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BSM 135i · 09-24-2010, 09:41 PM

i've had my BSH OCC installed since the beginning of last month and today before taking my car out i checked the dipstick on the can and it was dry, i then stuck a long wire tie in there and it was dry. then i took a flashlight and looked inside and it was completely dry.

how long before your BSH OCC collected oil? also within the time that i've had my BSH OCC installed i didn't drive my car everyday, maybe 4-5 30 mile trips and the rest where cruises around town. before the BSH i had a RR OCC installed and i didn't empty that or even check the can for months after i installed it before emptying it out and when i did it only drained 1-2 ounces of oil.

akak1997 · 09-24-2010, 10:00 PM

Depends on how you drive really. If you WOT a lot there'll be more blow by gas (oil).
I didn't see any oil in the can after 2weeks, so I send an email and asked BSH about which hose should go into which inlet, but they said it didn't matter, but I switch them around anyways, and now I see oil being collected. but then, I also did some spirited driving right after doing that. When I's switching the hose, I did see some oil in one of the hose, probably not enough to show in the can?

BSM 135i · 09-24-2010, 10:03 PM

i usually drive my car normally, out of those times i took my car out for a cruise i maybe punched it 3-4 times.

BahamaBart · 09-25-2010, 09:34 AM

appreciate your capturing oil vapors.

On our miniS, we collected 2-3 tablespoons every 3months and we drove that car hard.

It would help if the OCC had filtration material.

MadMan77 · 09-25-2010, 09:39 AM

Last time I checked the BSH can has a "baffle" with filtering media in it.

Here is a pic of it from Redline Motorworks' FS thread:

mineo77 · 09-25-2010, 10:21 AM

mine started to collect oil after track days..so drive hard.

Jettafanatic · 09-25-2010, 11:08 AM

If you're not hard boosting on / off you will not see much blow-by...

BSM 135i · 11-15-2010, 12:14 PM

can still empty, driving habits still the same. Car even sometimes garaged for a week until getting driven..

JHOOPS2 · 11-15-2010, 12:20 PM

It is very probable that most of the oil vapor is not making it to the catch can due to the extended length of hose over what you have with the OE setup. So, basically it is collecting in the hose and running back the direction it came. I know that when I installed my BSH system that there wasa good coating of oil in the OE tube that was removed.

-Jeff

BahamaBart · 11-15-2010, 07:03 PM

6 months/nothing and I drive 25,000 miles a year.

First and foremost this can desperately needs filtration material.

This can is a total bust.

nordique14 · 11-15-2010, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSM 135i

can still empty, driving habits still the same. Car even sometimes garaged for a week until getting driven..

same here. I check frequently and no oil yet. Probably only have 4k miles on it since the BSH OCC was installed. The car does not get babied either.

bryce · 11-15-2010, 10:06 PM

some cars may not suffer from the same degree of oil blow by as others. i've had my ar design catch can installed for over 2 months now, it's still dry. and i give my car plenty of WOT treatment.

Black Sheep · 11-16-2010, 09:07 AM

Its still worth having....

My135 · 11-16-2010, 11:15 AM

Same experience here ... My RR OCC has oil coating inside the can but found no real drop of oil inside for more than 12 months of driving with spirited driving few times a week.

I think this is why BMW never installed the OCC since it is not necessary based on normal driving.

BahamaBart · 11-17-2010, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My135

Same experience here ... My RR OCC has oil coating inside the can but found no real drop of oil inside for more than 12 months of driving with spirited driving few times a week.

I think this is why BMW never installed the OCC since it is not necessary based on normal driving.

Does your OCC open up? My BHS doesn't!

If so try inserting some filtration material (home depot steel wool will work fine). Fill the can but don't pack it in. Report back in 3 months.

I just have to figure out how I am going to get material in my dam can.

Few cars if any come with a OEM OCC.

Mindgame · 11-17-2010, 09:29 AM

RSD also has nothing after a month or so of "not normal" driving.

bryce · 11-17-2010, 10:08 AM

another interesting thing on my car is when i removed the factory intercooler, there was zero oil residue in it or the factory charge pipes. i've read on here and on e90post that people find a lot of oil when removing these items.

i really think some cars just don't suffer from the oil blow by that others do

J x K · 11-17-2010, 04:03 PM

I have lots of blowby oil in my IC and IC piping. I just received my BSH occ. I do alot of "spirited driving". I'll report back in a month or so.

BahamaBart · 11-18-2010, 09:28 AM

No doubt cars differ as well as we all drive differently BUT considering the amount of miles I drive by now I should have collected something. Note: both my other cars (MiniS and EvoX collected and my driving style hasn't changed

As to the length of the tubing, any oil that accumulated or condensed in the line would get pushed into the can under spirited driving. Note: the MiniS tubing was at least equal length.

The fact that it sits over the turbos doesn't help but I don't believe is the key problem. The internal screen is just not enough in my opinion.

I'm gonna just have to open this sucker up, add material to prove my point or shut up.

bryce · 11-18-2010, 10:05 AM

^the ar design occ has a pretty decent filter in it, and i'm still not collecting any oil. in my opinion, i wouldn't hack up your bsh occ to add a filter.

