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oman135 · 08-30-2010, 10:56 AM

if the 1M is 350 hp am keeping my 135i a tune and full exhaust and my 135i will be more then 350 whp !

SlicktopTTZ · 08-30-2010, 10:57 AM

Or two larger turbos with better exhaust manifolds? (although "log" manifolds often spool quicker than tubular, with reduced top-end performance)

Also, more aggressive camshafts would be a MAJOR plus!

I'm excited.

twenzel · 08-30-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by oman135

if the 1M is 350 hp am keeping my 135i a tune and full exhaust and my 135i will be more then 350 whp !

Still blows my mind that people judge and base a whole car on its peak HP number.

eugegall · 08-30-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oman135

if the 1M is 350 hp am keeping my 135i a tune and full exhaust and my 135i will be more then 350 whp !

But then you wouldnt have the best one. You will always say. Its the 135i. The one below the 1M

niuniu · 08-30-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by twenzel

Still blows my mind that people judge and base a whole car on its peak HP number.

Exactly, the Cayman S has 320 bhp and it's a phenomenal sports car. Cars do not need 300bhp to be great - too many ricer magazines and garage project features have distorted reality.

Smokey · 08-30-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by oman135

if the 1M is 350 hp am keeping my 135i a tune and full exhaust and my 135i will be more then 350 whp !

And when 1M owners tune theirs, they will still have more hp, but Ms are more than just hp as stated above

Mu Mu · 08-30-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokey

And when 1M owners tune theirs, they will still have more hp, but Ms are more than just hp as stated above

Dang! U beat me to it!

new2the3 · 08-30-2010, 11:56 AM

I won't be in the market for this car, keeping my 135i for 10 years but I will be looking to retrofit as many parts as possible. (LSD,Suspension)

dlbrooks18 · 08-30-2010, 12:06 PM

so does this N54 based engine have larger turbo's?

FrenchBoy · 08-30-2010, 12:10 PM

Kind of a funny question. Does anyone know what shoes is Dr. Kay Segler wearing on the photo below. They look like fairly nice driving shoes...

135forthewin · 08-30-2010, 12:26 PM

Can someone read what size tires are on the car? I'm quite curious...

M3roar · 08-30-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 135forthewin

Can someone read what size tires are on the car? I'm quite curious...

BF said it was 245/35/19 f and 265/35/19 r.

Madozu · 08-30-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by M3roar

BF said it was 245/35/19 f and 265/35/19 r.

On some of the Bimmerfile pictures the mentioned tire-size can be spotted ... but no indication whether rims and tires are standard or part of an option pack.

mcacciola · 08-30-2010, 12:37 PM

is this car officially call 1M?

Why is not an M1 ????

Madozu · 08-30-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mcacciola

is this car officially call 1M?

Why is not an M1 ????

Because of this car ^^

Haywood · 08-30-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mcacciola

is this car officially call 1M?

Why is not an M1 ????

Seriously? Wow, you have a lot of reading to do!

SlicktopTTZ · 08-30-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by twenzel

Still blows my mind that people judge and base a whole car on its peak HP number.

You have to remember, people have to be excited when they drive in order to justify a sport cars purchase. (well, at least for me)

One MAJOR factor of the excitement level is the power the car produces, and how it produces it.

People coming from a RX-8 will think this thing is FAST.

People coming from a C6 Z06 will think this thing is SLOW.

And, if it comes out right, people from any car that really do sport driving will think the car handles and feels GREAT!

I'm sure if the M3 came with only 200 rated horsepower the sales volume would not be nearly as high. Basically people would see 200hp/3700lbs and instantly decide it was not powerful enough based on that one number, like you were saying.

formula M · 08-30-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by formula M

Front = 245/35 R19's
Rear = 265/35 R19's

Discuss...

The rims are part of the upgrade options, as mentioned elsewhere.

Muffnbluff · 08-30-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Valvetronic was the main cause of the time delay but BMW have spent some time on this and are using the N55 as a basis for the next M3.

There is a lot of this car that will carry over for the next generation 1M in which that car will switch to four cylinders to which the M Division engineers are already working on the basics without time constraints or restrictions.
1M (E82) is showing what is possible in a small timeframe 1M (F22) will show what is possible once you do not have restrictions.

