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ATR1 · 06-11-2010, 12:42 PM

New information released on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's website shows that BMW is recalling all 1 Series models sold in the U.S. between 2008 and 2010 for a potential fire risk.

According to the manufacturer, cars built between December 1, 2007, and May 27, 2010, may not have sufficient clearance between the seatbelt tensioners and the sound insulation in the B-pillars. Should a crash occur, the tensioners could overheat. In rare instances, the excess temperature could possibly ignite the insulation material.

BMW has not yet released a fix for the issue, but has notified NHTSA of the recall and halted sales of all 1 Series models until it rectifies the design issue. BMW will notify owners of the recall shortly and provide updated information to NHTSA when it has a fix. For more information, contact your local BMW dealership.

Source: NHTSA

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/car...-1-series.html

fwmcb · 06-11-2010, 01:18 PM

not too bad, at least it doesn't cause spontaneous acceleration.

TMR013 · 06-11-2010, 01:21 PM

Well, so it seems that BMW is joining the never ending litany of safety recalls.

Are we making more unsafe cars? Or is everybody so afraid of lawsuits we are hyper sensitive?

oasis3582 · 06-11-2010, 01:32 PM

I was hoping it would be for HPFP.

tritonx · 06-11-2010, 01:36 PM

I'm just wondering, how the hell to they determine that,
"The affected vehicles have insufficient clearance between the seat belt tensioners in the B-pillar and the insulating material surrounding it. In the event of a crash, the insulation could become overheated and catch fire."
The insulation would be in contact with the exhaust or something real hot?

I'm probably affected by this recall, it sucks. I don't want another Mazda loaner

, I'd rather if they pay the taxi and drive my 92' 325 in the meanwhile.

mousitch · 06-11-2010, 01:51 PM

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6657...tter%2BTraffic

Who knew these thing were cookers?

roundel · 06-11-2010, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oasis3582

I was hoping it would be for HPFP.

There is no solution for HPFP. Move on.

second_2_nun · 06-11-2010, 01:58 PM

well that fucken sucks cause I have a 1er!

twoturboz · 06-11-2010, 02:01 PM

Fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu

They've got about 1 million cars to recall. shit

Evice · 06-11-2010, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by second_2_nun

well that fucken sucks cause I have a 1er!

That's life. Get over it. go get it fixed.

Project1 · 06-11-2010, 02:12 PM

Sweet, guess I will be getting a loaner...

twoturboz · 06-11-2010, 02:22 PM

FFFFUUUUUU last time i got a base Camry. FML.
and I just intalled my DCI. pain in the ass.

actually, they shouldn't have to open up the hood right?.... well they'll probably hear anyways. But since it's not a warranty related issue they can't really do anything correct?

ragingclue · 06-11-2010, 02:22 PM

Wonder how they found this out....

Red Bread · 06-11-2010, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoturboz

Fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu

They've got about 1 million cars to recall. shit

Divided by about 100, yeah.

LJKelley · 06-11-2010, 02:37 PM

I just called BMW and there is no recall on my Oct 2009 built 1 series. Hmmm...

alexckma · 06-11-2010, 02:37 PM

mmm, guess sticking with the 3 series was a good idea after all, although I want a smaller car next... so I am anticipating a 1 series soon...

good luck with the recalls and keep us updated for those of you who are getting it fixed

KingOfJericho · 06-11-2010, 02:39 PM

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

LJKelley · 06-11-2010, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexckma

mmm, guess sticking with the 3 series was a good idea after all, although I want a smaller car next... so I am anticipating a 1 series soon...

good luck with the recalls and keep us updated for those of you who are getting it fixed

It would be a freak accident anyways. You would have to first have a crash or sudden stop and the seat belt would have to rub just the right way for the insulation to get hot enough to catch fire.

It is good that BMW is fixing this, but it is not a big deal.

ianc · 06-11-2010, 02:44 PM

Quote:

cars built between December 1, 2007, and May 27, 2010

How do you determine the date your car was built? The sticker on the door jamb only gives the month?

ianc

roundel · 06-11-2010, 02:46 PM

That's a sweet-looking 1 in the recall photo. Is that Crimson Red?

