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      12-10-2010, 12:09 PM   #375
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With a proper tune this could be an awesome car but honestly when your paying that much for a "M" model you should be getting the performance to come with it. This is more like an "is" model rather than a M
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Wow....

I'm more than cognizant of everyone being "entitled" to an opinion; but if you literally have nothing to say worth reading don't post.

There's a handful of posters in here who've complained, about almost the exact same things, a handful of times.

If you don't like it, cool, gtfo-

I, amongst the few it seems like, love the car, as a whole. I believe it's just right.

I like the fact there's three colors, now at least, reminds me of my '00 Civic Si; there was only three colors, so you had to deal...or not. I also love the fact that there's no DCT, that should force people to drive a manual, or learn -

I hope we'll see some reviews fairly soon, pretty sure the embargo is gone now, and that'll help seal the deal.

Does anyone "know" if they did change out the turbos? I remember reading in a review that there was mention of upgraded turbos...which would definitely differentiate it from a Z435iS.

Sorry for the rant.
A PUBLIC forum is going to draw in opinions both positive and negative. People who don't like reading the negatives, should not get butt hurt just because someone does not like the car that they do.

Take any car out there. Some will love it and some will hate it. Some may like it and wish just a few things were different.
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      12-10-2010, 12:20 PM   #378
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Also BMW PLEASE dont give us Jet Black.... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give us a black with more character like the e36 Cosmos or the E46 Carbon....
It's actually Sapphire Black, so it is metallic.
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      12-10-2010, 12:23 PM   #380
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A PUBLIC forum is going to draw in opinions both positive and negative. People who don't like reading the negatives, should not get butt hurt just because someone does not like the car that they do.

Take any car out there. Some will love it and some will hate it. Some may like it and wish just a few things were different.
I'm jealous of your MR2!
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      12-10-2010, 12:24 PM   #381
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A PUBLIC forum is going to draw in opinions both positive and negative. People who don't like reading the negatives, should not get butt hurt just because someone does not like the car that they do.

Take any car out there. Some will love it and some will hate it. Some may like it and wish just a few things were different.
It's not a matter of having one's feelings hurt; it's more a matter of having the enjoyment of finally seeing the car detracted from. This doesn't apply to just me either; I'm confident there's a fair amount of other people, who actually like the car, that feel the same way.

If you read my whole post, I believe you did, you'll note I acknowledged people's entitlement to their opinions. I, subjectively, find it worthless to take the time to criticize a car that's been out, officially, for less than 24 hours.

There's only been a handful of people, on this forum, that have driven the car. There's been zero negative reviews; yet people feel the need to offer a critique on the car's performance, which they've never driven/seen in person.

Again; I'm aware that everyone is able and willing to state their opinions and that some will like and some will not like the car. I just believe there's more constructive ways of stating it.
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It seems the rear is sitting very high
X2 for me too it look to high but I can beleive how I like the interrior trim it's indiscriptable ! It give the punch we miss in our one series.
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      12-10-2010, 12:30 PM   #383
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Well time to put my .02 in this convo. I am actually torn....

1. I love the fact that the suspension is from M Gmbh....
2. I don't like the hp/tq numbers..will be really hard to go down from my current ~370whp/401lb/ft to those numbers.
3. Don't know if it will be worth it to get another car payment or finish paying off the 135 and then use the rest of the money for extensive suspension/tire upgrades.
4. Ehh...the looks are ok but I honestly still think the look of the original performance bumper follows the lines of the vehicle better.
It does not have the "curtain" effect but it DOES have vents for cooling the braking system....

What do you guys think? Should I keep it or get a new one?
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I'm pretty disappointed. I don't think it was worth all of the hype that they created with the teasing. One thing is that it weighs more than the e46 M3, WTF!?!?!?!?

Another is that, I would've liked it more if the engine was made to be more unique to M instead of just using the 335is/Z435is N54. Although I remember Scott saying that this engine would be a hybrid of some sort by integrating the N54 with some other thing to make it have zero lag. I guess the "hybrid" term is what the "free revving" is in the specs sheet. I don't know what that is though, can any one clarify this?
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Well time to put my .02 in this convo. I am actually torn....

1. I love the fact that the suspension is from M Gmbh....
2. I don't like the hp/tq numbers..will be really hard to go down from my current ~370whp/401lb/ft to those numbers.
3. Don't know if it will be worth it to get another car payment or finish paying off the 135 and then use the rest of the money for extensive suspension/tire upgrades.
4. Ehh...the looks are ok but I honestly still think the look of the original performance bumper follows the lines of the vehicle better.
It does not have the "curtain" effect but it DOES have vents for cooling the braking system....

