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Dannydeleted · 01-05-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by maxnix

Whenever Rob calls. He said it would be very soon.

Mine is a N55 with DCT so that is probably why he wants to check it out and either use it to develop the N55 tune or confirm it if it is developed on a N55 6MT.

It's of course up to him to authorize any comments I may be allowed to post during the time he might use mine for development.

So I will post what I can when I can.

Be sure to wave to Rob for me when ya see him!

Thaddy · 01-05-2011, 10:53 PM

Looking forward to seeing how the N55 tunes turn out! $900 is steep, but you the AP's are so easy to use, I like to think I'm paying a bit extra to save some time flashing back to stock for dealership visits. Also, keep in mind this isn't just a tune, it also can provide good real time information.

cwg · 01-05-2011, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxnix

Whenever Rob calls. He said it would be very soon.

Mine is a N55 with DCT so that is probably why he wants to check it out and either use it to develop the N55 tune or confirm it if it is developed on a N55 6MT.

It's of course up to him to authorize any comments I may be allowed to post during the time he might use mine for development.

So I will post what I can when I can.

Will be interestng to see if there is a seperate map for the N55 DCT. Also do you know if the flash technology lends itself to modifying the DCT controls as well.

Thaddy · 01-05-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by maxnix

I think one of the attractions is that if someone runs into to you or you have a sudden HPFP failure, you just reload the OEM tune. I think a time of 8 minutes was mentioned, but don't quote me. Of course the car would have to still be battery powered.

Absolutely. In my opinion, the extra benefits the AP offers over the piggy-back tunes definitely warrants the increase in price. I'll be purchasing one next summer

Shaggykjb_135I · 01-05-2011, 11:03 PM

This ap in my opintion is just what I've been looking for. not a piggy back unit, not a flash with the loss of your oem rom. AND you have all the data log and real time reading in your hand and no mods to the intiror with gauges every where. perfect sleeper mod. Im sold..

Dannydeleted · 01-05-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thaddy

Absolutely. In my opinion, the extra benefits the AP offers over the piggy-back tunes definitely warrants the increase in price. I'll be purchasing one next summer

chesterfan1230 · 01-05-2011, 11:12 PM

What about Tuner codes and codes from Catless Exhausts? When will Stage 2 Be released? I have Intake, Catless Downpipes and will be doing an intercooler in the spring.

cwg · 01-05-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggykjb_135I

This ap in my opintion is just what I've been looking for. not a piggy back unit, not a flash with the loss of your oem rom. AND you have all the data log and real time reading in your hand and no mods to the intiror with gauges every where. perfect sleeper mod. Im sold..

I agree this is a very attractive package for all those reasons - but the identified performance gains seem to be about half of what I would expect - not sure what is going on there. It seems that the JB and Vishnu systems and the reported results of the Cobb 335i tune are increases of about 60 hp plus or twice the gain reported for the cobb 135i tune.

Rob@Cobb · 01-05-2011, 11:19 PM

Hello Everyone,

We're working to get another stock N54 135i on our home dyno in Austin ASAP. The dyno graph that you see is very conservative and made on our Portland Mustang dyno which was recently completely torn apart. Keeping in mind we can, and will, release updated maps as we go along. Simply pull the maps off our site, add them to the AP, flash and you have the latest tunes.

Cheers,
Rob

onefastman · 01-05-2011, 11:22 PM

Main concern is getting a good tune for those of us who push it a bit more. I.e. dp's, intake, fmic, meth, and no2 tuning.

I wont use no2 but meth is a must.

Shaggykjb_135I · 01-05-2011, 11:23 PM

well take into account that the gain is only on pump gas with no supporting mods. as of now, I bet the only reason the 135 & 335 power differences are large is not just computing differences but mabey a differance in supporting systems like exhaust back pressure or a different intercooler temps. Just throwing ideas out.

collegemt · 01-05-2011, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cwg

I agree this is a very attractive package for all those reasons - but the identified performance gains seem to be about half of what I would expect - not sure what is going on there. It seems that the JB and Vishnu systems and the reported results of the Cobb 335i tune are increases of about 60 hp plus or twice the gain reported for the cobb 135i tune.

