BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-19-2011, 04:57 AM   #1
evolution42
1
Private First Class
 
evolution42's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 130i M-Sport (E87)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sydney

Posts: 155
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Installed! Quaife LSD for 130i

Hey all,

Had a Quaife LSD installed today by ALS Performance in Rydalmere. Andrew (the owner) was friendly, professional, knowledgeable and happy to chat about the car and other mechanical modifications for BMWs- I highly recommended ALS for anyone contemplating an LSD install or other mechanical work for BMWs.

As for the LSD, haven't had much of a chance to test it out (only on the drive home today), but noticed a definite increase in traction (esp. pulling out of junctions), hardly any intervention in DTC mode, and newfound levels of predictability/controllability with DSC off.

Will have a chance to fully test it towards the end of May, when I have another skidpan day at Eastern Creek. Will report back with pics and vids

Last edited by evolution42; 04-19-2011 at 05:49 AM.
evolution42 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 05:15 AM   #2
130iguy
6
I'm Riley, I'm awesome
 
Drives: E87 130i Hatch
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Qld, Australia

Posts: 688
iTrader: (0)

do you mind me asking roughly how much it cost?
130iguy is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 05:27 AM   #3
evolution42
1
Private First Class
 
evolution42's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 130i M-Sport (E87)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sydney

Posts: 155
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Sourced the diff from HP Autowerkes (US) for $1460, installation was approximately $400. Taking advantage of the exchange rate
evolution42 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 06:03 AM   #4
BMW86
89
Major General
 
Drives: 135i CLA45 AMG Ninja
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Australia

Posts: 8,956
iTrader: (0)

I'm glad I got the bolted setup. The labour is very reasonable too, do you know how many hours it took?
__________________
BMW 135i N54
MERCEDES CLA45 AMG
BMW86 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 06:12 AM   #5
evolution42
1
Private First Class
 
evolution42's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 130i M-Sport (E87)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sydney

Posts: 155
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Not sure exactly, but i'd say around 4hrs? Was your labour much more expensive?
evolution42 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 06:50 AM   #6
BMW86
89
Major General
 
Drives: 135i CLA45 AMG Ninja
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Australia

Posts: 8,956
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by evolution42 View Post
Not sure exactly, but i'd say around 4hrs? Was your labour much more expensive?
I've been told the bolted LSD takes around 6-7 hours to install so I would think at least 8-10 hours for one of our local workshops to do it. The average labour rate here is around $100 per hour though, hence why I asked because $400 is very reasonable.
__________________
BMW 135i N54
MERCEDES CLA45 AMG
BMW86 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 07:02 AM   #7
dk130i
1
Private First Class
 
Drives: Blue car
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sydney

Posts: 134
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by evolution42 View Post
Sourced the diff from HP Autowerkes (US) for $1460, installation was approximately $400. Taking advantage of the exchange rate
That is a good price for a great mod.
You will have lots of fun on the skidpan.

Who is the EC day with?
dk130i is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 07:18 AM   #8
evolution42
1
Private First Class
 
evolution42's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 130i M-Sport (E87)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sydney

Posts: 155
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by dk130i View Post
That is a good price for a great mod.
You will have lots of fun on the skidpan.

Who is the EC day with?
Driving Solutions, as part of their Stage 2 course. I've done it before, bit of theory/ABS stops/handbrake turns before a figure of 8 is laid out and the fun really begins

Was thinking of doing their drift school course, but couldn't justify it being the same price for half the time (5-9pm). Also, I'd rather drive in daylight than at night
evolution42 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 07:30 AM   #9
130iWanted
1
Captain Slow
 
130iWanted's Avatar
 
Drives: 2006 Le Mans Blue 130i
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 149
iTrader: (0)

Nice car Anthony, pretty undercarriage too haha (I had a peep)

Ran into evolution42 at ALS this arvo as I was getting mine serviced there
130iWanted is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 08:07 PM   #10
minijet
4
Lieutenant
 
minijet's Avatar
 
Drives: SOLD…Ex F30 328i in Tanz
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Australia

Posts: 487
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by evolution42 View Post
Driving Solutions, as part of their Stage 2 course. I've done it before, bit of theory/ABS stops/handbrake turns before a figure of 8 is laid out and the fun really begins

Was thinking of doing their drift school course, but couldn't justify it being the same price for half the time (5-9pm). Also, I'd rather drive in daylight than at night
Good job on the Quaife!

as for the DS stage 2 day. I will see you there as i have signed up as well!
2nd time too..
__________________
minijet is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 11:04 PM   #11
evolution42
1
Private First Class
 
evolution42's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 130i M-Sport (E87)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sydney

Posts: 155
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Awesome, see you there minijet!

