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HP Autowerks · 02-10-2012, 04:28 PM

Here is a photo of the muffler in more detail...

BrianB496 · 02-17-2012, 10:41 AM

Still no pricing info on this???

AlvinT · 02-17-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianB496

Still no pricing info on this???

Please see out website release this early next week.

superchargedman · 02-18-2012, 04:14 PM

I assume the borla axle back compatible with stock mid pipes?

superchargedman · 02-20-2012, 11:59 PM

Alvin, any news on pricing?

HP Autowerks · 02-21-2012, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by superchargedman

I assume the borla axle back compatible with stock mid pipes?

Yes, it is.

HP Autowerks · 02-25-2012, 01:13 AM

Borla just released this muffler today!

JohnnyCakes · 02-25-2012, 02:02 AM

Hi Guys,
Here's a quick video of the new exhaust on a cold start:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

Sounds very good IMHO!

I'm planning on attending the SoCal 1-M meet in Woodland Hills this Sunday (2/26/2012). See you there...

J

BrianB496 · 02-28-2012, 02:39 PM

$2145 for a MUFFLER?!?!?!

Seriously BS. Borla offers cat-back systems that include full piping from downtube back to dual mufflers for 335's for $1200, and you have the balls to try to charge $2100 for a muffler?

Couldn't be more than $400 of materials in this exhaust. You're charging more than a Eisenmann axle back, which is made in germany and has to be tested to meet TUV standards.

Ridiculous.

S.hasan546 · 02-28-2012, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianB496

$2145 for a MUFFLER?!?!?!

Seriously BS. Borla offers cat-back systems that include full piping from downtube back to dual mufflers for 335's for $1200, and you have the balls to try to charge $2100 for a muffler?

Couldn't be more than $400 of materials in this exhaust. You're charging more than a Eisenmann axle back, which is made in germany and has to be tested to meet TUV standards.

Ridiculous.

$2145 for a borla? wow.

HP Autowerks · 02-28-2012, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianB496

$2145 for a MUFFLER?!?!?!

Seriously BS. Borla offers cat-back systems that include full piping from downtube back to dual mufflers for 335's for $1200, and you have the balls to try to charge $2100 for a muffler?

Couldn't be more than $400 of materials in this exhaust. You're charging more than a Eisenmann axle back, which is made in germany and has to be tested to meet TUV standards.

Ridiculous.

Two mufflers were used to get the best possible flow and sound.

Anyone is welcome to build one for $400, perhaps we will see one coming from you in the near future?

There has to be a retail price, but it's not always the selling/street price.

Das Ein · 02-28-2012, 04:46 PM

You can get the Magnaflow for around $400...

BrianB496 · 02-28-2012, 05:29 PM

Quite honestly, that is pretty much what I was expecting for a Borla. In my experience with Borla, which is limited to the E30 M3 and a friend's F150, there is no comparison in quality to brands like Eisenmann or Remus or Supersprint.

Borla = Magnaflow + 10% on a good day.

Yellowceta · 03-06-2012, 11:06 AM

The biggest problem we as 1M owners will face when modifying our cars is that the aspect we so love is hurting us the most... limited quantity.

Borla along with other manufacturers understand that even if every owner purchases their system, it will still be why of most other systems they offer. They have to spread out the cost of development, manufacturing, overhead, etc. Factor in the profit margin they seek and they arrive at $2145.

Now, they may be delivering less of a product than others out there, but that doesn't mean we will see an axle-back system, of decent quality, that is going to be below $1500. Time will tell, but I have already prepared myself to spend a good amount to modify the exhaust. I am hoping to catch a GP or holiday sale sometime soon.

PunjabiM3 · 03-06-2012, 11:10 AM

No way would I pay the SAME for a Borla muffler as an Eisenmann one. I am very happy with my Eisenmann thus far!

///M1 · 03-06-2012, 01:33 PM

What's the weight relative to stock? Seems a bit heavy from the pics given all the added plumbing.