Feyd · 06-11-2010, 02:49 PM

While i understand the concept of how this would work, I just don't see how it's possible for it to get that hot before the seatbelt locks..

*shrug*

Mark M · 06-11-2010, 02:56 PM

Today's modern seatbelt tensioners have 'controlled explosives' at the base of the mechanism.

In an accident there is a mini explosion in the seatbelt mechanism designed to cinch the belt as tight as possible on you. If there is an explosion...there is a chance of fire.

Courtesy of tireone.com

"Pyrotechnic pretensioners use electrically triggered pyrotechnics that tighten the seatbelt a prescribed amount upon sensing a crash event. These devices can operate on either the buckle or ratchet side of the seatbelt mechanism. These are the most highly technical type of pretensioner, and also the most expensive. These will be the focus of this report. "

06-11-2010, 12:42 PM	#1
ATR1 Enlisted Member Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: OH Posts: 40 iTrader: (0)	BMW issues recall for all 1-series sold between 2008 and 2010 for potential fire risk New information released on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's website shows that BMW is recalling all 1 Series models sold in the U.S. between 2008 and 2010 for a potential fire risk. According to the manufacturer, cars built between December 1, 2007, and May 27, 2010, may not have sufficient clearance between the seatbelt tensioners and the sound insulation in the B-pillars. Should a crash occur, the tensioners could overheat. In rare instances, the excess temperature could possibly ignite the insulation material. BMW has not yet released a fix for the issue, but has notified NHTSA of the recall and halted sales of all 1 Series models until it rectifies the design issue. BMW will notify owners of the recall shortly and provide updated information to NHTSA when it has a fix. For more information, contact your local BMW dealership. Source: NHTSA http://blogs.consumerreports.org/car...-1-series.html
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06-11-2010, 01:21 PM	#3
TMR013 Opus Angelus Drives: '09 Monaco Blue 135i coupe Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 976 iTrader: (0)	Well, so it seems that BMW is joining the never ending litany of safety recalls. Are we making more unsafe cars? Or is everybody so afraid of lawsuits we are hyper sensitive? __________________ Last edited by TMR013; 06-11-2010 at 01:31 PM.

06-11-2010, 01:32 PM	#4
oasis3582 Lieutenant Drives: 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 477 iTrader: (0)	I was hoping it would be for HPFP. __________________ Current: BMW 135i cpe BSM / blk/gray / sport / prem / ipod Previous: 2008 Honda Accord Coupe, 2007 Acura RDX, 2005 Pontiac GTO, 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP

06-11-2010, 01:51 PM	#6
mousitch Dark Sider Drives: 2008 Space Gray Z4MC Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,669 iTrader: (11) Garage List 2008 Z4M Coupe [0.00] 2006 Z4M roadster [0.00] 2005 BMW 2.5 Z4 [0.00]	BMW halts sales of 1-series.Cites fire safety http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6657...tter%2BTraffic Who knew these thing were cookers? __________________ 2008 Space Grey M Coupe-RPI Scoop-Gruppe M CAI-Eisenmann Race Cans-RE X-pipe-ECU Remap-H&R Sport springs-Zeck CDV-Stock Gloss black powder coated wheels-LED Tekarbon Angel Eyes Project-Michelin Super Sports-Hardwired Escort 9500ix-BMW CCA Member-ST Louis Chapter

06-11-2010, 02:01 PM	#9
twoturboz Captain Drives: fast Join Date: May 2010 Location: CA Posts: 739 iTrader: (0)	Fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu They've got about 1 million cars to recall. shit __________________

06-11-2010, 01:18 PM	#2
fwmcb Major Drives: 2013 X3 28i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NB Posts: 1,087 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 128i [0.00]	not too bad, at least it doesn't cause spontaneous acceleration.

