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CarJunkie · 03-31-2012, 11:08 AM

Still debating, but will probably go with Maddad more for the non-stainelss look, slightly louder from what I hear. I don't intend to change the muffler, so I want to get all the grunt I can out of the mids.

Rotor head · 04-01-2012, 09:27 AM

In a similar situation here and considering the maddad or the Berk for the mid pipe .... With intention to keep the exhaust stock.

Just that I had the Catless down pipe on my 1M now and worried that the maddad being too loud with the combination !

Franklin Joseph · 04-01-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rotor head

In a similar situation here and considering the maddad or the Berk for the mid pipe .... With intention to keep the exhaust stock.

Just that I had the Catless down pipe on my 1M now and worried that the maddad being too loud with the combination !

i had catless dp, berk mids and stock rear, and it was surprisingly tame. Not too loud when driving normal. When you go WOT, it really wakes up.

Rotor head · 04-01-2012, 11:21 AM

That's nice ...

Ian///M · 04-01-2012, 03:12 PM

Yes, mids (MadDad) definitely worth doing. 247kW / 337HP (at rear wheels). I didn't dyno prior to doing the mids, but surprised at the numbers this car puts down... BMW certainly under-spec it on paper.

robertm · 04-02-2012, 09:02 AM

Actually BMW nailed the stock numbers. On a Mustang dyno most stock 1ms are coming back in the low to mid 290s which when divided by .85 (~15% driveline loss) comes right to 340s at the crank.

Fundahl · 04-02-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by robertm

Actually BMW nailed the stock numbers. On a Mustang dyno most stock 1ms are coming back in the low to mid 290s which when divided by .85 (~15% driveline loss) comes right to 340s at the crank.

Yep.

337whp on a Dyno Dynamics is pretty good with just a catless mid-pipe!

It just seems underrated because quite a few cars are actually overrated... but I won't get into that here.

Now you guys have me stuck between Berk or Maddad!

robertm · 04-02-2012, 09:46 AM

I reluctantly let my fiance drive the 1m around on Saturday because I was using her truck to tow something and didn't feel like using my truck. Anyway, she managed to 'find' about a half dozen reasons to use the car throughout the day. I was out front most of the day washing another toy so got to hear her pulling up and driving away.

I have to say I am really impressed with the Berks. The sound when she pulled away was intoxicating. You don't realize when your driving the car yourself everyday just how good it sounds. I've had several neighbors tell me how great the car sounds too. It's not loud under normal throttle but definitely audible, deep and grumbly. At wide open throttle it does get louder and higher pitched at the top.

I've not heard the Maddads and I know people like those too but I couldn't be happier with the Berks.

MrRoboto · 04-02-2012, 09:46 AM

What's the consensus Berk or Maddad? Performance seems to be very similar. From the vids I've heard, Maddad has an edge on sound. What's the price difference...$50?

Rotor head · 04-02-2012, 10:05 AM

Berks featured the dual 2.5 piping with resonators and into a single 3" Y ...

Any idea for Maddad ?

Fundahl · 04-02-2012, 12:06 PM

Looks the same both for Maddad and Berk.

Berk has two longer/skinny resonators side by side, Maddad has offset short/fat ones.

Pictures for comparison:

BERK

MadDad (On the right) ///Stock on the left

ayao · 04-02-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundahl

Yep.

337whp on a Dyno Dynamics is pretty good with just a catless mid-pipe!

It just seems underrated because quite a few cars are actually overrated... but I won't get into that here.

Now you guys have me stuck between Berk or Maddad!

For my own personal edification and decision-making why not the N55 mid?

Fundahl · 04-02-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ayao

For my own personal edification and decision-making why not the N55 mid?

N55 mid is a great choice!

I just want something that is a bit larger diameter, louder, cooler to look at, etc.

Ian///M · 04-02-2012, 06:36 PM

Just had service done yesterday and tech informed SA that car had non-BMW oil filter and magnetic sump plug, clearly they were looking for issues. Nothing said re the MadDad's though due to their OEM look. The Berk's may be a bit to bling.

