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      08-28-2014, 08:57 PM   #1
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N54 oil leaks

We all know about the oil filter housing and Vanos oil leaks.
But lately we have been doing heaps of cam cover gaskets, bit of a bugger to do, it seems that the rubber gasket gets hard, cracks and ends up as a nasty oil leak, watch out for this one
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      08-29-2014, 06:15 AM   #2
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I am replacing mine shortly, cover and all. When you say "bugger to do" can you be more specific? Anything to look out for?

Theres a DIY on here thats quite detailed so I was planning on following that.
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      08-31-2014, 03:26 AM   #3
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What else do you guys replace when replacing the gasket? Bolts as well? I've had an indy supposedly replace the gasket on mine twice, but it still leaks. The head mechanic told me the bolts stretch, but insure if true as they aren't aluminium.

Will be ordering a complete cover set and getting someone else to do it.
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      08-31-2014, 05:49 AM   #4
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What else do you guys replace when replacing the gasket? Bolts as well? I've had an indy supposedly replace the gasket on mine twice, but it still leaks. The head mechanic told me the bolts stretch, but insure if true as they aren't aluminium.

Will be ordering a complete cover set and getting someone else to do it.
The bolts are Al, so there is a chance they could 'twist' and then snap (hence why they're for one time use)

It's common that the valve cover has a fracture (they're made from plastic) or it could also be your oil filter housing gasket? Have heard of a few oil pan gaskets leaking also...

Where's yours leaking? (is it actually leaking, or is oil just being consumed?)
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      08-31-2014, 09:55 AM   #5
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Haven't been able to get a straight answer. BMW one time bolts are marked blue, these aren't. Also is magnetic, hence assumption they are steel.

Indy told me the valve cover wasn't cracked or warped. But they've lied to me so unsure what to believe. Will change the lot for peace of mind.

Definitely leaking. Already changed oil cooler housing gaskets and VANOS seals. This is definitely coming from the VC
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      08-31-2014, 01:35 PM   #6
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Since we're on this topic...

A few buddies of mine were randomly discussing about oil leaks the other day. We're all just a bunch of car enthusiasts, not experts. One fellow mentioned that cars that are driven regularly and often don't experience as much gasket leakage issues as compared to cars that are stored over winter.

Any truth on this?
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      08-31-2014, 04:18 PM   #7
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Haven't been able to get a straight answer. BMW one time bolts are marked blue, these aren't. Also is magnetic, hence assumption they are steel.

Indy told me the valve cover wasn't cracked or warped. But they've lied to me so unsure what to believe. Will change the lot for peace of mind.

Definitely leaking. Already changed oil cooler housing gaskets and VANOS seals. This is definitely coming from the VC
surely they'd tell you.. you know, so they can replace it and charge you more money? :/
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      08-31-2014, 05:00 PM   #8
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Haven't been able to get a straight answer. BMW one time bolts are marked blue, these aren't. Also is magnetic, hence assumption they are steel.

Indy told me the valve cover wasn't cracked or warped. But they've lied to me so unsure what to believe. Will change the lot for peace of mind.

Definitely leaking. Already changed oil cooler housing gaskets and VANOS seals. This is definitely coming from the VC
hmm I hadn't actually clarified that they're ferrous! Having said that I have had a few broken tappet cover bolts over the years and they aren't fun to replace!!
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      08-31-2014, 09:24 PM   #9
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Haven't been able to get a straight answer. BMW one time bolts are marked blue, these aren't. Also is magnetic, hence assumption they are steel.

Indy told me the valve cover wasn't cracked or warped. But they've lied to me so unsure what to believe. Will change the lot for peace of mind.

Definitely leaking. Already changed oil cooler housing gaskets and VANOS seals. This is definitely coming from the VC
Who's the mechanic?
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      09-01-2014, 09:00 AM   #10
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surely they'd tell you.. you know, so they can replace it and charge you more money? :/
Was done through them under warranty as the car was bought interstate. Took it there initially and was told gasket replaced. Few months later noticed leaking as i had engine covers off so i took it back and they had the car for a day, supposedly a new gasket installed. I was told old new gasket was defective. Noticed still leaking few days after so took back again. Head mechanic told it was the bolts and would order and give me a call. 2 weeks later found out head mechanic had moved on. Owner of business denied any work was done on car when i brought it back second time. Had enough of the lies and will never see a cent from me.
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      09-01-2014, 12:52 PM   #11
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I've heard that since the covers themselves warp and once you take it off to replace the gasket, most times it will never seal correctly again. It's advised to replace the whole cover at the same time.
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Was done through them under warranty as the car was bought interstate. Took it there initially and was told gasket replaced. Few months later noticed leaking as i had engine covers off so i took it back and they had the car for a day, supposedly a new gasket installed. I was told old new gasket was defective. Noticed still leaking few days after so took back again. Head mechanic told it was the bolts and would order and give me a call. 2 weeks later found out head mechanic had moved on. Owner of business denied any work was done on car when i brought it back second time. Had enough of the lies and will never see a cent from me.
Have you had a look yourself?

Sometimes dodgy guys just run a bead of silicon on the outside to stop the leak (quick and easy and dodgy!) Is there any type of sealant around the valve cover?

Chances are you're going to have to fork out to get it done properly!
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      09-01-2014, 06:19 PM   #13
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I've heard that since the covers themselves warp and once you take it off to replace the gasket, most times it will never seal correctly again. It's advised to replace the whole cover at the same time.
I agree with you.

Took mine in to the dealership for the Vanos Bolts recall, they changed 2 new sets of gasket and still leaked oil.

Checked and found out the cover have warpped.

So third round ordered in a new rocket cover with a new set of gasket, no oil leak since then.

Wonder why stealership are so dumb!
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      09-01-2014, 09:30 PM   #14
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Sometimes the cover is cracked and then you have to replace it. But a warped cover? news to me, i don't see how you could go wrong if you take your time, and are careful with the assembly.
The bolts are steel i don't replace them unless some Gorilla has been there before.
The rubber gasket is thick and will have preload when assembled, just nip the bolts up against the steel spacer and all will be fine

Make sure the head face is clean and dry, do not use any sealer
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Have you had a look yourself?

Sometimes dodgy guys just run a bead of silicon on the outside to stop the leak (quick and easy and dodgy!) Is there any type of sealant around the valve cover?

Chances are you're going to have to fork out to get it done properly!

Yea had a decent look, doesnt look like any sealant was used. Will just spend the money and get it all replaced. Annoying as i would have happily paid fot the extra parts cost if they gave me the option and was upfront about it.
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      09-09-2014, 10:27 PM   #16
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Had oil leak from my N54 cam cover gasket a few years ago. Under warranty, I took it back to local dealer who cleaned it up & told me they could find no leak. It hasn't leaked since...

Last week I noticed a baddish leak from the RH seal of my diff. Not sure how old the diff is as it's a Quaife replacement unit. Had both L & R seals replaced yesterday + new oil.
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I just had my oil pan gasket leak as well. Did a little research and most likely causes:

1. oil not up to temperature + driving on load = pressure increases = blows gasket

2. over-filling engine oil = same, pressure increase

The 1M has an extra radiator plus an oil cooler ..it takes forever to get the oil up to temp. So now I'm on 0W-30 (instead of 5W-30), and the oil comes up to temp a lot faster. My trips are fairly short so depends on individual.

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