EIN M · 03-06-2012, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellowceta

The biggest problem we as 1M owners will face when modifying our cars is that the aspect we so love is hurting us the most... limited quantity.

Borla along with other manufacturers understand that even if every owner purchases their system, it will still be why of most other systems they offer. They have to spread out the cost of development, manufacturing, overhead, etc. Factor in the profit margin they seek and they arrive at $2145.

Now, they may be delivering less of a product than others out there, but that doesn't mean we will see an axle-back system, of decent quality, that is going to be below $1500. Time will tell, but I have already prepared myself to spend a good amount to modify the exhaust. I am hoping to catch a GP or holiday sale sometime soon.

Hmmm.....maybe, but I would wager that their profit margin is more substancial that most of the other exhausts we've seen so far. Those are not one-off special mufflers, just a pair of off the shelf borla mufflers by the looks of it and not even polished at that!!!

Way too much $$$ for the product.....and I happen to love the sound...but not THAT much

superchargedman · 03-08-2012, 01:12 PM

Has anyone received theirs yet? Mine just cleared customs.

superchargedman · 03-13-2012, 03:53 PM

Borla axle back and n55 mids ready to go! Can't wait to install them this weekend! Thanks, Harold!

Sixspeed J · 03-14-2012, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superchargedman

Borla axle back and n55 mids ready to go! Can't wait to install them this weekend! Thanks, Harold!

Hope you can get us a video with that combination!

superchargedman · 03-14-2012, 10:06 AM

I shall! So nice to be off work.

superchargedman · 03-15-2012, 02:04 PM

Delayed til next wkend.

02-10-2012, 04:28 PM	#23
HP Autowerks Lieutenant General Drives: 2011 135i DCT & 2011 1M Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, AST, Brembo, Eibach, H&R, GIAC, Koni, Quaife, Stoptech, Vorshlag, Posts: 10,106 iTrader: (26)	Borla 1M Muffler Here is a photo of the muffler in more detail... Attached Images

02-25-2012, 02:02 AM	#30
JohnnyCakes New Member Drives: 1-Series M Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	Cold Start Video Hi Guys, Here's a quick video of the new exhaust on a cold start: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink Sounds very good IMHO! I'm planning on attending the SoCal 1-M meet in Woodland Hills this Sunday (2/26/2012). See you there... J

03-06-2012, 11:06 AM	#36
Yellowceta Private Drives: 2011 VO 1M Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Keller, TX Posts: 60 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW [0.00]	The biggest problem we as 1M owners will face when modifying our cars is that the aspect we so love is hurting us the most... limited quantity. Borla along with other manufacturers understand that even if every owner purchases their system, it will still be why of most other systems they offer. They have to spread out the cost of development, manufacturing, overhead, etc. Factor in the profit margin they seek and they arrive at $2145. Now, they may be delivering less of a product than others out there, but that doesn't mean we will see an axle-back system, of decent quality, that is going to be below $1500. Time will tell, but I have already prepared myself to spend a good amount to modify the exhaust. I am hoping to catch a GP or holiday sale sometime soon. __________________ 1996 Trans Am WS6 (RiP) 2002 Trans Am Collector Edition WS6 - Not Stock @ 425 rwhp 2006 VW GTi - APR Goodies - Sold 2011 1M - VO Florida pick up 11/4/11 #554 of 740

03-06-2012, 11:10 AM	#37
PunjabiM3 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,673 iTrader: (1)	No way would I pay the SAME for a Borla muffler as an Eisenmann one. I am very happy with my Eisenmann thus far! __________________ New ride ETA 2 weeks 2012 Audi A6 Prestige, Moonlight Blue 2009 Lexus ES350, Sparkling Graphite (wife's) Previous: 11 e82 1M, 07 997TT, 08 e92 M3, 06 997 C2S, 05 e46 M3 coupe, 03.5 e46 M3 cabrio