CarJunkie · 04-02-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ianf

Just had service done yesterday and tech informed SA that car had non-BMW oil filter and magnetic sump plug, clearly they were looking for issues. Nothing said re the MadDad's though due to their OEM look. The Berk's may be a bit to bling.

Please tell me they did not fault you for the filter and magnetic drain plug . . . . /endhijack.

Ian///M · 04-02-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CarJunkie

Please tell me they did not fault you for the filter and magnetic drain plug . . . . /endhijack.

Yes, recorded against my VIN now

CarJunkie · 04-02-2012, 10:37 PM

I can't imagine how a properly fitted aftermarket filter or a magnetic drain plug could be used to void any portion of the warranty. Your dealer has issues.

Ian///M · 04-02-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CarJunkie

I can't imagine how a properly fitted aftermarket filter or a magnetic drain plug could be used to void any portion of the warranty. Your dealer has issues.

Indeed, nor a Bosch oil filter as I believe Bosch make the BMW filter.

04-01-2012, 03:12 PM	#27
Ian///M Brigadier General Drives: 1M E82 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Oz Posts: 4,515 iTrader: (0)	Yes, mids (MadDad) definitely worth doing. 247kW / 337HP (at rear wheels). I didn't dyno prior to doing the mids, but surprised at the numbers this car puts down... BMW certainly under-spec it on paper. Attached Images

04-02-2012, 09:46 AM	#31
MrRoboto Colonel Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,600 iTrader: (0)	What's the consensus Berk or Maddad? Performance seems to be very similar. From the vids I've heard, Maddad has an edge on sound. What's the price difference...$50? Last edited by MrRoboto; 04-02-2012 at 09:53 AM.

04-02-2012, 12:06 PM	#33
Fundahl Captain Drives: VO 1M, 300zx TT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 705 iTrader: (0)	Looks the same both for Maddad and Berk. Berk has two longer/skinny resonators side by side, Maddad has offset short/fat ones. Pictures for comparison: BERK MadDad (On the right) ///Stock on the left Last edited by Fundahl; 04-02-2012 at 01:15 PM. Reason: added pictures

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03-31-2012, 11:08 AM	#23
CarJunkie Lieutenant Drives: Valencia Orange 1-Series M Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tri-Cities, Washington Posts: 424 iTrader: (0)	Still debating, but will probably go with Maddad more for the non-stainelss look, slightly louder from what I hear. I don't intend to change the muffler, so I want to get all the grunt I can out of the mids.

04-01-2012, 09:27 AM	#24
Rotor head Private Drives: F10 535 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 51 iTrader: (1)	In a similar situation here and considering the maddad or the Berk for the mid pipe .... With intention to keep the exhaust stock. Just that I had the Catless down pipe on my 1M now and worried that the maddad being too loud with the combination !

04-01-2012, 11:21 AM	#26
Rotor head Private Drives: F10 535 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 51 iTrader: (1)	That's nice ...

04-02-2012, 09:02 AM	#28
robertm Captain Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dfw Posts: 730 iTrader: (0)	Actually BMW nailed the stock numbers. On a Mustang dyno most stock 1ms are coming back in the low to mid 290s which when divided by .85 (~15% driveline loss) comes right to 340s at the crank.

04-02-2012, 10:05 AM	#32
Rotor head Private Drives: F10 535 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 51 iTrader: (1)	Berks featured the dual 2.5 piping with resonators and into a single 3" Y ... Any idea for Maddad ?

04-02-2012, 06:36 PM	#36
Ian///M Brigadier General Drives: 1M E82 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Oz Posts: 4,515 iTrader: (0)	Just had service done yesterday and tech informed SA that car had non-BMW oil filter and magnetic sump plug, clearly they were looking for issues. Nothing said re the MadDad's though due to their OEM look. The Berk's may be a bit to bling.

04-02-2012, 10:37 PM	#39
CarJunkie Lieutenant Drives: Valencia Orange 1-Series M Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tri-Cities, Washington Posts: 424 iTrader: (0)	I can't imagine how a properly fitted aftermarket filter or a magnetic drain plug could be used to void any portion of the warranty. Your dealer has issues.