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kellzir · 03-10-2011, 03:29 PM

I just got the letter today. I was wondering if I should schedule an appt or just wait it out. Car has been great, no long cranks or anything.

rho · 03-10-2011, 08:08 PM

Which dealership did you go for service, and which dealership did you lease your car from? I'm going to take my car in next week, but I'm not sure which location I want to go to. I'm also getting the seatbelt tensioner done and I don't want a mess in my car.

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Originally Posted by Mattcali

just got my 2010 135i back from the dealer (not the one i leased it from b/c they have horrible service). replaced the fuel pump and did the reprogramming. i never had problems with the origional pump but they replaced it anyway. car drives just fine - still as powerful as before all that work, maybe they bumped the mapping a tad thereby altering the drive ever so slightly but its a push and shove, not a loss in power which would be a big difference to me - so, at least in my case, the reprogramming did not make my car feel less powerful, and i drive the car hard as you have to in all the LA street and freeway traffic. so it comes down to my main point of dissatisfaction with my 135 is that there is, i guess, unfixable ratteling coming from the headliner (after a while you tune it out but its bad, my e46 M3 [8 yrs old 85K] still has NO sqeaks or rattels), and the sterio is just horribly quiet (easy to max out) and poor quality - sucks (and i have premium package, sport package w/ nav, HD radio, etc.) other than that i still really like the car and plan to keep it, unless it starts quitting on me or other things start breaking - who knows with these 135s - it seems some lucky owners get near perfect ones (like my M3) and others get quirky ones that do strange annoying things that just cannot be fixed at any center - why couldnt BMW have made these cars right? design wise they are very far ahead reflecting a sincere effort but some of the quality is simply poor (they are like mustangs this way). to me these issues are on the cusp of being lived with if it proves to be a dependable driver - they are truly thrilling when they work right and you get attached.

m981addicts · 03-10-2011, 08:53 PM

Recall done 7 days ago. Cranks 'seem' to be slightly longer starting yesterday (i.e. four 'ticks' to start). Real or my imagination? No SES's. Will monitor.

Anyone else?

e34m5 · 03-15-2011, 03:40 PM

Mine was replaced yesterday. Everything back to normal.

Turbolader · 05-07-2011, 02:40 AM

Mine was replaced earlier this week. 446 pump + software update.

I've lost 50% of low end boost. Car feels like they replaced my n54 with the n52. Shouldn't be the accelerator remapping because I've already got 250+ miles of hard driving on it, so it should be relearned by now.

Already called and complained to BMW NA, but I know it's pointless. Going to take it back to the dealer and have a tech drive it like he stole it, so he too can see how much power is gone. Not sure what they can do, short of giving me my old pump and old programming back, because everything is installed correctly (No boost/vacuum leaks, wastegates are working, yadda yadda yadda)

Nothing like paying for 300tq and getting 250.

BimmerJim · 05-07-2011, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbolader

Mine was replaced earlier this week. 446 pump + software update.

I've lost 50% of low end boost. Car feels like they replaced my n54 with the n52. Shouldn't be the accelerator remapping because I've already got 250+ miles of hard driving on it, so it should be relearned by now.

Already called and complained to BMW NA, but I know it's pointless. Going to take it back to the dealer and have a tech drive it like he stole it, so he too can see how much power is gone. Not sure what they can do, short of giving me my old pump and old programming back, because everything is installed correctly (No boost/vacuum leaks, wastegates are working, yadda yadda yadda)

Nothing like paying for 300tq and getting 250.

Like your scripture in the post

sdpauly · 06-08-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kellzir

I just got the letter today. I was wondering if I should schedule an appt or just wait it out. Car has been great, no long cranks or anything.

I'm in the same boat... I'm thinking not to mess with it unless I actually have a problem.

richmondmike · 06-22-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbolader

Mine was replaced earlier this week. 446 pump + software update.

I've lost 50% of low end boost. Car feels like they replaced my n54 with the n52. Shouldn't be the accelerator remapping because I've already got 250+ miles of hard driving on it, so it should be relearned by now.

Already called and complained to BMW NA, but I know it's pointless. Going to take it back to the dealer and have a tech drive it like he stole it, so he too can see how much power is gone. Not sure what they can do, short of giving me my old pump and old programming back, because everything is installed correctly (No boost/vacuum leaks, wastegates are working, yadda yadda yadda)

Nothing like paying for 300tq and getting 250.