03-06-2012, 01:33 PM	#38
///M1 Brigadier General Drives: Many Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 212/305 Posts: 3,080 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1///M [0.00] 2008 Audi RS4 [0.00] 2000 BMW E39 M5 (sold) [0.00] 2008 BMW 135i (sold) [0.00]	What's the weight relative to stock? Seems a bit heavy from the pics given all the added plumbing. __________________ *2011 BMW E82 1///M: AW, ZPP, ZCV, HK, Sirius, Apps; Akra CF+Valve control, MadDad mids, K&N, Forge FMIC, P3gauge, EuroTails, Tint, CF Mirrors+Spoiler+Roof Wrap, 10mm H&Rs, IND grills+gills, xCDV, LUX AE 2008 Audi B7 RS 4*: Sprint Blue, Exclusive Euro Recaro Interior, Premium+Titanium Package, EPL Tune, Stasis Ohlins MS coilovers, Milltek valved exhaust+DownPipes, Stoptech SS lines, Tint, ADR V1, Lidatek, Lamin-X, Rotiform SNA 19x10" wheels, 275/30/19 PSSs, Euro flat-bottom steering wheel, JHM SSK

02-17-2012, 10:41 AM	#24
BrianB496 Enlisted Member Drives: 1 ///M Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: TX Posts: 47 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1M [0.00]	Still no pricing info on this???

02-18-2012, 04:14 PM	#26
superchargedman Captain Drives: The ///Mbulance: 1M AW Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 872 iTrader: (1)	I assume the borla axle back compatible with stock mid pipes?

02-20-2012, 11:59 PM	#27
superchargedman Captain Drives: The ///Mbulance: 1M AW Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 872 iTrader: (1)	Alvin, any news on pricing?

02-25-2012, 01:13 AM	#29
HP Autowerks Lieutenant General Drives: 2011 135i DCT & 2011 1M Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, AST, Brembo, Eibach, H&R, GIAC, Koni, Quaife, Stoptech, Vorshlag, Posts: 10,106 iTrader: (26)	Borla just released this muffler today!

02-28-2012, 02:39 PM	#31
BrianB496 Enlisted Member Drives: 1 ///M Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: TX Posts: 47 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1M [0.00]	$2145 for a MUFFLER?!?!?! Seriously BS. Borla offers cat-back systems that include full piping from downtube back to dual mufflers for 335's for $1200, and you have the balls to try to charge $2100 for a muffler? Couldn't be more than $400 of materials in this exhaust. You're charging more than a Eisenmann axle back, which is made in germany and has to be tested to meet TUV standards. Ridiculous.

02-28-2012, 04:46 PM	#34
Das Ein Captain Drives: 2013 Audi TTRS (on order) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Allen, TX Posts: 798 iTrader: (3)	You can get the Magnaflow for around $400...

02-28-2012, 05:29 PM	#35
BrianB496 Enlisted Member Drives: 1 ///M Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: TX Posts: 47 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1M [0.00]	Quite honestly, that is pretty much what I was expecting for a Borla. In my experience with Borla, which is limited to the E30 M3 and a friend's F150, there is no comparison in quality to brands like Eisenmann or Remus or Supersprint. Borla = Magnaflow + 10% on a good day.

03-08-2012, 01:12 PM	#40
superchargedman Captain Drives: The ///Mbulance: 1M AW Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 872 iTrader: (1)	Has anyone received theirs yet? Mine just cleared customs.

03-13-2012, 03:53 PM	#41
superchargedman Captain Drives: The ///Mbulance: 1M AW Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 872 iTrader: (1)	Borla axle back and n55 mids ready to go! Can't wait to install them this weekend! Thanks, Harold!

03-14-2012, 10:06 AM	#43
superchargedman Captain Drives: The ///Mbulance: 1M AW Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 872 iTrader: (1)	I shall! So nice to be off work.

03-15-2012, 02:04 PM	#44
superchargedman Captain Drives: The ///Mbulance: 1M AW Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 872 iTrader: (1)	Delayed til next wkend.

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