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      10-14-2010, 03:57 PM   #1
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Autobild on the 1 Series M Coupe - CF roof optional?

German Autobild has published their impressions on the 1 Series M Coupé as well: http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-1...t-1270428.html

In short, they had a blast too: "The acceleration's strong, the steering's precise, and the handling is 'magnetic'. As far as handling goes, it might take on the M3."

Surprisingly, Autobild claims a CF roof would be available as option. There's still hope then, I guess. Thanks to Dackelone for providing this scan:

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"Das Carbondach kostet extra" - "The CF roof is optional"


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      10-14-2010, 04:19 PM   #2
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They should make the hood, trunk, doors and any non structural panels CF optional as well. I can imagine buyer sinking in another 10-15k for CF parts.
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The point of the 1M Coupe is affordability.
So features you normally expect to see on an M car and take for granted as standard equipment will not be standard to keep costs down.
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The point of the 1M Coupe is affordability.
So features you normally expect to see on an M car and take for granted as standard equipment will not be standard to keep costs down.
How much more could a CF roof cost over a sunroof option???

I know the sunroof's are standard on US spec cars... but come on!

I know I would rather have no sunroof and a CF roof! IF the option wasn't too costly vs the sunroof price.
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      10-14-2010, 04:43 PM   #5
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We have a standard tin roof here in UK and pay £500 ($750) for a sunroof.

Could CF be another option for the same price or a bit more?

TBH I don't dig sunroofs that much.
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The point of the 1M Coupe is affordability.
So features you normally expect to see on an M car and take for granted as standard equipment will not be standard to keep costs down.
Thanks SCOTT. I think the question is whether a CF roof or hood or panels might be available as a premium option, not necessarily as standard equipment. Can you enlighten us on this?

Personally, I'd rather have a sunroof than CF and would be willing to pay extra for it.
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The point of the 1M Coupe is affordability.
So features you normally expect to see on an M car and take for granted as standard equipment will not be standard to keep costs down.
I hope the operative phrase here is "will not be standard" and not be confused with "not be available."

I do hope this car can be optioned the way I would like it, including M goodies, CF bits and, most of all for me, individual color (those 3 colors are simply not enough.)

I completely support your goal of affordability but hope BMW supports our desire to option-out this car to be all it can be, with cost being somewhat secondary...

Still, I'm buying this car no matter what.
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Heck. Make A/C optional too. My windows are usually down to hear the exhaust anyways.
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Heck. Make A/C optional too. My windows are usually down to hear the exhaust anyways.
Haha.. let's not get too carried away.
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WINDOWS?

Who keeps the stock windows?

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The point of the 1M Coupe is affordability.
So features you normally expect to see on an M car and take for granted as standard equipment will not be standard to keep costs down.
I take Scott's lack of refutation of Autobild's claim (when he easily could have and has done so in the past) as confirmation of the Optional Availability of the CF roof.
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Ok, I must be missing something. I can't find mention of carbon fiber anywhere in the article. Was it mentioned only in the magazine article, not online?
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Sunroofs add weight at the highest point of the vehicle - not good. CF does the opposite.
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LSD had to be standard I hope...
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How much weight does the cf roof save on an M3 and can anyone estimate how much weight it'd save on a 1er?

I'd definitely be up for ticking the CF option box.. quite happy to hear the possibility of an optional CF roof, made my day in fact!
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How much weight does the cf roof save on an M3 and can anyone estimate how much weight it'd save on a 1er?

I'd definitely be up for ticking the CF option box.. quite happy to hear the possibility of an optional CF roof, made my day in fact!
Me too. I use the moon roof rarely, and really have a tight fit into my 1er as far as headroom.

Im hoping the CF roof option will mean a bit more headroom as well.

+ the Black CF roof looks badass with the ap white 1ers!
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How much weight does the cf roof save on an M3 and can anyone estimate how much weight it'd save on a 1er?

I'd definitely be up for ticking the CF option box.. quite happy to hear the possibility of an optional CF roof, made my day in fact!
on the E46 CSL it's 7kg (15.4lbs) ... but it's from the top of the car, and therefore "far away" from the center of gravity.
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So features you normally expect to see on an M car and take for granted as standard equipment will not be standard to keep costs down.
So that makes it a NON-M car.......
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Ok, I must be missing something. I can't find mention of carbon fiber anywhere in the article. Was it mentioned only in the magazine article, not online?
Yep, it's only mentioned in the magazine article.

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How much weight does the cf roof save on an M3 and can anyone estimate how much weight it'd save on a 1er?
It saves 3.7 kg or 8.2 lbs over a steel top (without sun-roof) on the E92.


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South would you have any info as to whether, or not, the 1M will be running Individual Throttle bodies?

I would imagine in the long line of ///M cars that ITBs would be offered on the car.

If I'm correct only the e36 M3 didn't run ITBs, at least in the U.S.A.

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South would you have any info as to whether, or not, the 1M will be running Individual Throttle bodies?

I would imagine in the long line of ///M cars that ITBs would be offered on the car.

If I'm correct on the e36 M3 didn't run ITBs, at least in the U.S.A.

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Don't expect to be amazed by this car in anything but handling, which is fine for many of us, barring the price is right.
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