I read on e90post the differences in the 335i and 135i could be due to different locations and different dynos used:

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Originally Posted by COBB Tuning

I'll let Rob address the differences in power.

We'd like to get a bone stock 08-10 135i in here at the Austin facility, perhaps tomorrow at our First Thursday event. The 335i and the 535i were dynoed here at our Austin facility and the 135i was dynoed at our Surgeline facility in Portland, OR. We'd really like to see how the 135i performs on the same dyno the 335i and 535i were tested on, so if you are in the Austin area and want to see how much power your 135i would make using the AccessPORT, give us a call at 866-922-3059 and we'll schedule an install and dyno pull.

We're at:
COBB Tuning
2311 W Rundberg Lane, Suite 500
Austin TX 78758

Thanks,

Gary

Dannydeleted · 01-05-2011, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by onefastman

Main concern is getting a good tune for those of us who push it a bit more. I.e. dp's, intake, fmic, meth, and no2 tuning.

I wont use no2 but meth is a must.

Oh yes...and that's where our retail locations' tuners and calibrators will provide users with support for those needing tunes with a bit more "oomph"

Shaggykjb_135I · 01-05-2011, 11:27 PM

bet the difference in alltitudes paid apart in numbers

Shaggykjb_135I · 01-05-2011, 11:31 PM

just throwing it out their...i got a bone stock 135 and Im willin to donate time for a good cause..(and free dyno time

)

Rob@Cobb · 01-05-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggykjb_135I

just throwing it out their...i got a bone stock 135 and Im willin to donate time for a good cause..(and free dyno time

)

You have a PM.

Cheers,
Rob

cwg · 01-05-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Hello Everyone,

We're working to get another stock N54 135i on our home dyno in Austin ASAP. The dyno graph that you see is very conservative and made on our Portland Mustang dyno which was recently completely torn apart. Keeping in mind we can, and will, release updated maps as we go along. Simply pull the maps off our site, add them to the AP, flash and you have the latest tunes.

Cheers,
Rob

Rob - the numbers are really perplexing because even if the dyno is conservative you would think that the conservative nature would be reflected in both the stock run as well as the tuned runs. In additon the peak numbers are actually better on the 135 runs for both tuned and stock than they are on the 335i, odd if the Mustang dyno is more conservative than the one in Texas.

Are there significant differences in the code used between the 335i and 135i tunes? My layman's assumption was that they would be very similar or identical.

MikeNeo · 01-05-2011, 11:50 PM

will the flat foot shift feature be available with this accessport? That would be a selling point for me.

Rob@Cobb · 01-05-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cwg

Rob - the numbers are really perplexing because even if the dyno is conservative you would think that the conservative nature would be reflected in both the stock run as well as the tuned runs. In additon the peak numbers are actually better on the 135 runs for both tuned and stock than they are on the 335i, odd if the Mustang dyno is more conservative than the one in Texas.

Are there significant differences in the code used between the 335i and 135i tunes? My layman's assumption was that they would be very similar or identical.

The ROM revisions are the same and shared between the 135i and 335i. I'm not excited about the results from that dyno either, but it was recently fully torn apart.

We have a fully stock 135i coming in early next week to dyno and tune which will provie great results. Tomorrow evening I will be tuning a manual 135i with a FMIC and cat-back. Not perfect for results, but they will be telling of the power delta.

Cheers,
Rob

HondaGoneRogue · 01-06-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeNeo

will the flat foot shift feature be available with this accessport? That would be a selling point for me.

