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| 10-09-2010, 06:21 AM | #1 | |
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Autocar review of the BMW 1-Series M Coupe
Another Review , And again they love it...
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...-Coupe/253281/ Quote:
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| 10-09-2010, 06:46 AM | #2 |
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a quote from the article..."The electro-mechanical steering, for all its accuracy, delivers little feedback on centre but it is quite direct, at 2.4 turns lock to lock."
That is some new news! I thought only the euro 125i's got th electro steering. ? And this car has a faster steering box too. Something is bothering me though... all these magazine tests have been "spoon fed" to the writters and us. All the pictures are obviously taken by BMW AG. Even the driver looks the same in all the "mag test" so far. Seems like this is just an elaborate marketing exercise to me. Is this the new //M ? |
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| 10-09-2010, 08:08 AM | #3 |
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I wonder how close to the final 1M this mule is. Especially steering feedback is essential for a car that is fun to drive. I personally can live wit little feedback on centre ... but I definitely need feedback to feel whether I'm approaching (or exceeding) the slip angle on the front wheels ...
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| 10-09-2010, 12:00 PM | #4 | |
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Two of these early reviews indicate the car pulls hard up to 7000 rpm, which if true, indicates some sort of upgrade on the turbo setup. This would really be fantastic news, as it means the Achilles heel of the n54 - running out of steam above 5500 rpm - has been addressed. |
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| 10-09-2010, 01:22 PM | #5 |
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An M with 31 mpg? That would sell it for me.
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| 10-09-2010, 01:34 PM | #6 |
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i really wish this had DCT..oh well, maybe in the future
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| 10-09-2010, 03:16 PM | #8 |
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Sell it for nearly anyone with some sense who uses sport cars as a daily driver. The 1M, for all the beating it has taken over the past year is starting to look like it's going to triumph.
I have a feeling that when the post-release reviews come out about how fun the car is to drive, all the hangups people have will go right out the window and the 1M will be a real driver's dream machine.
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| 10-09-2010, 03:37 PM | #10 |
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Where did you see 31mpg? That would be sweet, but can't imagine it. The slightly less powerful, and presumably lighter, Z4is only gets 17/24, 335is coupe 18/26. Hard to see this one doing much better. Even the N55 135 only gets 20/28 with manual.
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| 10-09-2010, 04:24 PM | #12 |
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With all these recent reviews for the much anticipated 1M or M1, no one seams to mention whether a better and more reliable HPFP will be introduced... Thoughts???
Cheers!!! Mo |
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| 10-09-2010, 05:35 PM | #16 | |
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The other thing is that when it actually is released, the car will be known to the general public, not just a handful of enthusiasts and car reviewers. The general public will see an affordable BMW icon that's getting (hypotheically) great reviews. Personally I'm less certain about the production numbers now than I was before the Paris release..
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| 10-09-2010, 07:04 PM | #19 | |
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From Scott's replies and more recent media comments it would seem to me that the number of units is not what will be limited, but the production run itself.
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| 10-09-2010, 08:17 PM | #20 |
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Yeah these reviews are basically the same!
It seems like nobody want's to say anything bad about it, or have driven it enough on their own to make a proper judgement. Which makes these set of reviews quite pointless... |
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| 10-09-2010, 08:28 PM | #21 |
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Lucky Lefty
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+1, these should be called previews not reviews cause they're just not detailed enough
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| 10-10-2010, 12:10 AM | #22 | |
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There is a recent thread with a 135i who had a shop custom tune his 135i N54. The power curve achieved is one of the best I've seen, if not the best. The engine pulls to at least 7K and the graph actually shows it going a bit higher, which was very surprising. I asked if this was true, and we're waiting for the tuner to respond if indeed he raised the limit. The N54 has always had potential. If that new tune is correct, then it seems there always was potential for higher rpm power. Most of the tunes we see for N54's have shown big low rpm bumps. Maybe it was tuned this way to create bigger numbers for sales of tunes. This new tune shows a more progressive torque build that doesn't show big low rpm numbers, but climbs nicely with very big mid rpm torque carrying nicely to red line. Looks like M took the same approach, and added better breathing larger turbos. The question is, did they use the next size TD04, or did they keep the quicker revving TD03 and do some porting and clipping? That would keep the near zero lag and still allow better top end breathing. Nearly all the reviews talk about the near zero or zero lag, so I'm wondering if M really did go with larger turbo's? Perhaps they used better flowing down pipes to help move the exhaust and achieve near zero lag with larger turbo's. Either way I think tuners will be happy. ![]() |
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