I'd love for someone to dyno a before and after on this. I did the pump and software and I swear my car feels like it has more turbo lag than before. Anyone else experience this?

FactorX81 · 06-27-2011, 09:10 AM

Question: How do you know which model pump was installed? Had mine done 5/27 and the invoice says

1 13-51-7-616-170 EXCHANGE HIGH-PRESSURE PUMP: 135019
CORE CHARGE W
1 13-53-7-582-770 ASA-BOLT: 13509953

I dont see a 446 number on the sheet. I didnt have any problems with the car or anything they just told me I had to do a recall. Also I dont think they reprogrammed it I did not notice any power difference or anything I guess I already had the laggy software everyone is talking about.

FactorX81 · 06-28-2011, 10:40 AM

Ok so I didn't get the exact 446 but an equivalent.

rudyv1 · 07-19-2011, 08:09 AM

Any update to your situation with the lost power?

I'm holding off getting the recall done until this who issue can be fixed, hence I'm curious to know how you made out with BMW

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbolader

Mine was replaced earlier this week. 446 pump + software update.

I've lost 50% of low end boost. Car feels like they replaced my n54 with the n52. Shouldn't be the accelerator remapping because I've already got 250+ miles of hard driving on it, so it should be relearned by now.

Already called and complained to BMW NA, but I know it's pointless. Going to take it back to the dealer and have a tech drive it like he stole it, so he too can see how much power is gone. Not sure what they can do, short of giving me my old pump and old programming back, because everything is installed correctly (No boost/vacuum leaks, wastegates are working, yadda yadda yadda)

Nothing like paying for 300tq and getting 250.

Venom · 08-14-2011, 01:59 PM

Just got a 446 pump and 2 new injectors. Are the injectors under warranty too? They seem to fail together.
I got the software update so if anyone local wants to dyno my car, I would be happy to let them. But I do not have a pre-software update dyno so the point may be moot. The car is definitely less powerful but it is smoother and I do not feel any of the turbolag. So my opinion is ymmv.

I used to be able to feel the cdv, now my shifts are fairly smooth and clean. I do not need to pause between shifts anymore. Where before I would feel pressure not letting me upshift immediately with >4K rpm.

Absorber · 08-19-2011, 05:02 PM

I just had my HPFP and software update done. I wish I hadn't. The car has definitely lost some power. I used to be able to get a brief burnout launching in 1st with DTC turned off. Now it lags instead. I also used to be able to chirp the wheels sometimes going into 2nd. Not anymore. The car does feel more smooth when shifting and building power across the band; it's just not as violent and fun as it was. I'm disappointed.

Also, the pump primes very loudly now when the car "wakes up" after unlocking or opening a door after it has been sitting. It sounds like a Hoover vacuum for a few seconds.

thez99 · 08-20-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Absorber

I just had my HPFP and software update done. I wish I hadn't. The car has definitely lost some power. I used to be able to get a brief burnout launching in 1st with DTC turned off. Now it lags instead. I also used to be able to chirp the wheels sometimes going into 2nd. Not anymore. The car does feel more smooth when shifting and building power across the band; it's just not as violent and fun as it was. I'm disappointed.

Also, the pump primes very loudly now when the car "wakes up" after unlocking or opening a door after it has been sitting. It sounds like a Hoover vacuum for a few seconds.

That's cuz it's doing what it should to prime the pump to keep it from failing.

BimmerE82 · 08-29-2011, 07:11 PM

Visited the dealer this past weekend and they let me know the previous owner of my 2009 135i took care of this last year! Good news!

GinDenver · 11-07-2011, 11:19 PM

Have stage 3 Dinan and recently got the new fuel pump recommended by the dealer... frankly car does not run as well now... especially at lower RPM.. seems to have throttle response delay / more turbo lag etc... car was running fine before, wish I had left it alone. Anyone else had these issues?..

03-10-2011, 08:53 PM	#113
m981addicts Enlisted Member Drives: Mz3.EvoVIII.135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Motor Earth Posts: 49 iTrader: (0)	Recall done 7 days ago. Cranks 'seem' to be slightly longer starting yesterday (i.e. four 'ticks' to start). Real or my imagination? No SES's. Will monitor. Anyone else? Last edited by m981addicts; 03-10-2011 at 09:03 PM.