Do you have the Quaife as well? If not, is it easy to hold the 135i in a constant radius power oversteer with the e-LSD? Although I've never tried, I think it would be pretty difficult in the 130i with an open diff, hence my purchase of the Quaife before the skidpan day :P
evolution42 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 11:48 PM   #12
BMW86
89
Major General
 
Drives: 135i CLA45 AMG Ninja
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Australia

Posts: 8,956
iTrader: (0)

OP, any particular reason why you went with Quaife over the Wavetrac?
__________________
BMW 135i N54
MERCEDES CLA45 AMG
BMW86 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-19-2011, 11:59 PM   #13
evolution42
1
Private First Class
 
evolution42's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 130i M-Sport (E87)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sydney

Posts: 155
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
No particular reason- Quaife just seemed like good value, reputable, reliable and a popular choice
evolution42 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 12:04 AM   #14
BMW86
89
Major General
 
Drives: 135i CLA45 AMG Ninja
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Australia

Posts: 8,956
iTrader: (0)

You're right, Quaife has been around a lot longer and are reputable. I'm having a tough time deciding. The only difference is the Wavetrac has the additional friction plate to aid traction when one wheel is unloaded or in low traction conditions such as dirt, snow or ice. Not sure if I need that feature though.
__________________
BMW 135i N54
MERCEDES CLA45 AMG
BMW86 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 12:29 AM   #15
TimMc
18
Lieutenant Colonel
 
TimMc's Avatar
 
Drives: 135i SCT N54
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Posts: 1,863
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMW86 View Post
The only difference is the Wavetrac has the additional friction plate to aid traction when one wheel is unloaded or in low traction conditions such as dirt, snow or ice.
Isn't this what all LSDs do Vinney? How is the Wavetrac different?
__________________
Driving - Man 135 (LeMans/Black). BMW Perf SW & SSK. Quaife LSD, KW V2s, Ground Control camber plates, M3 front Control Arms & SB, Helix IC, AR DPs, PROcede V5, ER CP, Forge DVs, BMS OCC, Setrab OC, P3 Gauge.
Riding - ZX14R Kwaka, Avanti Aggressor, Malvern Star Equipe, Mini Mal.
Proudly from the Shire.
TimMc is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 12:36 AM   #16
evolution42
1
Private First Class
 
evolution42's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 130i M-Sport (E87)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sydney

Posts: 155
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by BMW86 View Post
You're right, Quaife has been around a lot longer and are reputable. I'm having a tough time deciding. The only difference is the Wavetrac has the additional friction plate to aid traction when one wheel is unloaded or in low traction conditions such as dirt, snow or ice. Not sure if I need that feature though.
According to Andrew at ALS, the Quaife is ideal for street use as the lockup is progressive and its silent in its operation. If you plan to do alot of trackwork, he recommended a more aggressive clutch-pack LSD. I think the Wavetrac would be a good option for street use- what are the going rates for one of those?

If you're willing to wait until the end of May, I'll have videos (both outside and in-car) showing what the Quaife is capable of on the skidpan
evolution42 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 12:36 AM   #17
BMW86
89
Major General
 
Drives: 135i CLA45 AMG Ninja
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Australia

Posts: 8,956
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TimMc View Post
Isn't this what all LSDs do Vinney? How is the Wavetrac different?
I believe it's the extra friction plate. Harold from HP told me the Wavetrac looks better on paper for this reason although in reality he doubts there would be any difference.
__________________
BMW 135i N54
MERCEDES CLA45 AMG
BMW86 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 12:38 AM   #18
BMW86
89
Major General
 
Drives: 135i CLA45 AMG Ninja
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Australia

Posts: 8,956
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by evolution42 View Post
According to Andrew at ALS, the Quaife is ideal for street use as the lockup is progressive and its silent in its operation. If you plan to do alot of trackwork, he recommended a more aggressive clutch-pack LSD. I think the Wavetrac would be a good option for street use- what are the going rates for one of those?

If you're willing to wait until the end of May, I'll have videos (both outside and in-car) showing what the Quaife is capable of on the skidpan
I think the difference is around $100-$150.
__________________
BMW 135i N54
MERCEDES CLA45 AMG
BMW86 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 12:40 AM   #19
Liub
7
Captain
 
Drives: E82
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posts: 772
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMW86 View Post
You're right, Quaife has been around a lot longer and are reputable. I'm having a tough time deciding. The only difference is the Wavetrac has the additional friction plate to aid traction when one wheel is unloaded or in low traction conditions such as dirt, snow or ice. Not sure if I need that feature though.
Threadjack - V, have you got a few quotes yet? What are the cheapest prices you get get either units shipped to Brissy?
Liub is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 12:43 AM   #20
BMW86
89
Major General
 
Drives: 135i CLA45 AMG Ninja
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Australia

Posts: 8,956
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liub View Post
Threadjack - V, have you got a few quotes yet? What are the cheapest prices you get get either units shipped to Brissy?
Yeah mate I've got a few prices, not a great deal of discounting to buy 1 but there are discounts if we purchase multiple LSD's. Shipping is around $150 for 1 bolted.
__________________
BMW 135i N54
MERCEDES CLA45 AMG
BMW86 is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 12:48 AM   #21
130iguy
6
I'm Riley, I'm awesome
 
Drives: E87 130i Hatch
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Qld, Australia

Posts: 688
iTrader: (0)

wouldnt it be more worthwhile to spend the extra $150 then? also this thread is causing me to seriously consider spending the money i had set aside for tires for when my new wheels arrive...
130iguy is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 12:51 AM   #22
130iguy
6
I'm Riley, I'm awesome
 
Drives: E87 130i Hatch
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Qld, Australia

Posts: 688
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMW86 View Post
Yeah mate I've got a few prices, not a great deal of discounting to buy 1 but there are discounts if we purchase multiple LSD's. Shipping is around $150 for 1 bolted.
let me know if you want to do a "group buy".. haha this is soooo tempting
130iguy is offline   Australia
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
130i, diff, limited slip differential, lsd, quaife

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:19 PM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST