bmw 1M akrapovic problem, any thoughts? - Page 2 - BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)

sparoz · 03-31-2012, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigumz

Can anyone confirm alignment issues with *complete*(downpipe on back) Akra system?
Maybe I missed it in reading through the threads, but just trying to narrow down the problem. (My system is in a box in my garage waiting for install!)

Take it out of the box and install it so we know if you have a problem!!!

bklounge · 03-31-2012, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigumz

Can anyone confirm alignment issues with *complete*(downpipe on back) Akra system?
Maybe I missed it in reading through the threads, but just trying to narrow down the problem. (My system is in a box in my garage waiting for install!)

I have a set of new akra dp's sitting in my closet. If I decide to install, I'll be sure to comment.

///M1 · 03-31-2012, 10:45 PM

In my case the passenger side is too close to the inner part of the diffuser. I played with the adjustment for a while, seemed I got it better but after a full heat cycle it went back to looking pretty much like before the adjustment...

sparoz · 04-01-2012, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///M1

Here is a pic of my fitment issue, as you can see the passenger side is too close to the inner part of the diffuser. I played with the adjustment for a while, seemed I got it better but after a full heat cycle it went back to looking pretty much like before the adjustment

Thanks for sharing. Did you contact akra about this?

Dackelone · 04-01-2012, 06:51 AM

I've seen mechanics stick a broom handle or small baseball bat into the exhausts of cars and "tweak" them into alignment.

Not sure IF titanium bends though!? Just a thought.

-Z- · 04-01-2012, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I've seen mechanics stick a broom handle or small baseball bat into the exhausts of cars and "tweak" them into alignment.

Not sure IF titanium bends though!? Just a thought.

I would be super pissed if I had to this kind of "tweaking" to a brand new 5K exhaust

On the other hand, if installed correctly, the misalignment is really disappointing

GTR_Steve · 04-01-2012, 12:04 PM

My issues are similar to ///M1, the clearance side to side and upwards are both issues. I took it to a company that manufactures exhausts on Friday. They were not impressed! Titanium does not respond to 'tweaks' well and they would not do this. The nature of the joints make it difficult to adjust. My installation results in the right side tail pipes protruding approx 10 mm more than the left, this can be seen across the whole of the rear box when viewed from underneath. I have been given an email address at Akrapovic. I received a response earlier in the week along the lines of sorry you are having problems, all of our other customers are happy. There was also a promise to look in to it with the R&D department, I've not heard anything further as yet.
I would encourage all others with issues to raise this with the contact I have been given, Reven Mitja in the marketing department mitja.reven@akrapovic.si

Papethova · 04-01-2012, 12:31 PM

Well my purchase is now on hold

NC · 04-01-2012, 12:33 PM

I was seriously considering the Akrapovic with the wireless kit but after seeing all of these fitment issues I'm steering clear. The sad part is it does not appear to be an isolated issue. Hope they step up to the plate and make it right especially for what they cost.

EINSER M · 04-01-2012, 12:42 PM

cant this be adjusted via a tweak of the hangers in the rear? i agree with this kind of money spent you dont want crooked ass shit tips in the rear....

Artemis · 04-01-2012, 02:28 PM

Should have more clearance than the one in the pictures above, otherwise the hot tips might rub against the rear valence/bumper during drives. Check the videos below to see its movements during driving.

See 01:43-02:39 (Akra 1M test)

See 00:31-00:35 (Akra 1M commercial)

Ian///M · 04-01-2012, 03:41 PM

I doubt that commercial is the REAL sound

sparoz · 04-01-2012, 10:02 PM

I can accept a company not be perfect as there are always the human factor involve. I will keep my purchase on hold until the outcome from Steve. I just want to make sure if I have a problem, I am being looked after.

RaptorKTM · 04-01-2012, 10:38 PM

seen a ton of 1 M's with the system never heard of this issue. Id Call corporate Im sure they will take care of it or replace it. Not saying you did something wrong, but id confirm the install was done all correctly. THe pipes leave slight room for adjustment. I definitely wouldn't fight it. If it doesn't fit right then it doesn't fit. What I do know is Akrapovic will take care of it. I have not ever been this happy with an Exhaust. On top of that it sounds way better then the videos.

Alpine* · 04-01-2012, 10:53 PM

Yeh, what he said ^

Alpine* · 04-01-2012, 11:09 PM

They are a very solid unit, to "adjust" them with a broom for example once mounted would be very difficult.

Hope this helps as a reference from how well mine seem to be located.

///M1 · 04-02-2012, 12:27 AM

Mine were aligned well upon initial install, just as the last photo above by Alpine ^^^. However after a few heat cycles they 'drifted' and could not restore the perfect fit. I have a couple of thousands miles on the exhaust now and even though we tried our best to realign it last week, it looks as per the pics I posted above.

There really is not much one can do in terms of directional/sideway adjustments (short of the tips of course but those can just go inward/forward, not leftward/rightward).

