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Fone Phreak · 10-05-2011, 02:33 PM

My dealer told me they wont honor the recall on my faulty tail lights because they have been tinted! Although the tinting has absolutely nothing to do with the lights being faulty.
They actually said its BMW not the dealer. BMW will refuse the claim when they return the lenses to them!
Anybody else have this problem?

Mr. Clarkson · 10-05-2011, 02:36 PM

Take the tint off

Fone Phreak · 10-05-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Clarkson

Take the tint off

its sprayed on... forgot to mention that...

Mr. Clarkson · 10-05-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fone Phreak

its sprayed on... forgot to mention that...

paint thinner

Brad135 · 10-05-2011, 02:57 PM

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

This will give them a little irritation.

szcyxzh · 10-05-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad135

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

This will give them a little irritation.

Bravo

bmwbrad22 · 10-05-2011, 03:15 PM

wait...well that isnt good but...there is a recall for 10 tail lights?

EINSER M · 10-05-2011, 03:25 PM

correcto mundo my dealer wouldnt take it back until the tint came off and i have an excellent rapport with mine, no way around that. if you sprayed them have fun scrubbing that shit off, it sticks like crazy!

PolkieJoe · 10-05-2011, 03:36 PM

Laquer thinner but not to much! Don't let it dwell on for to long.... Then use a decent paint polish to get them shiny again.

Fone Phreak · 10-06-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PolkieJoe

Laquer thinner but not to much! Don't let it dwell on for to long.... Then use a decent paint polish to get them shiny again.

i think i might just pull the trigger on a set of LCI tail lights. there are like 500 sets of pre LCI tails on ebay but i know soon as i put one of them on they will fail as well!!!

pain in the a$$

1speedbike · 10-06-2011, 11:46 PM

I would contact your state's attorney general. This document seems to state everything the manufacturer must do in order to identify a problem, carry out a recall, etc. Nowhere does it say that they can deny specific customers while approving of others due to modifications on the car. Since it's a safety issue, they must fix it:

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls...compendium.pdf

Also, the Magnusson Moss Act states that a dealership can't deny a warranty claim because of modifications if the dealership can't prove that the mods directly caused the problem. It is the burden of the dealership to prove your fault, and if they cannot, then they must fix your car. I know this doesn't apply to recalls, but if you argue your point that this is a safety issue, and if they can't prove that you caused the safety issue, then they must fix it. Probably won't work, but it's worth a try at least.

Basheezy · 10-07-2011, 02:49 AM

Acetone/nail polish remover also works in removing sprayed on tint. I was experimenting with mine and used it with no ill effects. But I didn't really let it dry more than a day

Fone Phreak · 10-13-2011, 02:35 PM

Just spent a few hours going back and forth... pretty much told me to suck it!

Honestly was quite surprised. i would think safety would trump all the other BS.

on to LCI tails...

sluflyer06 · 10-13-2011, 02:45 PM

You can't really expect them to perform the recall if they're not going to get re-reimbursed for the parts/labor.

When you modify a part you should always safely assume you've taken responsibility for anything that goes wrong with it.

e34m5 · 10-14-2011, 09:55 AM

Modification = caveat emptor. Always.

Vigilante375 · 10-14-2011, 11:36 AM

Never really understood why people want to tint their headlights and tail lights. I can barely see some retards brake lights and turn signals at night they tint it so dark. I understand the "murder" theme but the headlights and tail lights should be left out on the "theme" unless its show car that wont be driven on the public roads. Still they should fix it because there is a recall and I really dont see how tint on the tail lights can cause them to fail. I'd remove the tint and go to another dealer to get the fix, but do what you want.

BimmerEnthusiast99 · 10-14-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fone Phreak

i would think safety would trump all the other BS.

on to LCI tails...

Don't use that argument with them as it works more against you than for you. You put tint on something that relies on brightness for safety.

I would approach the matter with "hat in hand" at another dealership and see if that'll get you goodwilled under warranty.

