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Luca335 · 04-04-2013, 01:57 AM

According to this article, 135is can do 0 to 60 in 4.6s, so how fast can a 1M go?

Below the article an 135is owner claimed he did it in 4.5s in winter tires and 4.2 in performance tires, really??????

If a stock 135is can do that than the 1M should be close to a Ferrari Italia lol.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...aven-bmw-135is

Robin_NL · 04-04-2013, 02:47 AM

Imo a car is more than just accelleration in a straight line. Much more.

4.5

A Radical/GTR/RS200/LaFerrari etc. on a track also benefit from their ability to take those bends at higher speeds than most of the cars. In a way, so does a 1M.

Cheers
Robin

Luca335 · 04-04-2013, 02:51 AM

I agreed. I just thought those figures were a bit off IMHO.

Pete_vB · 04-04-2013, 08:10 AM

It's all about the surface, tires and launch. Given the right combo, sure.

I liked this quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Road & Track

Our complaints about the original 135i remain: It could use more suspension travel, it understeers way more than we'd like, and it desperately needs a limited-slip differential to tame the one-tire fire you get in tight corners. Those problems are easily fixed by purchasing one of the 2011 1-series M Coupes that BMW sold in the United States. Good luck finding someone stupid enough to part with theirs (only 739 were sold, and most didn't linger in a showroom); in the meantime, the 135is is as close as your BMW dealer currently comes to selling one.

HERR FSTIR · 04-04-2013, 01:23 PM

Those problems are easily fixed by purchasing one of the 2011 1-series M Coupes that BMW sold in the United States. Good luck finding someone stupid enough to part with theirs (only 739 were sold, and most didn't linger in a showroom);

Awesome quote.

M3 Adjuster · 04-04-2013, 02:02 PM

Those problems are easily fixed by purchasing one of the 2011 1-series M Coupes that BMW sold in the United States. Good luck finding someone stupid enough to part with theirs (only 739 were sold, and most didn't linger in a showroom);

Axelf · 04-04-2013, 02:44 PM

Those problems are easily fixed by purchasing one of the 2011 1-series M Coupes that BMW sold in the United States. Good luck finding someone stupid enough to part with theirs (only 739 were sold, and most didn't linger in a showroom);

Rikx1M · 04-04-2013, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luca335

According to this article, 135is can do 0 to 60 in 4.6s, so how fast can a 1M go?

I've routinely run 4.4 but twice had a 4.1 0-60 as recorded on my P3 gauge

mb135is · 04-04-2013, 04:58 PM

The 135is is quick, but it doesn't compare to the 1M. Y'all are safe.

M3takesNYC · 04-05-2013, 01:40 AM

Unless you have awd, there is a limit to a 0-60 time and when you hit a certain amount of power, its often even harder to achieve a really low run due to traction issues. A ferrari 458 and 1m with a great launch would probably be relatively close to 60 but the quarter mile or a rolling start and it would not even be in the same strasphere. So 0-60 is really really decieving measure of how fast a car is but rather how well it launches out of the hole or how well it puts the power it does have down to the ground without losing traction

Robin_NL · 04-05-2013, 05:47 AM

IRL being just as fast or even faster (straight line and bends) than an E9x M3 is also a benefit.

Cheers
Robin(ex E90 M3)

SpencerMH · 04-05-2013, 07:05 AM

Aren't we looking at pure marketing? Same chassis, relatively similar motor, but the is has less tire, less power, less suspension(probably a neutral factor here because the 1m isn't tuned for a hole shot) and an open diff? There is zero chance its faster, and its only advantage may be tire compound which I doubt anybody here is still running ps2's and if they are, they plan to switch when the time comes, any gain in tire compound is more than surpassed by the diffs effects. Just stupid on the marketing teams part, the disparity is there and it's obvious that they're picking an choosing numbers out of a hat to achieve their goals.

Klepper1 · 04-05-2013, 10:11 AM

The 135is is a great car! I have both. I drive the 1M and my wife drives the 135is.

