,200
BMW M3 Convert - 67,050
= 25.7% price increase

BMW 550i = 59,700
BMW M5 = 85,700
= 30.4% price increase

BMW 650i Coupe = 78,450
BMW M6 Coupe = 102,350
= 25.6% price increase

BMW 650i Convert = 85,550
BMW M6 Convert - 108,150
= 21.9% price increase
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Guess ive been proven wrong about the quads but being wrong has never been sweeter lol

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      05-10-2010, 12:08 PM   #101
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Cant wait for the next phase
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It is good that it gets a quad exhaust, but I think the debate of 135 vs. M1 shall continue, as it should.
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      05-10-2010, 12:09 PM   #103
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Huh?

VintageBMW: Wish the car was lighter.
Me: Well this isn't a pure performance brand.
You: BTW, M3 Sedan is best performance sedan say the experts.

WTF does that have to do with anything here???? Yes, M3 sedan is a great performance sedan, but it is also a porky pig with supple leather seats, so it is not a pure performance car....
Sorry man, my douchie roommate jumped on my computer and posted that. He has a M3 so he thought you were bashing BMW. No idea why. I need to lock my Mac more often!
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Actually what I said was that the additional sculpture underneath the headlights and the reprofiling of the front bumper to accomodate the changes for the aerodynamics package adds a more dynamic look to the front of the car.

As I said previously M cars test in phases , again here you are looking at the next phase , though still there are details still missing and not relevant to the testing programme yet .
That day is still to come...
Scott, is DCT coming?
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Maybe it will be called the 'M' instead of M1. I know probably not, just wanted to throw it out there.
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isn't the 1-series been out for a good while now? BMW should update the styling first before they bring the M1 out for the market. it already took them a long time to build it. i'd hate the current style only last a year or 2 max.
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isn't the 1-series been out for a good while now? BMW should update the styling first before they bring the M1 out for the market. it already took them a long time to build it. i'd hate the current style only last a year or 2 max.
The first model year for the coupe is 2008. It is now 2010. I dont see a problem. The M1/1M will differ enough once all the tape is off.
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Amen. I'm a believer!
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Where the hell do those pipes go? The arrangment seems funny to me, the left set almost look like they go underneath the suspension bits, yet the right ones look as though they disappear above the suspension components. Can someone identify the layout properly, Is this normal? I have to confess I'm not familiar with the gubbins under the back of the M3 either! At the moment I'd call it a very convincing "bad" photoshop?
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maybe you are correct but I love the M heritage; it is just a little ironic that we all want this car to be lighter but yet most of us want quad exhaust ????? I agree that it looks cool but I would prefer some more weight loss obsession
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