BahamaBart · 11-19-2010, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryce

^the ar design occ has a pretty decent filter in it, and i'm still not collecting any oil. in my opinion, i wouldn't hack up your bsh occ to add a filter.

I'm feed up w/ it. Last time I removed it I found more oil at the connection fittings than in the can. I have seen first hand the difference of collecting oil when the can is empty or contains filtration - night and day. Just to further aggravate me is the price of the can. Clearly, well made and great fittings but NO WORKIE!

We added one to my son's Evo - dinky little can (75 bucks) but had steel wool inside and traps oil beautifully. Same with the MiniS (125 bucks) - the can was similar to the RISS can - collected a bit, added filtration and collected a whole lot more.

How I became a believer in OCC was when I took the IC off the MiniS (top mount) and placed on end on the garage floor to do other work. When I went to reinstall the IC there was a little puddle of oil that had run out of the IC. Oil in the IC degrades its thermal efficiency. Living in Florida I need my IC to be optimum - I start my day heatsoaked ! lol

mineo77 · 11-19-2010, 09:55 AM

As i said before, when you drive your car hard (not just 'spirited driving' whatever that means) you will see collection, at least i do everytime i get back from the track. who knows, my intercooler could be full of oil too!!

09-24-2010, 09:41 PM	#1
BSM 135i Colonel Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 2,232 iTrader: (23)	BSH OCC still empty?? i've had my BSH OCC installed since the beginning of last month and today before taking my car out i checked the dipstick on the can and it was dry, i then stuck a long wire tie in there and it was dry. then i took a flashlight and looked inside and it was completely dry. how long before your BSH OCC collected oil? also within the time that i've had my BSH OCC installed i didn't drive my car everyday, maybe 4-5 30 mile trips and the rest where cruises around town. before the BSH i had a RR OCC installed and i didn't empty that or even check the can for months after i installed it before emptying it out and when i did it only drained 1-2 ounces of oil.
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09-25-2010, 09:34 AM	#4
BahamaBart Lieutenant Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: in front of you Posts: 582 iTrader: (0)	appreciate your capturing oil vapors. On our miniS, we collected 2-3 tablespoons every 3months and we drove that car hard. It would help if the OCC had filtration material. __________________ 2009 135i Black on Black Options\|Leather\| Sport Package\| Premium Stereo\| Steering Assist \| V1 Engine MODS\| JB4 install \| AR DPs \| Berk Axleback \| ITG Filter \| BHS OCC \| Exterior Bling\| Kerscher splitter \| Interior Bling \| Bimmian pedals \| 3P Cars gauage \|

09-25-2010, 09:39 AM	#5
MadMan77 ↓↓↓ Ex-Con ↓↓↓ Drives: JB '08 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mildenhall, UK Posts: 1,853 iTrader: (1)	Last time I checked the BSH can has a "baffle" with filtering media in it. Here is a pic of it from Redline Motorworks' FS thread: __________________

09-25-2010, 10:21 AM	#6
mineo77 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2010 135i,1989 PRO3,2001 530i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland,OR Posts: 1,928 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i coupe [3.78]	mine started to collect oil after track days..so drive hard. __________________ 135i coupe  6MT  TiAg  ///M sport http://www.rhominnovations.com www.musicarNW.com www.unitedBMWonline.com

09-25-2010, 11:08 AM	#7
Jettafanatic Private First Class Drives: 135i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 120 iTrader: (2)	If you're not hard boosting on / off you will not see much blow-by... __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(1addicts.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.

09-24-2010, 10:00 PM	#2
akak1997 Major Drives: BMW 135 @ 135mph Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,161 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	Depends on how you drive really. If you WOT a lot there'll be more blow by gas (oil). I didn't see any oil in the can after 2weeks, so I send an email and asked BSH about which hose should go into which inlet, but they said it didn't matter, but I switch them around anyways, and now I see oil being collected. but then, I also did some spirited driving right after doing that. When I's switching the hose, I did see some oil in one of the hose, probably not enough to show in the can?

09-24-2010, 10:03 PM	#3
BSM 135i Colonel Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 2,232 iTrader: (23)	i usually drive my car normally, out of those times i took my car out for a cruise i maybe punched it 3-4 times.

11-15-2010, 12:14 PM	#8
BSM 135i Colonel Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 2,232 iTrader: (23)	can still empty, driving habits still the same. Car even sometimes garaged for a week until getting driven..

11-15-2010, 12:20 PM	#9
JHOOPS2 AKA HISSMAN Drives: 2009 SG 135i Coupe' Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Posts: 884 iTrader: (5)	It is very probable that most of the oil vapor is not making it to the catch can due to the extended length of hose over what you have with the OE setup. So, basically it is collecting in the hose and running back the direction it came. I know that when I installed my BSH system that there wasa good coating of oil in the OE tube that was removed. -Jeff __________________ (FBO) Cobb Stage 2+, AR Downpipes, Injen DCI, AA (Sport) FMIC, ER Chargepipe/Synapse BOV, Carbon fiber bits and Breyton GTS-R Wheels.

