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      11-25-2011, 08:00 PM   #243
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jft: Another Swede with an AW 1M! Mine will be delivered in January. I did buy Nokian Hakka 7 for the original rims. Don't like the 270M and the Michelin Alpin is the European friction tires. Not very good if we get ice/snow. Save a bunch of money to skip winter wheels. ;-)
My worry is that the original (rears) will be too wide for winter use. BMW Sweden also lists the option of Pirelli winter tires for 270M - do you know if they are they are better than the Michelins? Mine is a company car and they will foot the bill for the compulsory winter tires!
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      11-25-2011, 08:00 PM   #244
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I ended up with Miro 111 since vmr was out of stock. I couldn't be happier. Bought them at **********s. 18x8.5 et 20 in stock and shipped in 2 days. Looks like a great wheel.
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      11-26-2011, 08:38 AM   #245
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jft: Another Swede with an AW 1M! Mine will be delivered in January. I did buy Nokian Hakka 7 for the original rims. Don't like the 270M and the Michelin Alpin is the European friction tires. Not very good if we get ice/snow. Save a bunch of money to skip winter wheels. ;-)
What size Hakka 7 did you go for? I couldn't find the right size. Thanks!
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      11-26-2011, 03:09 PM   #246
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I did go for Hakka 7 in the size:
255/40/19 for the back and 235/35/19 for the front. Not exact fit but the closest possible and should fit good on the original wheels.
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      11-26-2011, 04:18 PM   #247
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Newbie Question - not sure this is the right place to ask?

I'm getting my 1M next week or the week after depending on when it arrives at the dealership. It's cold here today... 39 degrees F. I have an awd with snow tires for the bad stuff, but what temperatures would you consider taking the stock tires out in. I don't want to wreck it on the drive home.

Question: What is the lowest temperature that would be good/safe to drive with stock tires? (assuming dry roads)
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      11-26-2011, 04:21 PM   #248
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I'm getting my 1M next week or the week after depending on when it arrives at the dealership. It's cold here today... 39 degrees F. I have an awd with snow tires for the bad stuff, but what temperatures would you consider taking the stock tires out in. I don't want to wreck it on the drive home.

Question: What is the lowest temperature that would be good/safe to drive with stock tires? (assuming dry roads)
I would say right around 40. They start getting hard and worthless as it gets below that.
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      11-26-2011, 06:37 PM   #249
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I'm getting my 1M next week or the week after depending on when it arrives at the dealership. It's cold here today... 39 degrees F. I have an awd with snow tires for the bad stuff, but what temperatures would you consider taking the stock tires out in. I don't want to wreck it on the drive home.

Question: What is the lowest temperature that would be good/safe to drive with stock tires? (assuming dry roads)
Winter tires start to outperform all season/summer tires around 40 but you will be fine with summer tires as long as the road is dry even at 30. I drove with the stock pilot sport 2 highway speed no problem. You definitely don't want to drive over any amount of snow with the summers tho. You will be sliding every where and have an extremely hard time get moving or stopping.
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      11-27-2011, 04:24 PM   #250
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Hey has any body used this setup and if so how does it feel/fit? And would it work?

245/40/18 front
245/45/18 rear

235/45/18 All round?
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      11-28-2011, 09:45 AM   #251
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Michelin North Z-ICE studded tyres... 235/35-19 front and 255/35-19 rear.

Warning: if you order original sizes wintertyre, its not suites for front. I had 255/35 on front and was it too big. 245/35 doesnt suites also well but 235/35 suites ok.
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      11-28-2011, 08:27 PM   #252
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Thank you

Thanks for the response Kruger and theshiningnova and those tires from Finland look AWESOME!
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      11-29-2011, 03:05 PM   #253
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japi: Nice! Its almost the same setup that I have ordered. I have ordered Nokian Hakka 7 in the same size. Only difference is 255/40/19 in the back. How is the sound on spikes? Are the Michelin quiet?
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      11-29-2011, 09:09 PM   #254
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Snow in the 7 day forecast and these (tirerack special) just arrived today.

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      11-30-2011, 07:57 AM   #255
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japi: Nice! Its almost the same setup that I have ordered. I have ordered Nokian Hakka 7 in the same size. Only difference is 255/40/19 in the back. How is the sound on spikes? Are the Michelin quiet?
Michelin suites well under the car and sounds are quite quiet. Biggest problem is behaviour of the car which is like snake

I think its better when we got snow and colder air. Wintry air makes better for tires...
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      11-30-2011, 09:19 AM   #256
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Snow in the 7 day forecast and these (tirerack special) just arrived today.

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Sport A7's? I just ordered the same thing (18x8 ET20 all around) with 235/40/18 Dunlop Winter Sport 3Ds mounted! Fingers crossed they fit as advertised.
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Sport A7's? I just ordered the same thing (18x8 ET20 all around) with 235/40/18 Dunlop Winter Sport 3Ds mounted! Fingers crossed they fit as advertised.
I went wider in the back as advertised on their website. I also have the Dunlop 3D's which were great on my past 135i.
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      11-30-2011, 11:21 PM   #258
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I did go for Hakka 7 in the size:
255/40/19 for the back and 235/35/19 for the front. Not exact fit but the closest possible and should fit good on the original wheels.
I think that I am going to try the same set up. Any others using winter tires on the original rims?
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I think that I am going to try the same set up. Any others using winter tires on the original rims?
I actually wanted to use winter tires on original rims. Too bad it seems that only Pirelli makes winter tires(Sottozero 270 Serie II) of the exact same size as the original Pilot Sport2 and they are on back order country(USA) wide and won't be available until Feb next year.
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      12-01-2011, 11:15 AM   #260
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Dunlop Wintersports are a good tire.
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      12-01-2011, 11:15 AM   #261
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I went wider in the back as advertised on their website. I also have the Dunlop 3D's which were great on my past 135i.
Gotcha. I went with 18x8's all around so I can rotate the wheels front to rear. Something tells me the rears will be worn faster than the fronts.
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      12-01-2011, 09:42 PM   #262
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I actually wanted to use winter tires on original rims. Too bad it seems that only Pirelli makes winter tires(Sottozero 270 Serie II) of the exact same size as the original Pilot Sport2 and they are on back order country(USA) wide and won't be available until Feb next year.
Wow in Canada those tires are $500 each. For $2000 I can buy wheels (rims) and tires. I think I will have to go with not quite the exact size.
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      12-02-2011, 01:15 AM   #263
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theshiningnova: The setup I go for is very close to the original size and will fit the original wheels very well. You don't need to have exactly the same size as the summer rubber. You can see on Japis pictures that its a really good fit.

The Pirellis are very expensive and not good in snow. (if you have snow) Michelin also have a non spiked central european type winter tire like the Pirelli. Cheaper.
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Another note is that I think that just like Japi says: the real winter rubber with spikes will be a bit soft over 7 degrees celsius. When under 0 they will start to feel better. But winter rubber in the back on 255 with spikes will not be the optimal in handling. ;-) On the other hand I don't want to drive in icy conditions without spikes with this car. The roads I use to go to work are always a bit icy. If you don't have that winter conditions you should be fine with the central european high speed winter rubber. The perform best over 7 degrees celsius. Better handling on dry or wet but much worse on snow/ice.

The reason I go for my setup is that I don't want to buy another set of wheels just for the winter. Always a loss when selling the car and most options don't look good. Refitting winter rubber on the original wheels was the cheapest solution for me. Still need to sell my BMW performance wheels from my current 1-series convertible. (summer setup and selling it with the original BMW wheels that I used for winter on that car). Kind of tired of selling wheels! *laugh*
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