I hope the N55 is merely a rough starting point for the next M3 engine. I think for the M3 people will want complete exclusivity on what the M3 engine is capable of over the 335.

Will the 4-banger be somewhat derived from the N55? I'm guessing a 2L with a single twin scroll turbo is in the works.

M3roar · 08-30-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ

You have to remember, people have to be excited when they drive in order to justify a sport cars purchase. (well, at least for me)

One MAJOR factor of the excitement level is the power the car produces, and how it produces it.

People coming from a RX-8 will think this thing is FAST.

People coming from a C6 Z06 will think this thing is SLOW.

And, if it comes out right, people from any car that really do sport driving will think the car handles and feels GREAT!

Im gonna be coming from a e92 M3 killing Twinscrewed e36 M3. And I think refinement is really what I want. A fast, fun car for sure. But something that feels smooth yet planted. Something you can daily but feel totally confident at the light next to the SS or at the autocross. I drove a friends e90 m3 recently and I just enjoyed the refinement. Its got power but that didnt impress me as much as its driving dynamics.

dmboone25 · 08-30-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokey

And when 1M owners tune theirs, they will still have more hp, but Ms are more than just hp as stated above

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Originally Posted by Mu Mu

Dang! U beat me to it!

I am willing to bet that this version of the N54 will NOT be very tuner friendly.

I would assume that BMW is making sure of that....

M3_WC · 08-30-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Guy

I am assuming the reasoning behind it is if thek M3 drops and engine size so does the 1M? Not looking forward to a turbo'd 4 cylinder by any means.

I wish they would do the turbo 4 with this 1M.

Turbo 4 is the proper way to do this car.

08-30-2010, 10:56 AM	#551
oman135 Major Drives: 2011 135I M DCT Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Oman-Muscat Posts: 1,020 iTrader: (0)	if the 1M is 350 hp am keeping my 135i a tune and full exhaust and my 135i will be more then 350 whp ! __________________ Bmw Performance Grills - CF Trunk Spoiler - CF Mirrors- MadDad EuroSport Street Axleback - Scopione CF Diffuser - LCI Tail Lights - SleK CF Front Lip

08-30-2010, 11:56 AM	#558
new2the3 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,632 iTrader: (0)	I won't be in the market for this car, keeping my 135i for 10 years but I will be looking to retrofit as many parts as possible. (LSD,Suspension) __________________ 2009 135i: AW/CR Aluminum Trim, 6 speed, M-Sport, Premium, Heated Seats, Ipod, BMW Performance Pedals, BMW Performance SSK, BMW Performance Exhaust, BMW Performance Grills E93 M3 FSB

08-30-2010, 12:06 PM	#559
dlbrooks18 Brigadier General Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,186 iTrader: (2)	so does this N54 based engine have larger turbo's? __________________ 2008 E90 335

08-30-2010, 12:10 PM	#560
FrenchBoy onehotlap.com contributor Drives: '09 E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,323 iTrader: (0)	Kind of a funny question. Does anyone know what shoes is Dr. Kay Segler wearing on the photo below. They look like fairly nice driving shoes... __________________ 2009 E90 M3 \| SG \| FR \| 6Speed \| Akrapovic Evo \| JRZ RS1 \| StopTech Trophy \| Cantrell Brake Ducts

08-30-2010, 12:26 PM	#561
135forthewin Lieutenant Drives: sideways Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: U.S. Posts: 544 iTrader: (0)	Can someone read what size tires are on the car? I'm quite curious... __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(1addicts.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.

08-30-2010, 10:57 AM	#552
SlicktopTTZ Captain Drives: 91 300ZX Twin-Turbo, 2010 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 686 iTrader: (0)	Or two larger turbos with better exhaust manifolds? (although "log" manifolds often spool quicker than tubular, with reduced top-end performance) Also, more aggressive camshafts would be a MAJOR plus! I'm excited.

08-30-2010, 12:37 PM	#564
mcacciola Second Lieutenant Drives: 09 335i, Silver - M Sport Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: miami, fl usa Posts: 223 iTrader: (0)	is this car officially call 1M? Why is not an M1 ????

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