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      04-20-2011, 12:51 AM   #23
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Isn't this what all LSDs do Vinney? How is the Wavetrac different?
Clutch-pack LSD's will do this, but the Quaife is a helical (torque-biasing) diff which transfers power as long as there is any amount of grip on the slipping wheel. If one wheel is completely in the air however, it won't be able to transfer any torque to the wheel on the ground.
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wouldnt it be more worthwhile to spend the extra $150 then? also this thread is causing me to seriously consider spending the money i had set aside for tires for when my new wheels arrive...
On paper the Wavetrac is better, the only thing going against it is it's relatively new and hasn't proven itself yet. The Quaife is more expensive but has a reputation for long term reliability and noise free operation. There's not much in it if you ask me.
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Everything I've read about the Quaife has been awesome, first I'm hearing of the Wavetrac.

A friend of my was saying he had an uprated one on a supercharged E46 and said it was awesome.

I almost got one but the lack of any good diff shops and the utter uselessness of the dealer here convinced me otherwise.
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      04-20-2011, 01:09 AM   #26
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Awesome, see you there minijet!

Do you have the Quaife as well? If not, is it easy to hold the 135i in a constant radius power oversteer with the e-LSD? Although I've never tried, I think it would be pretty difficult in the 130i with an open diff, hence my purchase of the Quaife before the skidpan day :P
Er.. i may or may not have a quaife

and for those of you looking to source a quaife from overseas. if $1400+ is the benchmark for the quaife i would recommend just speaking frankly with Andrew at southern BM as his prices are actually not too far off from the above price.

i think you just need to consider if that small differential in price is enough to pay for the hassle of dealing with an american dealer if something goes wrong... and the extra costs of shipping it back if need be...
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Clutch-pack LSD's will do this, but the Quaife is a helical (torque-biasing) diff which transfers power as long as there is any amount of grip on the slipping wheel. If one wheel is completely in the air however, it won't be able to transfer any torque to the wheel on the ground.
Sounds a bit useless if this is the case - and from what I've read I know Quaife's aren't useless. I certainly understand clutch type LSDs but I'll have to read up on helical units it appears.

With my open diff there are times when I turn into my steep/sharp driveway & I've got one rear wheel in the air and no traction, even with the e-diff trying to do it's thing. I then have to reverse back and get a run-up. At the track the e-diff thingy has overheated the rear brakes and brought up a dash alarm.

Still looking for a cheapish way to get hold of an LSD for my welded diff type manual 135. Can source from Andrew for ~$4.5k + freight each way + fitting. Can source cheaper from the US but looks like I'd also need a new tailshaft as I'm told the US diff is different from ours. Anybody else with a manual 135 been down this path?
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      04-20-2011, 06:02 AM   #28
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I haven't read past the first few posts here, but people, please, ,show the love, why not ask me what i can do, why import, i'm the dealer for Quaife, why not at least ask me what i can do. If you have a few guys ready to go, i'll see what i can do. I understand the AUD is good but why not give me a go. I have one 130i Quaife left in stock and ready to ship and a 135i built diff with Quaife ready to go. I just sold a few recently. Geez, tough crowd in here sometimes, i'm not feeling the love much from you guys. Ok send me your interest and the best quotes you can do landed including GST and costs and i'll crunch some numbers. If i can buy 5 or more than i get a better discount so let me know if this is something you guys want.
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Er.. i may or may not have a quaife

and for those of you looking to source a quaife from overseas. if $1400+ is the benchmark for the quaife i would recommend just speaking frankly with Andrew at southern BM as his prices are actually not too far off from the above price.

i think you just need to consider if that small differential in price is enough to pay for the hassle of dealing with an american dealer if something goes wrong... and the extra costs of shipping it back if need be...
Thank you.
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Sounds a bit useless if this is the case - and from what I've read I know Quaife's aren't useless. I certainly understand clutch type LSDs but I'll have to read up on helical units it appears.

With my open diff there are times when I turn into my steep/sharp driveway & I've got one rear wheel in the air and no traction, even with the e-diff trying to do it's thing. I then have to reverse back and get a run-up. At the track the e-diff thingy has overheated the rear brakes and brought up a dash alarm.

Still looking for a cheapish way to get hold of an LSD for my welded diff type manual 135. Can source from Andrew for ~$4.5k + freight each way + fitting. Can source cheaper from the US but looks like I'd also need a new tailshaft as I'm told the US diff is different from ours. Anybody else with a manual 135 been down this path?
Hi TimMc, The rear wheel going up is worse with upgraded sway bars as well. I have an option for you very very soon for a 135i welded diff. I have one coming up second hand as it is being taken out of a car as he is taking his 1M soon. Email me if you like as he is in Sydney, you and him may be able to do a deal directly, i can facilitate that if you need. So send me an email if you are ready. Thanks for your support.
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      04-20-2011, 06:25 AM   #31
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ok, so i am annoyed.