We actually got her's first. I was driving an e9x M3 at the time, and we picked up the 135is for her. After driving the 135is for a while, I was starting to enjoy it better than my M3. I thought to myself, "Gee, if only they made this in an 'M' it would be the perfect car."

Thats when I found out about the 1M, and the rest is history!

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HeelToe · 04-05-2013, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete_vB

It's all about the surface, tires and launch. Given the right combo, sure.

I liked this quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Road & Track

Our complaints about the original 135i remain: It could use more suspension travel, it understeers way more than we'd like, and it desperately needs a limited-slip differential to tame the one-tire fire you get in tight corners. Those problems are easily fixed by purchasing one of the 2011 1-series M Coupes that BMW sold in the United States. Good luck finding someone stupid enough to part with theirs (only 739 were sold, and most didn't linger in a showroom); in the meantime, the 135is is as close as your BMW dealer currently comes to selling one.

Ordered a 1m and didn't get one. So ordered a 135is and own it. My lsd goes in next week so i can check that one off. Regarding the understeer, I've already addressed that too. Non existent. Dinan camber plates, eibach sway bars, bmw perf springs, and 235/245 tires front and rear.

It's not a 1m and never will be. It does address their main complaints and is great fun.

///1M · 04-05-2013, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klepper1

The 135is is a great car! I have both. I drive the 1M and my wife drives the 135is.

We actually got her's first. I was driving an e9x M3 at the time, and we picked up the 135is for her. After driving the 135is for a while, I was starting to enjoy it better than my M3. I thought to myself, "Gee, if only they made this in an 'M' it would be the perfect car."

Thats when I found out about the 1M, and the rest is history!

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Klepper1,

Awesome that you own both!

Is the 135is a DCT?

Is it 'better' in any aspects?

Which do you prefer to drive?

Klepper1 · 04-05-2013, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///1M

Klepper1,

Awesome that you own both!

Is the 135is a DCT?

Is it 'better' in any aspects?

Which do you prefer to drive?

The 135is is a 6MT. I prefer the 1M to the 135is, but my wife prefers the 135is. She says it's "easier to drive", which in some respects, I agree with. The clutch is lighter, and so is the steering. The N55 is not as powerful (although close), but is smoother. The interior in the 135is seems much quieter. Their is no exhaust drone at ALL. The 135is exhaust is fantastic! Something about the combination of the N55 and the BMW PE makes it sound incredible. If I could get my 1M to sound that good I would be very happy.

The 1M is my favourite BMW that I have owned (including 325i, 550i, X5, 335i, M3), and the 135is is my second favourite.

///1M · 04-05-2013, 11:31 AM

Great insights - thank you!

04-04-2013, 01:57 AM	#1
Luca335 Second Lieutenant Drives: AW 1M Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 204 iTrader: (0)	135is 0 to 60 in 4.6 seconds really? According to this article, 135is can do 0 to 60 in 4.6s, so how fast can a 1M go? Below the article an 135is owner claimed he did it in 4.5s in winter tires and 4.2 in performance tires, really?????? If a stock 135is can do that than the 1M should be close to a Ferrari Italia lol. http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...aven-bmw-135is
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04-04-2013, 02:02 PM	#6
M3 Adjuster Colonel Drives: 1988 M3 gone .. 1M HERE!! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 2,686 iTrader: (0)	Those problems are easily fixed by purchasing one of the 2011 1-series M Coupes that BMW sold in the United States. Good luck finding someone stupid enough to part with theirs (only 739 were sold, and most didn't linger in a showroom); __________________ Lone Star BMW CCA Chapter president, Chief Driving Instructor

04-04-2013, 02:44 PM	#7
Axelf Second Lieutenant Drives: VO 1M !!!!!! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Durham Posts: 238 iTrader: (2)	Those problems are easily fixed by purchasing one of the 2011 1-series M Coupes that BMW sold in the United States. Good luck finding someone stupid enough to part with theirs (only 739 were sold, and most didn't linger in a showroom); __________________ /// 1M V O

