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zayzay · 12-31-2011, 03:56 PM

does anyone know which flash produces more horsepower and torque? cobb flash or ess tuninge?

robertm · 01-01-2012, 12:03 PM

Don't forget about Epic Motorsports. Supposedly they make a good stage one tune as well.

Jet Mech · 01-01-2012, 12:31 PM

Also there is Evolve and Dinan.

zayzay · 01-01-2012, 12:41 PM

I am more interested in the Cobb flash or the ess tune.

MDORPHN · 01-01-2012, 12:46 PM

Don't get misled into focusing on peak numbers (unless you're into having a dyno queen). It's all about the area under the curve AND driveability!

FWIW, I've heard terrific things about Cobb.

Neil

ADVANT123 · 01-01-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MDORPHN

Don't get misled into focusing on peak numbers (unless you're into having a dyno queen). It's all about the area under the curve AND driveability!

FWIW, I've heard terrific things about Cobb.

Neil

+100 - I don't understand why people get so fixated with the maximum HP number. When I buy a tune- I look for reliability/repeatability/tuner support.

I can't speak for ESS/Dinan/Evolve- but I've had a great experience so far with the Cobb AP Stage 1 Aggressive with Stock throttle map.

ethanh8791 · 01-01-2012, 11:45 PM

and when you think about what a tune is doing it doesn't hurt to consider being conservative. I don't know ESS or COBB but from other tuned cars I have had I have taken that point into consideration.

marcel b · 01-02-2012, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Mech

Also there is Evolve and Dinan.

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Evolve flashes have a good reputation and Evolve has a great customer service.

nicoz · 02-18-2012, 10:28 AM

Hi,

Which ones from the tunes above are really PnP? Which ones can I uninstall at any time (for dealer visits for instance)?

Thank you

RaihaX · 02-18-2012, 10:49 AM

COBB and ESS have handheld flasher, not sure about the rest.

VO 1M · 02-18-2012, 03:46 PM

Evolve you install/remove with your laptop. Writing back the stockfile takes about 5 minutes.

S.hasan546 · 02-18-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ADVANT123

+100 - I don't understand why people get so fixated with the maximum HP number. When I buy a tune- I look for reliability/repeatability/tuner support.

I can't speak for ESS/Dinan/Evolve- but I've had a great experience so far with the Cobb AP Stage 1 Aggressive with Stock throttle map.

if reliability is the most important thing wouldn't everyone go with Dinan?

BrokenVert · 02-18-2012, 09:22 PM

everyone always forgets about GIAC for some reason.

Still my personal favorite.

Mahlzeit · 02-19-2012, 05:33 AM

And why is Vishnu Procede mysteriously never mentioned on this board? They've focused on the n54 for years.... Have piggybacks fallen out of favor? JB4, a piggyback, comes up all the time...

nicoz · 02-19-2012, 10:30 PM

I've seen a dyno for ESS... but haven't seen one with Cobb. Anyone?

RnmEvo9 · 02-20-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nicoz

I've seen a dyno for ESS... but haven't seen one with Cobb. Anyone?

Don't have dyno results of Cobb, but I do have time slips from my dragstrip which I think it shows how quick it is in real world conditions.

robertm · 02-20-2012, 12:38 PM

Cobb still has some work to do on their 1M prototype software from what I've heard. I would recommend ESS, GIAC or Rogue. All make similar power and all can be had with a handheld installer (I beleive).

P@Evolve · 02-20-2012, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Mech

Also there is Evolve and Dinan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDORPHN

Don't get misled into focusing on peak numbers (unless you're into having a dyno queen). It's all about the area under the curve AND driveability!

Exactly! You buy an M car for drivability so that is the last thing you want to sacrifice.

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Originally Posted by marcel b

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Evolve flashes have a good reputation and Evolve has a great customer service.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicoz

Hi,

Which ones from the tunes above are really PnP? Which ones can I uninstall at any time (for dealer visits for instance)?

Thank you

Ours come with our own remote tuning device, the Evolve-R. Working off your laptop it also has a built-in code reader and clearer.

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Originally Posted by VO 1M

Evolve you install/remove with your laptop. Writing back the stockfile takes about 5 minutes.

Ender_ · 02-20-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul@Evolve

Exactly! You buy an M car for drivability so that is the last thing you want to sacrifice.

Ours come with our own remote tuning device, the Evolve-R. Working off your laptop it also has a built-in code reader and clearer.

The link on your site is broken "view this page"

http://www.evolvetuning.us/bmw/1-ser...-ecu-tune.html

P@Evolve · 02-20-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ender_

The link on your site is broken "view this page"

http://www.evolvetuning.us/bmw/1-ser...-ecu-tune.html

Strange, that works for me? I'll test it on a different system...

Ender_ · 02-20-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul@Evolve

Strange, that works for me? I'll test it on a different system...

No no, that link I posted does work but there is a hyper link in there called "view this page" which goes to 404

P@Evolve · 02-20-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ender_

No no, that link I posted does work but there is a hyper link in there called "view this page" which goes to 404

Thanks Ender, got it and fixed

12-31-2011, 03:56 PM	#1
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01-01-2012, 12:03 PM	#2
robertm Captain Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dfw Posts: 733 iTrader: (0)	Don't forget about Epic Motorsports. Supposedly they make a good stage one tune as well.

01-01-2012, 12:41 PM	#4
zayzay Private First Class Drives: bmw 1M Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 114 iTrader: (0)	I am more interested in the Cobb flash or the ess tune.

01-01-2012, 12:46 PM	#5
MDORPHN Lieutenant Colonel Drives: AW 1M Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wash, DC Posts: 1,780 iTrader: (0)	Don't get misled into focusing on peak numbers (unless you're into having a dyno queen). It's all about the area under the curve AND driveability! FWIW, I've heard terrific things about Cobb. Neil

01-01-2012, 11:45 PM	#7
ethanh8791 Supreme Member Drives: crazy Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 109 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 VW GTI [0.00] 2011 BMW 1M [0.00]	and when you think about what a tune is doing it doesn't hurt to consider being conservative. I don't know ESS or COBB but from other tuned cars I have had I have taken that point into consideration.

02-18-2012, 10:28 AM	#9
nicoz Private First Class Drives: 1M Join Date: May 2011 Location: Montreal Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	Hi, Which ones from the tunes above are really PnP? Which ones can I uninstall at any time (for dealer visits for instance)? Thank you

02-18-2012, 10:49 AM	#10
RaihaX Major General Drives: 08' 135i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Australia, Perth Posts: 5,030 iTrader: (2)	COBB and ESS have handheld flasher, not sure about the rest.

02-18-2012, 03:46 PM	#11
VO 1M Private First Class Drives: 1M Coupe Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 171 iTrader: (0)	Evolve you install/remove with your laptop. Writing back the stockfile takes about 5 minutes.

02-19-2012, 10:30 PM	#15
nicoz Private First Class Drives: 1M Join Date: May 2011 Location: Montreal Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	I've seen a dyno for ESS... but haven't seen one with Cobb. Anyone?

02-20-2012, 12:38 PM	#17
robertm Captain Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dfw Posts: 733 iTrader: (0)	Cobb still has some work to do on their 1M prototype software from what I've heard. I would recommend ESS, GIAC or Rogue. All make similar power and all can be had with a handheld installer (I beleive).