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View Poll Results: Which Front Lip do you want Scopione to Make?
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      07-31-2012, 07:41 AM   #199
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Awesome, so you did have to drill into the bumper though, right?


Any chances of some pics of the whole car with it on? I really appreciate you taking the time to post these up, this wait for me has been killer.
I can take some pics of whole car w/ it on later, but not anytime soon.
Goin on a 2 week vacation.

I did have to drill some holes just to make it more secure on the inner and more forward side of the lip.
I think i drilled total of 6 holes, 3 left and 3 right.

I put the 6 OEM screws i took out into those spots and used some longer screws/washer i aquired from a hardware store in the spaces the OEM's where taken out. Will take a pic of it when i get home if i remember.

I didnt need to use all available holes to mount the thing. But figure more is better especially since its basically just plastic holdin it on there.
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      07-31-2012, 07:48 AM   #200
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Sweet, thanks for the info, and again, it looks great!
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Wow, looks great. Now if there was just an ABS version for those of us that want something with at least a little durability.
Seriously. Would it really be that difficult to make us some cheap fiber glass or FRP parts. I want a lip - but I don't want to spend a thousand bucks on something only for it to break a week later


That and I like the prospect of being able to paint it.

Ohh well. If I do buy a lip it's probably this one or slek anyway.
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Seriously. Would it really be that difficult to make us some cheap fiber glass or FRP parts. I want a lip - but I don't want to spend a thousand bucks on something only for it to break a week later


That and I like the prospect of being able to paint it.

Ohh well. If I do buy a lip it's probably this one or slek anyway.

its a relatively cheap CF one.
If i recall, even the original Hammann one in FRP is pretty expensive. And to get one shipped here from Germany would probably be more expensive than this one. Guess i lucked out, this one was only 500 after shipping for me.
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its a relatively cheap CF one.
If i recall, even the original Hammann one in FRP is pretty expensive. And to get one shipped here from Germany would probably be more expensive than this one. Guess i lucked out, this one was only 500 after shipping for me.
its the BMW tax man. <- thats what I say when im upset about economies of scale.

But how difficult would it be? iCarbon sold FRP alongside CF for a while. Shouldve jumped on it then, the FRP pieces were about 2/3 the price of the CF ones.



All that being said the scorpione piece is really nice. Id just like to be spending $400 on this - not $600.
Their rear valence piece sells at $400 - I get that the lip is a bit more complex of a shape but $200 more complex? I dont think so.




Ohh also would you mind taking a ground level shot square at the front of your car? I want to see what it looks like from that angle - thanks!
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its the BMW tax man. <- thats what I say when im upset about economies of scale.

But how difficult would it be? iCarbon sold FRP alongside CF for a while. Shouldve jumped on it then, the FRP pieces were about 2/3 the price of the CF ones.



All that being said the scorpione piece is really nice. Id just like to be spending $400 on this - not $600.
Their rear valence piece sells at $400 - I get that the lip is a bit more complex of a shape but $200 more complex? I dont think so.




Ohh also would you mind taking a ground level shot square at the front of your car? I want to see what it looks like from that angle - thanks!


There is definitely a "BMW tax", and it sucks. When I had my Subaru, a CF front lip for that cost me $300. This one was twice that for the same amount of CF. Hell, my authentic Spec-C lip I had for awhile on my Subaru didn't cost me as much as this lip did, and I had that thing shipped straight from Japan.

I just hope this one fits better, and lasts longer than my iCarbon one did. As long as small, cuddly creatures stay out of my way, I should be fine, lol.
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There is definitely a "BMW tax", and it sucks. When I had my Subaru, a CF front lip for that cost me $300. This one was twice that for the same amount of CF. Hell, my authentic Spec-C lip I had for awhile on my Subaru didn't cost me as much as this lip did, and I had that thing shipped straight from Japan.

I just hope this one fits better, and lasts longer than my iCarbon one did. As long as small, cuddly creatures stay out of my way, I should be fine, lol.
I guess.


But I still want an answer as to how Scorpione sells a rear valence (BMW Perf replica) for $400 while this lip costs 50% more. The valence is a bigger chunk of CF and has just as complex of a shape as the lip.

So what gives? Why arent they both $400? Honestly if the lip was $400 Id buy one right now.


So whats it worth Scorpione? Are you going to keep losing sales like me - who refuses to see the value in a $700 piece of carbon tacked to my front bumper but wants one slightly cheaper?