10-05-2011, 02:33 PM	#1
Fone Phreak Private First Class Drives: 2010 135i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MIAMI, NYC Posts: 109 iTrader: (1)	2010 tail light recall - DENIED! My dealer told me they wont honor the recall on my faulty tail lights because they have been tinted! Although the tinting has absolutely nothing to do with the lights being faulty. They actually said its BMW not the dealer. BMW will refuse the claim when they return the lenses to them! Anybody else have this problem?
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10-05-2011, 02:36 PM	#2
Mr. Clarkson Lieutenant Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 544 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 135i [0.00]	Take the tint off __________________

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10-06-2011, 11:46 PM	#11
1speedbike Colonel Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ, NYC, Baltimore Posts: 2,916 iTrader: (14)	I would contact your state's attorney general. This document seems to state everything the manufacturer must do in order to identify a problem, carry out a recall, etc. Nowhere does it say that they can deny specific customers while approving of others due to modifications on the car. Since it's a safety issue, they must fix it: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls...compendium.pdf Also, the Magnusson Moss Act states that a dealership can't deny a warranty claim because of modifications if the dealership can't prove that the mods directly caused the problem. It is the burden of the dealership to prove your fault, and if they cannot, then they must fix your car. I know this doesn't apply to recalls, but if you argue your point that this is a safety issue, and if they can't prove that you caused the safety issue, then they must fix it. Probably won't work, but it's worth a try at least. __________________ Year 1 of the 1

10-13-2011, 02:45 PM	#14
sluflyer06 Private First Class Drives: 2008 135i MT Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 165 iTrader: (2)	You can't really expect them to perform the recall if they're not going to get re-reimbursed for the parts/labor. When you modify a part you should always safely assume you've taken responsibility for anything that goes wrong with it. __________________ 08' 135i MT \|\| Cobb Stage 1 'Aggressive' 4.01 Map \| BMS DCI \| Berk Mid Pipes \| Maddad Eurosport Axleback \| E93 FSB \| M-Sport Black on Black \| CDV Delete \|\|

10-05-2011, 02:57 PM	#5
Brad135 Private First Class Drives: AW 135i 2009 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Piedmont Triad, NC Posts: 114 iTrader: (0)	https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/ This will give them a little irritation.

10-05-2011, 03:15 PM	#7
bmwbrad22 Private First Class Drives: 10' Alpine White 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: nj Posts: 127 iTrader: (0)	wait...well that isnt good but...there is a recall for 10 tail lights?

10-05-2011, 03:36 PM	#9
PolkieJoe Enlisted Member Drives: 2012 BMW 135i Vert Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vienna, WV Posts: 33 iTrader: (1)	Laquer thinner but not to much! Don't let it dwell on for to long.... Then use a decent paint polish to get them shiny again.

10-07-2011, 02:49 AM	#12
Basheezy Bashar Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 641 iTrader: (1)	Acetone/nail polish remover also works in removing sprayed on tint. I was experimenting with mine and used it with no ill effects. But I didn't really let it dry more than a day

10-13-2011, 02:35 PM	#13
Fone Phreak Private First Class Drives: 2010 135i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MIAMI, NYC Posts: 109 iTrader: (1)	Just spent a few hours going back and forth... pretty much told me to suck it! Honestly was quite surprised. i would think safety would trump all the other BS. on to LCI tails...

10-14-2011, 09:55 AM	#15
e34m5 Captain Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 771 iTrader: (0)	Modification = caveat emptor. Always.

10-14-2011, 11:36 AM	#16
Vigilante375 First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 AW 6M 135i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lacey, WA Posts: 306 iTrader: (0)	Never really understood why people want to tint their headlights and tail lights. I can barely see some retards brake lights and turn signals at night they tint it so dark. I understand the "murder" theme but the headlights and tail lights should be left out on the "theme" unless its show car that wont be driven on the public roads. Still they should fix it because there is a recall and I really dont see how tint on the tail lights can cause them to fail. I'd remove the tint and go to another dealer to get the fix, but do what you want.

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