05-07-2011, 02:40 AM	#115
Turbolader The Fat Stig Drives: 2010 135i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: 2003 Stg 3+ SRT-4 Posts: 274 iTrader: (1)	Mine was replaced earlier this week. 446 pump + software update. I've lost 50% of low end boost. Car feels like they replaced my n54 with the n52. Shouldn't be the accelerator remapping because I've already got 250+ miles of hard driving on it, so it should be relearned by now. Already called and complained to BMW NA, but I know it's pointless. Going to take it back to the dealer and have a tech drive it like he stole it, so he too can see how much power is gone. Not sure what they can do, short of giving me my old pump and old programming back, because everything is installed correctly (No boost/vacuum leaks, wastegates are working, yadda yadda yadda) Nothing like paying for 300tq and getting 250. __________________ Philippians 1:20

08-14-2011, 01:59 PM	#122
Venom Major Drives: Teg DC2 + E82 135i Join Date: May 2011 Location: Easy Bay, CA Posts: 1,463 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [4.25]	Just got a 446 pump and 2 new injectors. Are the injectors under warranty too? They seem to fail together. I got the software update so if anyone local wants to dyno my car, I would be happy to let them. But I do not have a pre-software update dyno so the point may be moot. The car is definitely less powerful but it is smoother and I do not feel any of the turbolag. So my opinion is ymmv. I used to be able to feel the cdv, now my shifts are fairly smooth and clean. I do not need to pause between shifts anymore. Where before I would feel pressure not letting me upshift immediately with >4K rpm. __________________ - Thanks MGallop! Widebody 135i Powered by: Wagner-Tuning & VMR Wheels TheSt\|G - "And if you think the 1M got the N54 for any reason other than to keep it slower/cheaper than the M3 you are delusional."

08-19-2011, 05:02 PM	#123
Absorber Lieutenant Drives: 2010 135i Coupe Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 446 iTrader: (2)	I just had my HPFP and software update done. I wish I hadn't. The car has definitely lost some power. I used to be able to get a brief burnout launching in 1st with DTC turned off. Now it lags instead. I also used to be able to chirp the wheels sometimes going into 2nd. Not anymore. The car does feel more smooth when shifting and building power across the band; it's just not as violent and fun as it was. I'm disappointed. Also, the pump primes very loudly now when the car "wakes up" after unlocking or opening a door after it has been sitting. It sounds like a Hoover vacuum for a few seconds. __________________ 2010 BMW 135i ● 6MT ● AW ● CR ● GS Trim ● M Sport ● Premium ● Cold Weather ● CA ● Nav ● Premium hi-fi ● iPod/USB ● Security

08-29-2011, 07:11 PM	#125
BimmerE82 Lieutenant Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Sport package Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 510 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [0.00]	Visited the dealer this past weekend and they let me know the previous owner of my 2009 135i took care of this last year! Good news! __________________

03-10-2011, 03:29 PM	#111
kellzir Private First Class Drives: 1thirty5 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 123 iTrader: (0)	I just got the letter today. I was wondering if I should schedule an appt or just wait it out. Car has been great, no long cranks or anything.

03-15-2011, 03:40 PM	#114
e34m5 Captain Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 771 iTrader: (0)	Mine was replaced yesterday. Everything back to normal.

06-27-2011, 09:10 AM	#119
FactorX81 Private First Class Drives: 2010 135i, 2000 Nissan Sentra Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	Question: How do you know which model pump was installed? Had mine done 5/27 and the invoice says 1 13-51-7-616-170 EXCHANGE HIGH-PRESSURE PUMP: 135019 CORE CHARGE W 1 13-53-7-582-770 ASA-BOLT: 13509953 I dont see a 446 number on the sheet. I didnt have any problems with the car or anything they just told me I had to do a recall. Also I dont think they reprogrammed it I did not notice any power difference or anything I guess I already had the laggy software everyone is talking about.

06-28-2011, 10:40 AM	#120
FactorX81 Private First Class Drives: 2010 135i, 2000 Nissan Sentra Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	Ok so I didn't get the exact 446 but an equivalent.

11-07-2011, 11:19 PM	#126
GinDenver Registered Drives: 135i Dinan Stage 3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3 iTrader: (0)	Dinan and new fuel pump Have stage 3 Dinan and recently got the new fuel pump recommended by the dealer... frankly car does not run as well now... especially at lower RPM.. seems to have throttle response delay / more turbo lag etc... car was running fine before, wish I had left it alone. Anyone else had these issues?..

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