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| 10-09-2010, 07:26 AM | #1 |
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Small, Black, Strong - Interview with Albert Biermann on the 1M Coupé
M-Power.com just released an interview with Albert Biermann, Head of Development BMW M, giving away some more details on the 1 Series M Coupé.
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Small, black, strong – this is the figure presented by most of the prototypes for the BMW 1 Series M Coupé while they are lapping up their test kilometres. As early as July, the Managing Director of BMW M GmbH, Dr Kay Segler, revealed some initial details on the latest addition to the M family.Best regards, south
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| 10-09-2010, 07:51 AM | #2 | |
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| 10-09-2010, 08:58 AM | #3 |
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This is going to be so great. Way to go BMW!
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| 10-09-2010, 09:20 AM | #4 |
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Why do I have this feeling the new M1 coupe is BMW's response to the new Ford Mustang v. M3 controversy? Making the M3 (an M1 essentially at the size of the M3) on top of the new Mustang, yet at a more affordable price because it is not an M3.
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| 10-09-2010, 09:51 AM | #5 | |
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We all know BMW doesn't play the "one-up" game. Who cares if "critics" want to compare a cheap american car to a M3? If BMW made a car specifically to shut the critics up, they would just become another car company... Also, I think it all comes down to niche markets. There are A LOT of young guys like myself that dream of having an M car but it won't be for a couple of years until we're able to afford one. The 135i M Coupe totally bridges the gap between the 135i (10/10 on the fun scale but of course no M) and the M3 (100/10 on the fun scale, M but expensive). BMW is really just filling a gap between 2 cars. |
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| 10-09-2010, 10:14 AM | #6 |
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Since we're fairly certain the engine is N54 based, I'm curious to see if (and how) BMW's M Division has addressed the HPFP issue or if they've just buried it beneath the hype.
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| 10-09-2010, 10:30 AM | #7 | |
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The new M1 coupe will be wider than the current M3 coupe based on the initial quote, indicatinig the new M1 coupe is aimed at a much wider audience who also need the size accommodation, not just the fun factor. |
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| 10-09-2010, 10:30 AM | #8 |
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| 10-09-2010, 10:32 AM | #9 | |
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I am sure if one really wanted a DCT in a 1M, it would be possible, and probably for less money than the cost of an M3 with DCT. |
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| 10-09-2010, 10:35 AM | #10 | |
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| 10-09-2010, 10:51 AM | #11 |
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+1 Anybody who has any need for reliability (I use my 335d as a DD to work and during work and for trips to other offices) would be very unwise to pick this gem up until the HPFP issue is put to rest once and for all.
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| 10-09-2010, 11:10 AM | #12 |
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Thank God it's only a 6MT... at least BMW hasn't totally lost touch with it's roots
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| 10-09-2010, 12:03 PM | #14 | |
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But if you can come out of the shell of the BMW fanatics, think about someone who is in the market for a loaded muscle car, his budget only allows him to look for the new Mustang, or the new Camero, or the new Charger...or one of those Japanese...now he learns there is a similarly priced (ok maybe not so similar but still way batter than a loaded M3) BMW coupe, big enough in size too, he may decide to give his local BMW dealer a visit... But if the only goal of this new M1 coupe is to cater to a segment of the BMW clients, I say it will actually piss off some, because this new M1 coupe will be bigger than the 335is coupe (at least wider for sure), more powerful and much faster than the 335is coupe, and possibly cost less than the 335is too. Last edited by dtc100; 10-09-2010 at 12:11 PM. |
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| 10-09-2010, 12:21 PM | #15 |
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8:12 (est) vs 8:39.2 for the stock 135i (Source: fastestlaps) is mighty impressive. 27 seconds is massive. BMW know their stuff, I'm happy to be a supporter of the brand
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| 10-09-2010, 01:25 PM | #17 | |
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I can only imagine what this thing would be like with a software tune. |
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| 10-09-2010, 01:55 PM | #18 |
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I don't see a sunroof in the photos, is it going to come with a CF roof standard or optional or not at all because it is an "entry level" M series?
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| 10-09-2010, 02:05 PM | #19 |
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1500 kg (3300 lbs) and 340 hp puts the power to weight ratio of the 1M in between e46 M3 and e86 Z4M. That is a little bit of a let down.
Nonetheless, the estimated 8:12 ring time is pretty impressive (especially the 27 sec delta from the stock 135). |
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| 10-09-2010, 02:26 PM | #20 |
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True, but if you look at the torque/weight ratio (and the rev range the torque is delivered) the 1M is clearly ahead of any M car with a NA engine.
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| 10-09-2010, 03:05 PM | #21 | |
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It will be very interesting to learn more specifics on the gearing. |
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| 10-09-2010, 03:16 PM | #22 | |
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Bigger turbos and better cooling ... things the 1er deserves. This is also in sync with Scott26's comment about the 1M engine not being a "straight-forward transplant" of an existing engine. The 135i N54 and also the "Z4 sDrive 35is" fall off at >6k rpm, so the engine described by the journalists is definitely not just a chipped N54. Also good news ![]() Gearing: at least one of the articles talk about roughly M3 gearing ... with of course a shorter final drive to compensate for the smaller rev range of the 1M engine. |
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