Probably gonna get the Revozport diffuser eventually and the design of it (fins) will ensure the exhaust doesn't hit the diffuser, so again, based on my experience fitment is far from perfect. Hoping me and Steve are the sole exception.

Warriortogo · 04-02-2012, 12:46 AM

It is nice. Is it possible to modify for a 135i?

wabbit · 04-02-2012, 09:43 AM

i just realized that mine is not an alignment issue, at the start up the car with the closed valve ( white) the annoying sound present itself, but if I put the start up the car with the open valve (red) it doesn't , I'm wondering why? any idea?

JHOOPS2 · 04-02-2012, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warriortogo

It is nice. Is it possible to modify for a 135i?

No.

bklounge · 04-02-2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHOOPS2

No.

Anything is possible with enough $$$

Papethova · 04-02-2012, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bklounge

Anything is possible with enough $$$

I dont think the muffler placement is possible that way on a 135, I cant remember exactly but I believe that space is full on the 135.

03-31-2012, 10:45 PM	#25
///M1 Brigadier General Drives: Many Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 212/305 Posts: 3,080 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1///M [0.00] 2008 Audi RS4 [0.00] 2000 BMW E39 M5 (sold) [0.00] 2008 BMW 135i (sold) [0.00]	In my case the passenger side is too close to the inner part of the diffuser. I played with the adjustment for a while, seemed I got it better but after a full heat cycle it went back to looking pretty much like before the adjustment... __________________ *2011 BMW E82 1///M: AW, ZPP, ZCV, HK, Sirius, Apps; Akra CF+Valve control, MadDad mids, K&N, Forge FMIC, P3gauge, EuroTails, Tint, CF Mirrors+Spoiler+Roof Wrap, 10mm H&Rs, IND grills+gills, xCDV, LUX AE 2008 Audi B7 RS 4: Sprint Blue, Exclusive Euro Recaro Interior, Premium+Titanium Package, EPL Tune, Stasis Ohlins MS coilovers, Milltek valved exhaust+DownPipes, Stoptech SS lines, Tint, ADR V1, Lidatek, Lamin-X, Rotiform SNA 19x10" wheels, 275/30/19 PSSs, Euro flat-bottom steering wheel, JHM SSK Last edited by ///M1; 04-19-2012 at 11:09 PM.*

04-01-2012, 12:42 PM	#32
EINSER M Brigadier General Drives: 2011 E82 1M Join Date: May 2006 Location: 34.1064° N, 117.5922° W, 300m altitude Posts: 4,441 iTrader: (29) Garage List 2011 E82 1M \| CURRENT [3.84] 2012 E82 135 \| CURRENT [2.00] 2011 E90 335 \| CURRENT [5.00] 2006 E60 550 \| CURRENT [0.00] 2007 E85 Z4M\| SOLD [1.50] 2003 E53 X5 4.6is S ... [4.50] 2008 E92 328 \| SOLD [0.00] 2008 E82 135 \| SOLD [0.00] 2008 E90 335 \| SOLD [0.00] 2003 E46 M3 \| SOLD [3.75] 2006 E90 330 \| SOLD [5.00] 2003 E46 330ZHP \| SOLD [0.00]	cant this be adjusted via a tweak of the hangers in the rear? i agree with this kind of money spent you dont want crooked ass shit tips in the rear.... __________________ 2011 E82 1M AW \| 419 of 740 CLICK HERE: EINSER M's Темникова E82 AW 1M build thread

04-01-2012, 02:28 PM	#33
Artemis Colonel Drives: 1M (VO) Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,276 iTrader: (0)	Should have more clearance than the one in the pictures above, otherwise the hot tips might rub against the rear valence/bumper during drives. Check the videos below to see its movements during driving. See 01:43-02:39 (Akra 1M test) See 00:31-00:35 (Akra 1M commercial) __________________ “For ’tis the mind that makes the body rich” (W. Shakespeare, The Taming of the Shrew, Act 4, Scene 3)

04-01-2012, 10:02 PM	#35
sparoz Brigadier General Drives: VO 1///M; AW X3 30d Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 4,524 iTrader: (0)	I can accept a company not be perfect as there are always the human factor involve. I will keep my purchase on hold until the outcome from Steve. I just want to make sure if I have a problem, I am being looked after. __________________ 1///M - Valencia Orange X3 30d - Alpine White Under Six Seconds http://www.under6s.com

