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      12-31-2011, 03:56 PM   #1
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Cobb or Ess Tuning

does anyone know which flash produces more horsepower and torque? cobb flash or ess tuninge?
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      01-01-2012, 12:03 PM   #2
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Don't forget about Epic Motorsports. Supposedly they make a good stage one tune as well.
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      01-01-2012, 12:31 PM   #3
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Also there is Evolve and Dinan.
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      01-01-2012, 12:41 PM   #4
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I am more interested in the Cobb flash or the ess tune.
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      01-01-2012, 12:46 PM   #5
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Don't get misled into focusing on peak numbers (unless you're into having a dyno queen). It's all about the area under the curve AND driveability!

FWIW, I've heard terrific things about Cobb.

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      01-01-2012, 09:21 PM   #6
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Don't get misled into focusing on peak numbers (unless you're into having a dyno queen). It's all about the area under the curve AND driveability!

FWIW, I've heard terrific things about Cobb.

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+100 - I don't understand why people get so fixated with the maximum HP number. When I buy a tune- I look for reliability/repeatability/tuner support.

I can't speak for ESS/Dinan/Evolve- but I've had a great experience so far with the Cobb AP Stage 1 Aggressive with Stock throttle map.
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      01-01-2012, 11:45 PM   #7
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and when you think about what a tune is doing it doesn't hurt to consider being conservative. I don't know ESS or COBB but from other tuned cars I have had I have taken that point into consideration.
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      01-02-2012, 04:43 AM   #8
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      02-18-2012, 10:28 AM   #9
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Hi,

Which ones from the tunes above are really PnP? Which ones can I uninstall at any time (for dealer visits for instance)?

Thank you
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      02-18-2012, 10:49 AM   #10
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COBB and ESS have handheld flasher, not sure about the rest.
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      02-18-2012, 03:46 PM   #11
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Evolve you install/remove with your laptop. Writing back the stockfile takes about 5 minutes.
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      02-18-2012, 09:21 PM   #12
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+100 - I don't understand why people get so fixated with the maximum HP number. When I buy a tune- I look for reliability/repeatability/tuner support.

I can't speak for ESS/Dinan/Evolve- but I've had a great experience so far with the Cobb AP Stage 1 Aggressive with Stock throttle map.
if reliability is the most important thing wouldn't everyone go with Dinan?
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      02-18-2012, 09:22 PM   #13
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everyone always forgets about GIAC for some reason.

Still my personal favorite.
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      02-19-2012, 05:33 AM   #14
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And why is Vishnu Procede mysteriously never mentioned on this board? They've focused on the n54 for years.... Have piggybacks fallen out of favor? JB4, a piggyback, comes up all the time...

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      02-19-2012, 10:30 PM   #15
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I've seen a dyno for ESS... but haven't seen one with Cobb. Anyone?
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      02-20-2012, 10:34 AM   #16
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I've seen a dyno for ESS... but haven't seen one with Cobb. Anyone?
Don't have dyno results of Cobb, but I do have time slips from my dragstrip which I think it shows how quick it is in real world conditions.
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      02-20-2012, 12:38 PM   #17
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Cobb still has some work to do on their 1M prototype software from what I've heard. I would recommend ESS, GIAC or Rogue. All make similar power and all can be had with a handheld installer (I beleive).
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      02-20-2012, 02:08 PM   #18
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Also there is Evolve and Dinan.


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Don't get misled into focusing on peak numbers (unless you're into having a dyno queen). It's all about the area under the curve AND driveability!
Exactly! You buy an M car for drivability so that is the last thing you want to sacrifice.

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Hi,

Which ones from the tunes above are really PnP? Which ones can I uninstall at any time (for dealer visits for instance)?

Thank you
Ours come with our own remote tuning device, the Evolve-R. Working off your laptop it also has a built-in code reader and clearer.

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Evolve you install/remove with your laptop. Writing back the stockfile takes about 5 minutes.
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      02-20-2012, 02:25 PM   #19
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Exactly! You buy an M car for drivability so that is the last thing you want to sacrifice.







Ours come with our own remote tuning device, the Evolve-R. Working off your laptop it also has a built-in code reader and clearer.





The link on your site is broken "view this page"

http://www.evolvetuning.us/bmw/1-ser...-ecu-tune.html
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The link on your site is broken "view this page"

http://www.evolvetuning.us/bmw/1-ser...-ecu-tune.html
Strange, that works for me? I'll test it on a different system...
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      02-20-2012, 02:28 PM   #21
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Strange, that works for me? I'll test it on a different system...
No no, that link I posted does work but there is a hyper link in there called "view this page" which goes to 404
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No no, that link I posted does work but there is a hyper link in there called "view this page" which goes to 404
Thanks Ender, got it and fixed
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