11-15-2010, 07:03 PM	#10
BahamaBart Lieutenant Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: in front of you Posts: 582 iTrader: (0)	6 months/nothing and I drive 25,000 miles a year. First and foremost this can desperately needs filtration material. This can is a total bust. __________________ 2009 135i Black on Black Options\|Leather\| Sport Package\| Premium Stereo\| Steering Assist \| V1 Engine MODS\| JB4 install \| AR DPs \| Berk Axleback \| ITG Filter \| BHS OCC \| Exterior Bling\| Kerscher splitter \| Interior Bling \| Bimmian pedals \| 3P Cars gauage \|

11-15-2010, 10:06 PM	#12
bryce Banned Drives: zhp 3-pedal Join Date: May 2010 Location: texas Posts: 3,181 iTrader: (22) Garage List 2005 bmw 330ci zhp [3.67] 2008 bmw 135i- sold [3.00] 2007 bmw 335i- sold [3.57]	some cars may not suffer from the same degree of oil blow by as others. i've had my ar design catch can installed for over 2 months now, it's still dry. and i give my car plenty of WOT treatment.

11-16-2010, 09:07 AM	#13
Black Sheep A Zip an a Double Cup Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: McHenry, IL Posts: 4,418 iTrader: (5)	Its still worth having.... __________________ Cobb PROTuned \| RB's \| AMS FMIC \| AR DP's \| HPF Exhaust \| CP-E DCI \| Apex Arc 8's \| 235/275 Star Specs \|

11-16-2010, 11:15 AM	#14
My135 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,597 iTrader: (0)	Same experience here ... My RR OCC has oil coating inside the can but found no real drop of oil inside for more than 12 months of driving with spirited driving few times a week. I think this is why BMW never installed the OCC since it is not necessary based on normal driving. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.

11-17-2010, 09:29 AM	#16
Mindgame Poke Her Face Drives: 09 135I Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 367 iTrader: (0)	RSD also has nothing after a month or so of "not normal" driving. __________________ ///

11-17-2010, 10:08 AM	#17
bryce Banned Drives: zhp 3-pedal Join Date: May 2010 Location: texas Posts: 3,181 iTrader: (22) Garage List 2005 bmw 330ci zhp [3.67] 2008 bmw 135i- sold [3.00] 2007 bmw 335i- sold [3.57]	another interesting thing on my car is when i removed the factory intercooler, there was zero oil residue in it or the factory charge pipes. i've read on here and on e90post that people find a lot of oil when removing these items. i really think some cars just don't suffer from the oil blow by that others do

11-17-2010, 04:03 PM	#18
J x K NF@ E82 Drives: E82 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: FL Posts: 264 iTrader: (0)	I have lots of blowby oil in my IC and IC piping. I just received my BSH occ. I do alot of "spirited driving". I'll report back in a month or so. __________________ NF@ Jet Black E82 N54 451Whp/448Wtq @19psi; Pump gas & Meth JB3 12 OHM Tuned by: Terry Burger http://www.youtube.com/user/E82jxk

11-18-2010, 09:28 AM	#19
BahamaBart Lieutenant Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: in front of you Posts: 582 iTrader: (0)	No doubt cars differ as well as we all drive differently BUT considering the amount of miles I drive by now I should have collected something. Note: both my other cars (MiniS and EvoX collected and my driving style hasn't changed As to the length of the tubing, any oil that accumulated or condensed in the line would get pushed into the can under spirited driving. Note: the MiniS tubing was at least equal length. The fact that it sits over the turbos doesn't help but I don't believe is the key problem. The internal screen is just not enough in my opinion. I'm gonna just have to open this sucker up, add material to prove my point or shut up. __________________ 2009 135i Black on Black Options\|Leather\| Sport Package\| Premium Stereo\| Steering Assist \| V1 Engine MODS\| JB4 install \| AR DPs \| Berk Axleback \| ITG Filter \| BHS OCC \| Exterior Bling\| Kerscher splitter \| Interior Bling \| Bimmian pedals \| 3P Cars gauage \|

11-18-2010, 10:05 AM	#20
bryce Banned Drives: zhp 3-pedal Join Date: May 2010 Location: texas Posts: 3,181 iTrader: (22) Garage List 2005 bmw 330ci zhp [3.67] 2008 bmw 135i- sold [3.00] 2007 bmw 335i- sold [3.57]	^the ar design occ has a pretty decent filter in it, and i'm still not collecting any oil. in my opinion, i wouldn't hack up your bsh occ to add a filter.

11-19-2010, 09:55 AM	#22
mineo77 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2010 135i,1989 PRO3,2001 530i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland,OR Posts: 1,928 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i coupe [3.78]	As i said before, when you drive your car hard (not just 'spirited driving' whatever that means) you will see collection, at least i do everytime i get back from the track. who knows, my intercooler could be full of oil too!! __________________ 135i coupe  6MT  TiAg  ///M sport http://www.rhominnovations.com www.musicarNW.com www.unitedBMWonline.com

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