04-02-2012, 12:27 AM	#39
///M1 Brigadier General Drives: Many Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 212/305 Posts: 3,080 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1///M [0.00] 2008 Audi RS4 [0.00] 2000 BMW E39 M5 (sold) [0.00] 2008 BMW 135i (sold) [0.00]	Mine were aligned well upon initial install, just as the last photo above by Alpine ^^^. However after a few heat cycles they 'drifted' and could not restore the perfect fit. I have a couple of thousands miles on the exhaust now and even though we tried our best to realign it last week, it looks as per the pics I posted above. There really is not much one can do in terms of directional/sideway adjustments (short of the tips of course but those can just go inward/forward, not leftward/rightward). Probably gonna get the Revozport diffuser eventually and the design of it (fins) will ensure the exhaust doesn't hit the diffuser, so again, based on my experience fitment is far from perfect. Hoping me and Steve are the sole exception. __________________ *2011 BMW E82 1///M: AW, ZPP, ZCV, HK, Sirius, Apps; Akra CF+Valve control, MadDad mids, K&N, Forge FMIC, P3gauge, EuroTails, Tint, CF Mirrors+Spoiler+Roof Wrap, 10mm H&Rs, IND grills+gills, xCDV, LUX AE 2008 Audi B7 RS 4*: Sprint Blue, Exclusive Euro Recaro Interior, Premium+Titanium Package, EPL Tune, Stasis Ohlins MS coilovers, Milltek valved exhaust+DownPipes, Stoptech SS lines, Tint, ADR V1, Lidatek, Lamin-X, Rotiform SNA 19x10" wheels, 275/30/19 PSSs, Euro flat-bottom steering wheel, JHM SSK

04-01-2012, 06:51 AM	#27
Dackelone Moderator Drives: 135i Silber mit/Rot 6MT N54 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany Posts: 13,048 iTrader: (0)	I've seen mechanics stick a broom handle or small baseball bat into the exhausts of cars and "tweak" them into alignment. Not sure IF titanium bends though!? Just a thought.

04-01-2012, 12:04 PM	#29
GTR_Steve Private Drives: BMW 1M Coupe Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Norwich, Norfolk UK Posts: 50 iTrader: (0)	My issues are similar to ///M1, the clearance side to side and upwards are both issues. I took it to a company that manufactures exhausts on Friday. They were not impressed! Titanium does not respond to 'tweaks' well and they would not do this. The nature of the joints make it difficult to adjust. My installation results in the right side tail pipes protruding approx 10 mm more than the left, this can be seen across the whole of the rear box when viewed from underneath. I have been given an email address at Akrapovic. I received a response earlier in the week along the lines of sorry you are having problems, all of our other customers are happy. There was also a promise to look in to it with the R&D department, I've not heard anything further as yet. I would encourage all others with issues to raise this with the contact I have been given, Reven Mitja in the marketing department mitja.reven@akrapovic.si

04-01-2012, 12:31 PM	#30
Papethova Colonel Drives: '08 135/ '11 1M Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: at Death Valley 127 Posts: 2,856 iTrader: (0)	Well my purchase is now on hold

04-01-2012, 12:33 PM	#31
NC Private Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NC Posts: 90 iTrader: (0)	I was seriously considering the Akrapovic with the wireless kit but after seeing all of these fitment issues I'm steering clear. The sad part is it does not appear to be an isolated issue. Hope they step up to the plate and make it right especially for what they cost.

04-01-2012, 03:41 PM	#34
Ian///M Brigadier General Drives: 1M E82 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Oz Posts: 4,528 iTrader: (0)	I doubt that commercial is the REAL sound

04-01-2012, 10:38 PM	#36
RaptorKTM Colonel Drives: 1 M Coupe Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,366 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 M [0.00]	seen a ton of 1 M's with the system never heard of this issue. Id Call corporate Im sure they will take care of it or replace it. Not saying you did something wrong, but id confirm the install was done all correctly. THe pipes leave slight room for adjustment. I definitely wouldn't fight it. If it doesn't fit right then it doesn't fit. What I do know is Akrapovic will take care of it. I have not ever been this happy with an Exhaust. On top of that it sounds way better then the videos.

04-01-2012, 10:53 PM	#37
Alpine* Colonel Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,900 iTrader: (0)	Yeh, what he said ^

04-01-2012, 11:09 PM	#38
Alpine* Colonel Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,900 iTrader: (0)	They are a very solid unit, to "adjust" them with a broom for example once mounted would be very difficult. Hope this helps as a reference from how well mine seem to be located.

04-02-2012, 12:46 AM	#40
Warriortogo Enlisted Member Drives: 2011 Z4 35is 2008 135i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CA HK UK Posts: 47 iTrader: (0)	It is nice. Is it possible to modify for a 135i? __________________ 2011 Z4 35is Alpine White DCT Alcon BBK KW V3 Supersprint Exhaust Procede 2008 135i Le Blue Alcon BBK JB4 Hartge Exhaust H&R Sway Bar M3 Suspension Forge DV Forge FMIC H&R premuim damper Kit

04-02-2012, 09:43 AM	#41
wabbit wabbit! Drives: ///1M Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mexico Posts: 200 iTrader: (1)	i just realized that mine is not an alignment issue, at the start up the car with the closed valve ( white) the annoying sound present itself, but if I put the start up the car with the open valve (red) it doesn't , I'm wondering why? any idea?

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search