Can you do that with a flash? I thought it was only possible with MoTec, K-Pro, AEM etc. (Standalones)

cwg · 01-06-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

The ROM revisions are the same and shared between the 135i and 335i. I'm not excited about the results from that dyno either, but it was recently fully torn apart.

We have a fully stock 135i coming in early next week to dyno and tune which will provie great results. Tomorrow evening I will be tuning a manual 135i with a FMIC and cat-back. Not perfect for results, but they will be telling of the power delta.

Cheers,
Rob

Ok - thanks for the prompt reply - and look forward to seeing more and more data as the tune matures. This is a very exciting product and its great to have you guys working on tunes for the BMWs

MikeNeo · 01-06-2011, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HondaGoneRogue

Can you do that with a flash? I thought it was only possible with MoTec, K-Pro, AEM etc. (Standalones)

i saw it as a feature on their site for the sti's accessport

01-05-2011, 11:12 PM	#29
chesterfan1230 Colonel Drives: a Bat Mobile :) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 2,398 iTrader: (8) Garage List 2010 BMW 135i [5.00]	What about Tuner codes and codes from Catless Exhausts? When will Stage 2 Be released? I have Intake, Catless Downpipes and will be doing an intercooler in the spring. __________________ What's a Mod?

01-05-2011, 11:22 PM	#32
onefastman Major General Drives: 2009 135i 2011 e92m dct Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 5,702 iTrader: (15)	Main concern is getting a good tune for those of us who push it a bit more. I.e. dp's, intake, fmic, meth, and no2 tuning. I wont use no2 but meth is a must. __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(1addicts.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.

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01-05-2011, 10:53 PM	#24
Thaddy Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 288 iTrader: (1)	Looking forward to seeing how the N55 tunes turn out! $900 is steep, but you the AP's are so easy to use, I like to think I'm paying a bit extra to save some time flashing back to stock for dealership visits. Also, keep in mind this isn't just a tune, it also can provide good real time information.

01-05-2011, 11:03 PM	#27
Shaggykjb_135I Private Drives: Sedonna Red 135 6spd. loaded. Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Central Texas Posts: 61 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	This ap in my opintion is just what I've been looking for. not a piggy back unit, not a flash with the loss of your oem rom. AND you have all the data log and real time reading in your hand and no mods to the intiror with gauges every where. perfect sleeper mod. Im sold..

01-05-2011, 11:19 PM	#31
Rob@Cobb Lieutenant Drives: 2011 E92 335i ///M Pack Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 468 iTrader: (0)	Hello Everyone, We're working to get another stock N54 135i on our home dyno in Austin ASAP. The dyno graph that you see is very conservative and made on our Portland Mustang dyno which was recently completely torn apart. Keeping in mind we can, and will, release updated maps as we go along. Simply pull the maps off our site, add them to the AP, flash and you have the latest tunes. Cheers, Rob

01-05-2011, 11:23 PM	#33
Shaggykjb_135I Private Drives: Sedonna Red 135 6spd. loaded. Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Central Texas Posts: 61 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	well take into account that the gain is only on pump gas with no supporting mods. as of now, I bet the only reason the 135 & 335 power differences are large is not just computing differences but mabey a differance in supporting systems like exhaust back pressure or a different intercooler temps. Just throwing ideas out.

01-05-2011, 11:27 PM	#36
Shaggykjb_135I Private Drives: Sedonna Red 135 6spd. loaded. Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Central Texas Posts: 61 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	bet the difference in alltitudes paid apart in numbers

01-05-2011, 11:31 PM	#37
Shaggykjb_135I Private Drives: Sedonna Red 135 6spd. loaded. Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Central Texas Posts: 61 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	just throwing it out their...i got a bone stock 135 and Im willin to donate time for a good cause..(and free dyno time )

01-05-2011, 11:50 PM	#40
MikeNeo BOSS Drives: Black/Red 135i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island, NY/Tampa, FL Posts: 76 iTrader: (0)	will the flat foot shift feature be available with this accessport? That would be a selling point for me.