What do you guys think? Should I keep it or get a new one?
I say take it for a drive then decide whether you like it more than your 135
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      12-10-2010, 12:43 PM   #386
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It's actually Sapphire Black, so it is metallic.
Yes thanks I didnt see that link when I posted my embarrassing cry!... haha

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      12-10-2010, 12:49 PM   #387
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Well time to put my .02 in this convo. I am actually torn....

1. I love the fact that the suspension is from M Gmbh....
2. I don't like the hp/tq numbers..will be really hard to go down from my current ~370whp/401lb/ft to those numbers.
3. Don't know if it will be worth it to get another car payment or finish paying off the 135 and then use the rest of the money for extensive suspension/tire upgrades.
4. Ehh...the looks are ok but I honestly still think the look of the original performance bumper follows the lines of the vehicle better.
It does not have the "curtain" effect but it DOES have vents for cooling the braking system....

What do you guys think? Should I keep it or get a new one?

Adrean, do you honestly think this car has 335hp? That would mean a 135i really has 300hp. I cringe everytime I see people complain about the published hp. Come on folks! It clearly has more than that. Plus, OEM hp for whatever reason is stronger than aftermarket one. I'd bet big money a "335hp" 1M is faster than a car with only a reflash. Even if it is only the "is" motor, it weighs over 200lbs+ less. That is awesome!
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      12-10-2010, 01:02 PM   #388
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Adrean, do you honestly think this car has 335hp? That would mean a 135i really has 300hp. I cringe everytime I see people complain about the published hp. Come on folks! It clearly has more than that. Plus, OEM hp for whatever reason is stronger than aftermarket one. I'd bet big money a "335hp" 1M is faster than a car with only a reflash. Even if it is only the "is" motor, it weighs over 200lbs+ less. That is awesome!
335HP seems in line with the 13.2 1/4 mile time they are stating.. I ran a 13.2 in my girls 335i with just exhaust and downpipes, which seems in line also.

Again, the car is nice in many many ways.. The power is underwhelming.
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that should force people to drive a manual, or learn
1. DCT is faster

2. What benefit is there in "forcing" people to drive a manual, for you, for BMW, or for the world in general

3. I'm pretty sure most of us on this forum know how to drive a manual.


Im sorry but comments like the one that user made are frustrating. They also make little sense. Honestly, I dont mean to single technik330 out but i saw that as a prime example.
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I'm jealous of your MR2!
Lol don't be. It's been a hell of a hard time getting it to where it is!
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White lights for cluster????!!!!!!!! WTF is going on with BMW!!!!!!???? AHHHHHHHH i feel like screaming...... This car is missing alot of things.......

My opinion: Car should have had warm up lights in cluster like M3, when cluster is lit, lights should be amber...not white like a nissan or toyota/lexus...... wow that bugs me.....(...) Overall......I love the new 1M.....but if that cluster is indeed white when lit, thats a deal breaker for me......
Hate to break it to you, but the light cluster in the M3 also lights up with white numerals. Truly sorry to ruin your day.
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Adrean, do you honestly think this car has 335hp? That would mean a 135i really has 300hp. I cringe everytime I see people complain about the published hp. Come on folks! It clearly has more than that. Plus, OEM hp for whatever reason is stronger than aftermarket one. I'd bet big money a "335hp" 1M is faster than a car with only a reflash. Even if it is only the "is" motor, it weighs over 200lbs+ less. That is awesome!
a. no i don't think it has 335 whp...my car has ~370whp....if the 1M has more than 370hp to the wheels then it will go down as on of the most underrated stock engines in history IMHO. Don't cringe buddy!

b. The is only a 77lb weight difference according to the "visualizer" and only a 24lbs weight difference from my car to the 1M (my car weighs 3320lbs per Roebling Road trackside scales....1M weighs 3296lbs)

So once again I say is it really worth the extra 25k I will fork out after trade-in/private sale of my 135i vs. doing extensive suspension mods to my current car?
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335HP seems in line with the 13.2 1/4 mile time they are stating.. I ran a 13.2 in my girls 335i with just exhaust and downpipes, which seems in line also.

Again, the car is nice in many many ways.. The power is underwhelming.
But its not 335hp. That is what I'm getting at. That means it has identical HP to the 135i/335i. It simply dosen't. This is all marketing.

BMW sates the 0-60mph in the M3 at 4.7. The fastest its done was 4.1. They almost always overstate the acceleration times. Porsche does it too. The 1M will no doubt be a 12 second car. A 06 Z4M was pulling 13.2sec in the quarter mi.
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If i have the money when the 1M comes out..I will buy one!! I love this car and power wise it's plenty fast..
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Lol don't be. It's been a hell of a hard time getting it to where it is!
I know how you feel. I'm in that process with my Z32 300zx!


Thanks for the video link. Those cams sound SICK!!!!! AND a gt40!!!


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