04-04-2013, 04:58 PM	#9
mb135is First Lieutenant Drives: '13 135is Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 377 iTrader: (0)	The 135is is quick, but it doesn't compare to the 1M. Y'all are safe. __________________ E82 '13 135is - Space Gray/Coral Red, 6 MT, Heated Seats, 50% tint, clear bra, BMW Perf. Grilles

04-05-2013, 07:05 AM	#12
SpencerMH Private First Class Drives: 1M Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Fl Posts: 172 iTrader: (2)	Aren't we looking at pure marketing? Same chassis, relatively similar motor, but the is has less tire, less power, less suspension(probably a neutral factor here because the 1m isn't tuned for a hole shot) and an open diff? There is zero chance its faster, and its only advantage may be tire compound which I doubt anybody here is still running ps2's and if they are, they plan to switch when the time comes, any gain in tire compound is more than surpassed by the diffs effects. Just stupid on the marketing teams part, the disparity is there and it's obvious that they're picking an choosing numbers out of a hat to achieve their goals. __________________ BSM 1M, JB4 G5 ISO, DCI, N55 Mid Pipes, Evolve Race Midpipe Back Exhaust, Stett CP w/ Tial BOV, H&R Springs, CDV, Performance Steering Wheel, Huge Tires.

04-04-2013, 02:47 AM	#2
Robin_NL S0THPAW Drives: AW 1M + N55 mids Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands, Europe Posts: 4,210 iTrader: (0)	Imo a car is more than just accelleration in a straight line. Much more. 4.5 A Radical/GTR/RS200/LaFerrari etc. on a track also benefit from their ability to take those bends at higher speeds than most of the cars. In a way, so does a 1M. Cheers Robin

04-04-2013, 02:51 AM	#3
Luca335 Second Lieutenant Drives: AW 1M Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 204 iTrader: (0)	I agreed. I just thought those figures were a bit off IMHO.

04-04-2013, 01:23 PM	#5
HERR FSTIR Captain Drives: VO 1M, E92 335x, E61 530x Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 669 iTrader: (0)	Those problems are easily fixed by purchasing one of the 2011 1-series M Coupes that BMW sold in the United States. Good luck finding someone stupid enough to part with theirs (only 739 were sold, and most didn't linger in a showroom); Awesome quote.

04-05-2013, 01:40 AM	#10
M3takesNYC Banned Drives: m3 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NYC Posts: 426 iTrader: (0)	Unless you have awd, there is a limit to a 0-60 time and when you hit a certain amount of power, its often even harder to achieve a really low run due to traction issues. A ferrari 458 and 1m with a great launch would probably be relatively close to 60 but the quarter mile or a rolling start and it would not even be in the same strasphere. So 0-60 is really really decieving measure of how fast a car is but rather how well it launches out of the hole or how well it puts the power it does have down to the ground without losing traction

04-05-2013, 05:47 AM	#11
Robin_NL S0THPAW Drives: AW 1M + N55 mids Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands, Europe Posts: 4,210 iTrader: (0)	IRL being just as fast or even faster (straight line and bends) than an E9x M3 is also a benefit. Cheers Robin(ex E90 M3)

04-05-2013, 10:11 AM	#13
Klepper1 First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 1M Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 321 iTrader: (6) Garage List 2013 BMW 135is [0.00] 2011 BMW 1M [0.00]	The 135is is a great car! I have both. I drive the 1M and my wife drives the 135is. We actually got her's first. I was driving an e9x M3 at the time, and we picked up the 135is for her. After driving the 135is for a while, I was starting to enjoy it better than my M3. I thought to myself, "Gee, if only they made this in an 'M' it would be the perfect car." Thats when I found out about the 1M, and the rest is history!

04-05-2013, 11:31 AM	#17
///1M Lieutenant Drives: On a good day, AW 1M coupe Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: between Indiana and the alley Posts: 531 iTrader: (0)	Great insights - thank you!

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