06-11-2010, 01:36 PM	#5
tritonx Second Lieutenant Drives: '11 128i, '92 325is Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Quebec, Qc, Canada Posts: 224 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 128i [0.00] 1992 325is [0.00] 1994 318is [0.00]	I'm just wondering, how the hell to they determine that, "The affected vehicles have insufficient clearance between the seat belt tensioners in the B-pillar and the insulating material surrounding it. In the event of a crash, the insulation could become overheated and catch fire." The insulation would be in contact with the exhaust or something real hot? I'm probably affected by this recall, it sucks. I don't want another Mazda loaner , I'd rather if they pay the taxi and drive my 92' 325 in the meanwhile.

06-11-2010, 01:58 PM	#8
second_2_nun MMA Changed My Life! Drives: Fine Tuned e92 & 2010 e82 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: so cal Posts: 5,781 iTrader: (42) Garage List 2008 e92 [0.00] "2006 sport bi ... [0.00] 2008 e92 [0.00] 2008 e92 coupe [0.00]	well that fucken sucks cause I have a 1er!

06-11-2010, 02:12 PM	#11
Project1 Bimmer Love Drives: You will figure it out... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Broadway, NC Posts: 363 iTrader: (2)	Sweet, guess I will be getting a loaner...

06-11-2010, 02:22 PM	#12
twoturboz Captain Drives: fast Join Date: May 2010 Location: CA Posts: 739 iTrader: (0)	FFFFUUUUUU last time i got a base Camry. FML. and I just intalled my DCI. pain in the ass. actually, they shouldn't have to open up the hood right?.... well they'll probably hear anyways. But since it's not a warranty related issue they can't really do anything correct? __________________

06-11-2010, 02:22 PM	#13
ragingclue My interior is turrible Drives: stickferanaxle Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: mulletville Posts: 6,667 iTrader: (1)	Wonder how they found this out....

06-11-2010, 02:37 PM	#15
LJKelley Private Drives: Black 2011 128i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 56 iTrader: (0)	I just called BMW and there is no recall on my Oct 2009 built 1 series. Hmmm... __________________ 2011 BMW 128i Black with Red Coral interior & Grey Poplar Wood Trim 2011 BMW 328xi Silver with Black interior and Dark Walnut Wood Trim

06-11-2010, 02:37 PM	#16
alexckma Lieutenant Drives: P. Panorama 10, L Gallardo 05 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hong Kong, Canada Posts: 516 iTrader: (0)	mmm, guess sticking with the 3 series was a good idea after all, although I want a smaller car next... so I am anticipating a 1 series soon... good luck with the recalls and keep us updated for those of you who are getting it fixed

06-11-2010, 02:39 PM	#17
KingOfJericho Brigadier General Drives: Yes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT Posts: 4,281 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 135i Coupe [4.50]	Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah __________________ The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost. 2010 S4 Current \| 2010 BMW 135i GONE \| 2008 VW GTI SOLD \| 2006 Lotus Exige SOLD

06-11-2010, 02:46 PM	#20
roundel Private Drives: 2011 Black 5.0 6M Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Burning Out Posts: 90 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 5.0 [0.00]	That's a sweet-looking 1 in the recall photo. Is that Crimson Red?

06-11-2010, 02:49 PM	#21
Feyd Major Drives: a DEEZZULL Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,239 iTrader: (2)	While i understand the concept of how this would work, I just don't see how it's possible for it to get that hot before the seatbelt locks.. shrug

06-11-2010, 02:56 PM	#22
Mark M Captain Drives: E30M3 E83X3 E90335D Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 639 iTrader: (0)	Today's modern seatbelt tensioners have 'controlled explosives' at the base of the mechanism. In an accident there is a mini explosion in the seatbelt mechanism designed to cinch the belt as tight as possible on you. If there is an explosion...there is a chance of fire. Courtesy of tireone.com "Pyrotechnic pretensioners use electrically triggered pyrotechnics that tighten the seatbelt a prescribed amount upon sensing a crash event. These devices can operate on either the buckle or ratchet side of the seatbelt mechanism. These are the most highly technical type of pretensioner, and also the most expensive. These will be the focus of this report. "

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