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      06-10-2011, 12:02 PM   #23
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Sorry Jason, I thought the reason the 1M would be removed is due to the N54? The 335is which also uses the N54 is still present in My2012, how can that be?
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      06-10-2011, 12:04 PM   #24
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i thought it was pretty clear production would end in December 2011, my understanding is the N54 motor will not pass US emissions hence the 2011 model year and only be built for 2011
If the S65 will, this makes zero sense. This story insists on persisting though.
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      06-10-2011, 12:04 PM   #25
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please don't feed me more false hope, thanks

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if the source is known, though, i'm very interested.
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      06-10-2011, 12:11 PM   #27
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Sorry Jason, I thought the reason the 1M would be removed is due to the N54? The 335is which also uses the N54 is still present in My2012, how can that be?
Put it this way, if customers knew that BMW had to run MY2011 late in the year to complete a production year, who would buy a MY2011 in November or December if they knew that the MY2012 was just around the corner for spring?

I guess this is what separates the men from the boys. I'm willing to wait.
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      06-10-2011, 12:13 PM   #28
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So, I guess they got a return and profit in just one year.
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      06-10-2011, 12:15 PM   #29
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Put it this way, if customers knew that BMW had to run MY2011 late in the year to complete a production year, who would buy a MY2011 in November or December if they knew that the MY2012 was just around the corner for spring?

I guess this is what separates the men from the boys. I'm willing to wait.
seriously?

"Well I was considering buying the 1M, but since the production year sounds old, I will pass"

Did you hear that BMW? Better act fast, 1Ms are going to sit on the lot...
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      06-10-2011, 12:20 PM   #30
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Looks like 1M finishes this year and it's replacement the new M2 won't arrive until 2013/14.
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      06-10-2011, 12:21 PM   #31
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

need more time to make money
LOL!! there had better be the M2, otherwise I'll have to go Audi =(
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this has me all wound up now!! where's Scott to dismiss the claim of nothing in 2012???
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      06-10-2011, 12:34 PM   #33
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I don't think it matters what MY it is if you really want one, but that said, I agree, BMW would have nothing to gain by saying "Oh yeah, we'll build some 2012 1M's up till 6/2012 when E82 production actually ends. Why not?" They want maximum hype today and for as long as possible, which is nothing but smart marketing if you ask me.

I amend my position once again back to believing there will be no 2012's once it's January 1, 2012 and you can no longer order one. Or until there's an actual press release from M division stating such (which if you look very closely, this is not. It's merely a teaser production schedule they dangled out there to leave the door wide open for innuendo and interpretation, which BMW knew everybody would have a field day with.)
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      06-10-2011, 12:37 PM   #34
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this has me all wound up now!! where's Scott to dismiss the claim of nothing in 2012???
If SCOTT replies he will dismiss it. BMW knows that the key success to this car selling is the "hype". They also know this type of buyer is compulsive.

If the N54 can be built in MY2012 (which it clearly shows for the 335is) why wouldn't they do it for two years?
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      06-10-2011, 12:41 PM   #35
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this has me all wound up now!! where's Scott to dismiss the claim of nothing in 2012???
Don't hold your breath. Like I said, he/they have nothing to gain by spilling any beans in this case.
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      06-10-2011, 12:43 PM   #36
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A lot of models are missing, such as 116i, 118i or the complete diesel range (335d etc).
I would say that this table (in english and not in german) is 2012 BMW NA program and therefore not a valid source of information to confirm that we, rest of the world, won't see a 1M in 2012
They might stop the NA/USA 1M production (due to the N54 issue) but I doubt that Europe won't see any 1M in early 2012 .. at least we can hope.
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      06-10-2011, 12:44 PM   #37
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A lot of models are missing, such as 116i, 118i or the complete diesel range (335d etc).
I would say that this table (in english and not in german) is 2012 BMW NA program and therefore not a valid source of information to confirm that we, rest of the world, won't see a 1M in 2012
They might stop the NA/USA 1M production (due to the N54 issue) but I doubt that Europe won't see any 1M in early 2012 .. at least we can hope.
Correct, this is a USA production chart.
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      06-10-2011, 12:46 PM   #38
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So why does the US still get the 335is model with the N54.

This makes no sense. I won't be able to poop all day due to this stress.
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      06-10-2011, 12:47 PM   #39
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Well at least we know only 450 coming to the UK and they are nearly all sold and will be delivered as 2011 model Should guarantee great second hand value given speculation M2 is a long way away. Also maybe a bit of a clue that no 2012 model
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      06-10-2011, 12:53 PM   #40
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Here's the other side of the coin: if BMWNA knews for absolute certain today/right now they will not be making any 2012 1M's, why not just come out with it and build the hype even higher to drive today's interest and prices up? (ie; "no 2012's! 2011 or bust!")

To the best of my knowledge, they haven't done this, because doing so would make them look like liars being purposefully deceitful to mislead people, (if they did in fact make a 2012 car), and they're not going to go that far and risk ill-will with outspoken niche buyers who would absolutely call them on it.
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interesting. I wonder what's next on the menu
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      06-10-2011, 01:08 PM   #42
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Here's the other side of the coin: if BMWNA knews for absolute certain today/right now they will not be making any 2012 1M's, why not just come out with it and build the hype even higher to drive today's interest and prices up? (ie; "no 2012's! 2011 or bust!")

To the best of my knowledge, they haven't done this, because doing so would make them look like liars being purposefully deceitful to mislead people, (if they did in fact make a 2012 car), and they're not going to go that far and risk ill-will with outspoken niche buyers who would absolutely call them on it.
Agreed! and if they decide at the last minute to make MY2012 models, BMW looks like a hero.
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      06-10-2011, 01:09 PM   #43
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Put it this way, if customers knew that BMW had to run MY2011 late in the year to complete a production year, who would buy a MY2011 in November or December if they knew that the MY2012 was just around the corner for spring?

I guess this is what separates the men from the boys. I'm willing to wait.
That is the stupidest thing I've read today! lol

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seriously?

"Well I was considering buying the 1M, but since the production year sounds old, I will pass"

Did you hear that BMW? Better act fast, 1Ms are going to sit on the lot...
Seriously you guys, 1M's are not currently or even in the next few months going to be sitting on the lot. In fact most allocations are snatched up before they even get to the dealership. If you read the OP you would realize this is both for CERTAIN and OFFICIAL!

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"A persistent question surrounding the much acclaimed BMW 1 Series M Coupe has always been how long it would be produced for and whether there would be a 2012 model year. We now know for certain.

According to the OFFICIAL BMW model production schedule (attached below), the 1M coupe will end production in December 2011"
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This is great news for 1M owners. You blokes have something special.
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