Anyhow, I have just been on the phone to UK and i've pleaded my case. Let's get 5 or more 130i Quaife orders and we'll work with that to get a better discount structure and then i can pass it on.

If you guys tell me what you want the i can only do my very best.
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      04-20-2011, 07:37 AM   #32
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Hi TimMc, The rear wheel going up is worse with upgraded sway bars as well. I have an option for you very very soon for a 135i welded diff. I have one coming up second hand as it is being taken out of a car as he is taking his 1M soon. Email me if you like as he is in Sydney, you and him may be able to do a deal directly, i can facilitate that if you need. So send me an email if you are ready. Thanks for your support.
I've only upgraded my front bar so far, mainly because of this.

Sorry you're annoyed Andrew and I certainly was going to get back to you before I bought elsewhere. I'd MUCH rather buy local if I can and would rather support those who already look after us. 2nd hand LSD sounds like a good option and I get down to Sydney reasonably often. I'll send you another email.

Anybody else keen to get in on a group buy through Andrew though?
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      04-20-2011, 07:44 AM   #33
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Andrew- love to share the love with you. I did obtain a quote from you and had it been in the ballpark, I wouldíve definitely chosen to buy locally from you. In the end, I went with the most economical option- I hope you can understand my decision.

Having said that, if you are able to source a bulk discount, there seem to be many 130i/135i owners on this thread who are now genuinely interested in the Quaife. Iím sure they'd be happy to go for it.

Guys, this is a great opportunity Andrew may provide here.. bulk discount, strong dollar, great product... donít hold back! Have an early Christmas present
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      04-20-2011, 05:42 PM   #34
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HP Autowerkes tell me it is $1450 USD for a Quaife for 130i. How much was your freight,customs, gst, local charge break up etc. I'd like to know your landed Aussie cost please, if that is not too much trouble. I'll ask Harold as well. We might get to the bottom of this pretty soon.

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HP Autowerkes tell me it is $1450 USD for a Quaife for 130i. How much was your freight,customs, gst, local charge break up etc. I'd like to know your landed Aussie cost please, if that is not too much trouble. I'll ask Harold as well. We might get to the bottom of this pretty soon.

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I was quoted 1305USD for the diff and 154USD for shipping to my door
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Anybody else keen to get in on a group buy through Andrew though?
Yup
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Hi guys,

would an LSD help to improve the driving experience on a road car? I would lo e to have one installed if it would add to the everyday driving experience.

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      04-21-2011, 08:48 AM   #38
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would an LSD help to improve the driving experience on a road car? I would lo e to have one installed if it would add to the everyday driving experience.

Joe
If you find the 130i has a lack of traction (especially in the wet) during your everyday driving, or you're fond of power oversteer, then the Quaife would definitely improve the experience If you barely ever have DSC/DTC intervention, then it's questionable whether it'd be worth investing in.
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      04-22-2011, 08:01 PM   #39
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Hi Andrew,

I would potentially be interested in a Quaife. I'm a 2008 135i and traction is always an issue. I consider taking my other car out when it's raining outside and I have new sticky tyres.
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I'm interested in the Quaife LSD, is this group buy option still open/happening?
Happy to buy locally if the price gets close to HP.
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The Quaife LSD units of 130i Manual and Automatic cars are now $1650. The LSD unit comes on its own in a box ready to be installed into your housing. The process is that you would go into your chosen shop, they would remove your diff assembly, disassemble to diff, install the Quaife and then reinstall into the car. In Sydney ALS Performance in Rydalmere (0296800773) do this process for approx $480 plus workshop sundries.
(There may be some variances, so please email me the last 7 digits of your VIN and i will be sure to check it out for you.)

The 135i Automatic cars ($1650) have the same process as above.
(There may be some variances, so please email me the last 7 digits of your VIN and i will be sure to check it out for you.)

The 135i Manual cars after 3/08 have a welded crown wheel and require a lot more work internally. To short cut this, i do the modifications required to the diffs and sell a complete change over differential. All you would need to do is unbolt yours, and bolt this one in. Labour is minimal. You then return your diff to me and i'll rebuild it for the next user. This unit is $3500 change over.
(There may be some variances, so please email me the last 7 digits of your VIN and i will be sure to check it out for you.)

135i DCT are different again-VIN is required

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Sounds like a good deal Andrew, I am seriously considering this as my next mod before doing meth as I really do struggle at the drags even with my existing power of 260+rwkw. Adding HP is not difficult and it really does turn into unusable power if you dont add the correct supporting mods. What I do find difficult is running a sub 2 second 60ft! so I say bring on the LSD!
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      05-18-2011, 11:50 PM   #43
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The Quaife LSD units of 130i Manual and Automatic cars are now $1650.




that is a very attractive price, i'm going to sit down and think long and hard about what i want to do

suspension
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or LSD

all cost about the same, can only afford one atm
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The 135i Automatic cars ($1650) have the same process as above.
(There may be some variances, so please email me the last 7 digits of your VIN and i will be sure to check it out for you.)
ARGH!!!@#!@# Andrew!!!!
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