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      08-03-2011, 03:37 PM   #45
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the car is a beauty and thats some awesome dyno results
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      08-03-2011, 04:08 PM   #47
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that's at 91F- could we expect more top end with lets say 70 degree weather?

It looks like you could regear the car w/ that sort of torque...
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      08-03-2011, 04:19 PM   #48
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More pics of his 1M can be found at:

http://www.milorifilms.com/
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      08-03-2011, 04:19 PM   #49
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wow. Bravo! Give us a video if you can!!
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      08-03-2011, 04:27 PM   #50
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We are set to make one tomorrow when Lare comes back in town.
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very respectable #'s


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what exhaust op?
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Nice.. Let us know what your 1/4 mile numbers are with those gains. I would love to see how those compare with the current M3
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      08-03-2011, 05:33 PM   #53
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Car looks awesome Lar!
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      08-03-2011, 06:11 PM   #54
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Damn biglare. You have the best of both worlds... V8 power and forced induction. Both being BMW too!
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      08-03-2011, 07:09 PM   #55
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When is ESS going to release the Stage 2 Tune?
and what modifications will it require?
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      08-03-2011, 07:12 PM   #56
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      08-03-2011, 10:59 PM   #57
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Is it the same tune for a non-US car?
It should be the same, but you will benefit from higher octane levels.


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ESS FTW
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what exhaust op?
That would be Eisenmann Race full exhaust, downpipes back!


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what happened to the tires? nice hp though!
What you mean what happend to the tires?


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nice..
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i am impressed with those numbers, but I am more impressed with those wheels. They look so good on that car.
Thanks! I wanted something that looked good and also performed well.


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Awesome.
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the car is a beauty and thats some awesome dyno results
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that's at 91F- could we expect more top end with lets say 70 degree weather?

It looks like you could regear the car w/ that sort of torque...
Yeah, in cooler weather it will perform better. Looking forward to seeing how the extra meats out back can stick the power down!


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To those who asked about the wheels:



More pics of his 1M can be found at:

http://www.milorifilms.com/
Thanks for the pics Gabe! Looking forward to plenty moar!!


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wow. Bravo! Give us a video if you can!!
Video is in the works and will be up very soon!

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very respectable #'s

eisenmann (1st in na)
Thanks, and yes first Eisenmann in US


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Nice.. Let us know what your 1/4 mile numbers are with those gains. I would love to see how those compare with the current M3
I'll have to get it out to the strip or get the video VBOX running on it!


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Car looks awesome Lar!
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Damn biglare. You have the best of both worlds... V8 power and forced induction. Both being BMW too!
Yes, I am in heaven!


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When is ESS going to release the Stage 2 Tune?
and what modifications will it require?
ESS already has a Stage 2 tune in testing...... details soon!


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sweet!
Thanks Bradah!
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      08-04-2011, 07:01 AM   #59
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      08-04-2011, 08:59 AM   #60
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Quick example.

Completely stock my 135i makes 275hp and 301tq @ STD smoothing set to 5.

Now, if I divide that number by .85 then I am making 323hp at the crank bone stock on a 88* day.

If I multiply 275 by 1.15 I get 316.25. What is more believable with a stock 135i?

It's fuzzy math either way, but I have found my way to be much more accurate over the years.
You are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

If you had after tax earnings of $85 and your tax rate was 15%, would you multiply 85*1.15 to get your before tax earnings. No. You would take 85/(1-.15).

Granted, with a dyno the drivetrain loss is unknown, but the appropriate way to back into crank is to divide by (1 - drivetrain loss %).
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You are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

If you had after tax earnings of $85 and your tax rate was 15%, would you multiply 85*1.15 to get your before tax earnings. No. You would take 85/(1-.15).

Granted, with a dyno the drivetrain loss is unknown, but the appropriate way to back into crank is to divide by (1 - drivetrain loss %).
What? You can't figure hp based off of taxes. See, I own a dynoshop and have dyno'd enough cars over the past few years in order to come up with my method because it fits best with what I see when a factory SAE certified car dynos stock. Unlike the method that you want me to use, mine is actually based off of what we see on the dyno.
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      08-04-2011, 09:26 AM   #62
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Here's the thing, and why I use my equation. If a car rated SAE at 400hp comes in and makes 340rwhp then you are correct, and using the 340/(1-.15) method works great. However the average hp for a car rated at 400 is usually around 348 or so (keep in mind, I'm just using this as an example). Now if we use your method then the car is making 409hp at the flywheel, which may or my not be wrong, who knows. Now, about 99% of my clients have the 15% number drilled into their head. The actual drive train loss might actually be around 13%. In this case, your formula works. The problem is that the clients want to use the 15% number for whatever reason, and from a business standpoint it makes more sense for me to use my method. If I use X/(1-.15) then the tag starts floating around the the dyno is "generous" and bloats numbers. If I use the 15% loss variable that the client wants to use then I have to do it my way...from a business standpoint, so that is the real reason behind my method. Does that make sense?
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      08-04-2011, 09:38 AM   #63
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You have to calculate it as a loss. It doesn't work the other way around.

100-15%=85

85*1.15=97.75
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      08-04-2011, 09:52 AM   #64
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You have to calculate it as a loss. It doesn't work the other way around.

100-15%=85

85*1.15=97.75
yes, if you know the exact flywheel number. It is all based on assumption, however I am backing my assumption off of experience.
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      08-04-2011, 09:55 AM   #65
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Like I said, If we knew the exact magical number then I agree, at is the method you should use. I have just never been able to get that number to back up anything that I see scientifically on the dyno when using the "magical" 15% that everyone is comfortable with.
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The thing is, I hate even guess what FWhp is on a car. It doesn't matter what number or method you use. I would wager my car that there is a 100% chance that if you yanked the motor and placed it on a engine dyno the numbers would not match up with what you were calculating them to be.
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