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HP Autowerks · 07-14-2011, 09:12 PM

Mustang Dyno plots:

Blue: Stock Car
Green: Stage 1 and stage 2 on 91 octane
Red: Stage 1 and stage 2 on 100 octane

Handheld switcher is available and for map switching.

Remember, these are Mustang Dyno numbers, which are very conservative. Again, we are looking at the delta here.

Added Dynojet dyno graph.

Gtrain · 07-15-2011, 01:49 AM

Nice. Now we just need to find out which flash tune is the safest and smoothest between the ones out now.

HP Autowerks · 07-15-2011, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gtrain

Nice. Now we just need to find out which flash tune is the safest and smoothest between the ones out now.

GIAC has always been on the conservative side but still find ways to make good power. All prameters were monitored, recorded and throughly reviewed after each dyno run. A couple of the runs actually made a lot more hp and tq than the dyno plots show here, but the IAT's were getting a bit high so they pull back the boost just a bit for lower IAT's and more reliability.

You may see other tuners making more hp and tq, but may not be doing it with reliability in mind. More may be better here, but at the expense of reliability.

Dackelone · 07-15-2011, 02:16 AM

Great work guys!

formula M · 07-15-2011, 02:55 AM

Is there an aftermarket intercooler going into this car..?

BMW Gator · 07-15-2011, 08:23 AM

Do you provide the max boost numbers, IAT's, or A/F ratios along with the product? I know you indicated the numbers were somewhat conservative but I would want to know some more critical data before commiting to a product that could potentially grenade my motor.
Thanks

Red135 · 07-15-2011, 08:52 AM

GIAC needs to add install ability to their handheld map switcher.

MrRoboto · 07-15-2011, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Red135

GIAC needs to add install ability to their handheld map switcher.

^^^

HP Autowerks · 07-15-2011, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by formula M

Is there an aftermarket intercooler going into this car..?

Yes, that is in the works for this car. And then stage 2 software will be tested.

Red135 · 07-15-2011, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Yes, that is in the works for this car. And then stage 2 software will be tested.

What will be the Stage 2 requirements?

HP Autowerks · 08-04-2011, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red135

What will be the Stage 2 requirements?

High-Flow catted or catless DP's, FMIC and intake.

HP Autowerks · 08-09-2011, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motion

Looking good!

Any idea when it will be released? Plans for Stage 2?

As of today the 1M flash is ready to go!

Stage 2 is in the works, no ETA at this time.

BMW Gator · 08-09-2011, 08:50 PM

I'm happy to hear its ready! but I'm reposting my question from 7/15/11

"Do you provide the max boost numbers, IAT's, or A/F ratios along with the product? I know you indicated the numbers were somewhat conservative but I would want to know some more critical data before commiting to a product that could potentially grenade my motor."
Thanks

M1one1M · 08-09-2011, 09:34 PM

Can someone answer me 2 questions:

1. What is 'install ability in their handheld switcher'?
2. Why is the torque delta with this tune only 23 compared to ESS 38.

No criticism intended just genuinely don't know the answer behind these two questions.

Thanks in advance to whoever answers.

Red135 · 08-10-2011, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

As of today the 1M flash is ready to go!

Stage 2 is in the works, no ETA at this time.

Is there still an additional charge for the Stage 2 after purchasing Stage 1?

sq86 · 08-10-2011, 02:13 PM

This is a noob question...

what are IAT's??

Daniel135i · 08-10-2011, 02:30 PM

IAT Intake air temperature

sq86 · 08-10-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel135i

IAT Intake air temperature

Thanks!

RaptorKTM · 08-10-2011, 02:42 PM

Loved GIAC on my Audi, curious to see how users feel about GIAC vs ESS, I have heard some really good things about ESS but have been waiting to see how they compare.

HP Autowerks · 08-10-2011, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red135

Is there still an additional charge for the Stage 2 after purchasing Stage 1?

You just pay the difference. The GIAC Stage 1 for the 1M will be $900 so the Stage 2 will most likely be $1100.

Red135 · 08-10-2011, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

You just pay the difference. The GIAC Stage 1 for the 1M will be $900 so the Stage 2 will most likely be $1100.

So we would need to pay another $200 for the Stg 2 if we have the Stg 1?

(Plus the cost of the handheld switcher.)

M1one1M · 08-10-2011, 04:27 PM

Thanks Motion for answering my question. Still a couple more

1. What is 'install ability in their handheld switcher'?
2. What do you mean by 'ESS use different scales to produce a higher torque figure'

Thanks

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07-15-2011, 01:49 AM	#2
Gtrain Lieutenant Colonel Drives: something slowwwww Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 1,888 iTrader: (20)	Nice. Now we just need to find out which flash tune is the safest and smoothest between the ones out now.

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08-09-2011, 08:50 PM	#13
BMW Gator Private First Class Drives: 1M/e90/GTS/Rubicon/FJ40/+ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 164 iTrader: (0)	I'm happy to hear its ready! but I'm reposting my question from 7/15/11 "Do you provide the max boost numbers, IAT's, or A/F ratios along with the product? I know you indicated the numbers were somewhat conservative but I would want to know some more critical data before commiting to a product that could potentially grenade my motor." Thanks

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M1one1M Banned Drives: nothing Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 197 iTrader: (0)	Can someone answer me 2 questions: 1. What is 'install ability in their handheld switcher'? 2. Why is the torque delta with this tune only 23 compared to ESS 38. No criticism intended just genuinely don't know the answer behind these two questions. Thanks in advance to whoever answers.

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08-10-2011, 04:27 PM	#22
M1one1M Banned Drives: nothing Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 197 iTrader: (0)	Thanks Motion for answering my question. Still a couple more 1. What is 'install ability in their handheld switcher'? 2. What do you mean by 'ESS use different scales to produce a higher torque figure' Thanks