Or will you continue to do what everyone else does and price yourselves out a decent amount of sales?
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Not sure if u can tell from my picks but the lip is actually hollow in the middle. The top and bottom halves are all carbon. One long ass sheet top and one long ass sheet on bottom basically. The surface area seems pretty big and complicated.
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Not sure if u can tell from my picks but the lip is actually hollow in the middle. The top and bottom halves are all carbon. One long ass sheet top and one long ass sheet on bottom basically. The surface area seems pretty big and complicated.
Its not one sheet wrapped onto itself with a space inbetween? Thats not difficult to mould.
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Thinking about buying that eBay hamann replica and attacking it with a dremel.
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Not sure if u can tell from my picks but the lip is actually hollow in the middle. The top and bottom halves are all carbon. One long ass sheet top and one long ass sheet on bottom basically. The surface area seems pretty big and complicated.
Its not one sheet wrapped onto itself with a space inbetween? Thats not difficult to mould.
Your complaining about the cost based on size/carbon used for the rear diffuser compared to the front lip.
I was actually comparing my 3ddesign diffuser next the lip and the lip is considerably more carbon fiber because of the fact the scorpions lip is made of fiber top and bottom and longer than the diffuser.
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Your complaining about the cost based on size/carbon used for the rear diffuser compared to the front lip.
I was actually comparing my 3ddesign diffuser next the lip and the lip is considerably more carbon fiber because of the fact the scorpions lip is made of fiber top and bottom and longer than the diffuser.
yeah that makes sense I guess. Its the jewish blood man - try anything to save a few pennies





Would you mind getting me that shot of the front I asked for earlier though - im really thinking about grabbing one of these.


Its the jew in me again - theyre located in NYC so I can save on shipping
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Damn they did it. I'll get this before i repaint my hamann lip. Time to order before I return to Germany! And the Hamann one is hollow also and requires drilling in the same areas. I paid around 300 eur. for mine picked up at Hamanns showroom.
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Damn they did it. I'll get this before i repaint my hamann lip. Time to order before I return to Germany! And the Hamann one is hollow also and requires drilling in the same areas. I paid around 300 eur. for mine picked up at Hamanns showroom.
Haha nice , so u are goin back to Germany after all? Heard u lost that followon.?

So u paid 300 euro back when exchange rate was higher right? So maybe USD459$?

IT'S a really nice front lip.
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Slek copy please!
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Slek copy please!


Another person that didn't read the thread, lol.
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Haha nice , so u are goin back to Germany after all? Heard u lost that followon.?

So u paid 300 euro back when exchange rate was higher right? So maybe USD459$?

IT'S a really nice front lip.
I just now saw this lol. Yup, I lost Spang because of the A-10's, and I called my functional (who turned out to be my last flight chief ) and he gave me Ramstein. I'll take that.
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Another person that didn't read the thread, lol.
It got too full of crap after the first few posts, couldn't be bothered to trawl through it all. I am replying in response to OP, even though Slek isn't listed.

Still, stand by it, Slek is the best look and I'd like to see something similar but more affordable for us overseas members...we have cars and roads over here too believe it or not.

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I have been speaking with Mike at Scopione and they want to come out with a front lip. Unfortunately the research and development department at Scopione is at full capacity currently due to them working on many different BMW parts right now so they cannot put the resources to create their own front lip. But he said that if I can make a thread with a poll seeing which front lip everyone wants, they can produce that front lip which is already on the market in carbon fiber for a better price as they have done with the diffuser.

1. iCarbon Front Lip



2. 3D Front Lip




3. Vorsteiner Front Lip




4. Kerscher Front Lip




5. Forgot to include Hamann and I can't edit the poll to add it as an option but here is a picture. If you want Hamann then make a reply.

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It got too full of crap after the first few posts, couldn't be bothered to trawl through it all. I am replying in response to OP, even though Slek isn't listed.

Still, stand by it, Slek is the best look and I'd like to see something similar but more affordable for us overseas members...we have cars and roads over here too believe it or not.

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I'm aware what the OP said, however, if you would have read thru the thread you would have found out that the lip in question has already been made and is available for sale right now.

http://www.scopioneusa.com/all-produ...h-e82-e88.html
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have you guys seen this? LOL

http://www.ebay.com/itm/07-10-BMW-E8...dc8179&vxp=mtr
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Yeah, I mentioned you in this thread about that very product.

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I'm aware what the OP said, however, if you would have read thru the thread you would have found out that the lip in question has already been made and is available for sale right now.

http://www.scopioneusa.com/all-produ...h-e82-e88.html
Oh I see. I saw that yes but hoped that future replica's could be on the cards

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I've seen that, looks good but people's reviews are either good or bad regarding the work needed to make it fit. Some people grind it a little and it fits well, others have to hack it to death and it still doesn't line up. For the price though, should you expect that? I guess.

We have two lips available over here, Kerscher or an iCarbon copy which I am not keen on. The lastest generation of BMW's aren't that well supported but if you've got an E36/46, you're covered for all area's. I suspect the E9x/E8x will be the same in 2-3yrs when it's totally obsolete.
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