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      05-03-2012, 07:08 PM   #309
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What is DOT seals?
Department Of Transportation stamp of approval.
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      05-03-2012, 07:41 PM   #310
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I thought with US Spec cars you could opt for adaptive braking? Or do they all come with it...?

My options sheet doesn't list any option for adaptive brake lights.. is it just a coding thing?
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What is DOT seals?

Thanks.

The US's Department of Tranportation seals or stamps that every headlight and tail light must have. These blacklines don't have them, that is why BMW NA does not sell them in the US. They are technicaly illegal for sale or use in the states.

IF you open your trunk and look at the black area on the tail lights(the part that sits near the trunk rubber gasket)... you will see the DOT (and EU)stampings.
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      05-03-2012, 10:16 PM   #312
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I thought with US Spec cars you could opt for adaptive braking? Or do they all come with it...?

My options sheet doesn't list any option for adaptive brake lights.. is it just a coding thing?

All US cars have that "two stage" braking lights. On hard braking the inner lamps come on a second after the brake lights come on.

EU cars have that feature where the third brake light flashes under very hard braking and IF you continue to slow down HARD... under 70 kph(I think) to a dead stop the hazzard(foru way flashers) lights will also flash. US DOT says that flashing of the hazzards would confuse moterists so US cars don't get that feature.

Yes, it can be coded - if you so desire.
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      05-03-2012, 10:33 PM   #313
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All US cars have that "two stage" braking lights. On hard braking the inner lamps come on a second after the brake lights come on.

EU cars have that feature where the third brake light flashes under very hard braking and IF you continue to slow down HARD... under 70 kph(I think) to a dead stop the hazzard(foru way flashers) lights will also flash. US DOT says that flashing of the hazzards would confuse moterists so US cars don't get that feature.

Yes, it can be coded - if you so desire.
What about the people who just swap the light switches? Can I do the lego mod and still get access with no programming as my car is 02/09 build.
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What about the people who just swap the light switches? Can I do the lego mod and still get access with no programming as my car is 02/09 build.
Yes
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      05-03-2012, 10:59 PM   #315
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What about the people who just swap the light switches? Can I do the lego mod and still get access with no programming as my car is 02/09 build.

Yes. The Lego mod is just for the rear brake fog(s). The two stage brake lights also use those same fog lights when braking hard. IF you have the brake fogs on and you brake hard - othing will happen.
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      05-03-2012, 11:17 PM   #316
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Anyone with a 2012 that obviously already has the LCI taillights switching to Blackline ones? I'm curious to see comparison pics if anyone is doing this. I just don't see a ton of difference between the Blackline and regular LCI lights.
An unlit side by side comparison will be nice, anyone???
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      05-04-2012, 07:49 AM   #317
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An unlit side by side comparison will be nice, anyone???

Here you go...

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So come to find out there are 2 versions of these tailights, regular LCI and BLACKLINE LCI. I like the BLACKLINE better, and will try to source them from Schmiedmann.

There is only ONE version of the LCI blacklines.
But with two different specs, right?! High and basic
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      05-04-2012, 09:31 AM   #319
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But with two different specs, right?! High and basic
Today while I was poking around the www.1erforum.de I did see two blackline light listed. One is referred to as "basic" and one as "high" as in Highline(I think). Just like for the e87 four door hatch, BMW makes a LOW and a HIGH line version. Most people seem to like/buy the highline version.

I can not tell the difference between the these two lights. Maybe it is the way the LEDs are arranged like for the e87 Blacklines.


Here are the part numbers for both e82 LCI Blacklines...

(this is the kit that everyone is posting pics of here in this thread and seems to like/buy!)
Die Blackline HIGH TNR. 63212225282 liegen bei
250 Euro


http://www.leebmann24.de/catalogsear...5282&x=18&y=13

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Die Blackline LOW TNR. 63212225381 liegen bei
186 Euro


http://www.leebmann24.de/catalogsear...25381&x=17&y=9

LOW Blacklines...
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      05-04-2012, 10:22 AM   #320
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Thanks for the comparison pics. I do see there is quite a bit of difference in these lights now. I will not pay the $400 or so to switch them out for my LCIs, but if I had an '08-'11 model, this is a mod I would definitely consider doing.
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      05-04-2012, 11:24 AM   #321
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      05-04-2012, 11:32 AM   #322
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lmao, someone hasnt read the thread.
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lmao, someone hasnt read the thread.
haha na, I just read the first post and the last update. sounded like the group buy may still happen. am I wrong on this? I'm in no hurry
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      05-04-2012, 12:11 PM   #324
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haha na, I just read the first post and the last update. sounded like the group buy may still happen. am I wrong on this? I'm in no hurry
it might happen but most likely not. According to DOT stuff and Govt being a bunch of chodes..
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it might happen but most likely not. According to DOT stuff and Govt being a bunch of chodes..
I can put him down. BUT like I said earlier this is LIKELY not to happen after the holdup... your better off ordering a set yourself if you can't wait (which might be a waste of time given the facts we have...)
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Dackelone,
Thanks for the comparison pics, really can see the difference.
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i dont understand why you guys are still persisting for a group buy? what could you possibly be saving on a $340 set of lights. I have had my lights in for a number of weeks now. I think all these delays are due to the sheer order size for the group buy! Hats off to the groupbuy organiser for his/her persistence but I think the extra $ are worth the shorter wait. Just sayin
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I don't see any difference in Dack's comparision pix. What am I missing??
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I don't see any difference in Dack's comparision pix. What am I missing??
Only this picture really shows it:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/attac...7&d=1336135712

If you can't see a difference between the left (blackline) and the right (original LCI), I can't help you.

EDIT: Oops, as woosh points out below, you must be talking about High and Basic. My mistake. Disregard.

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Today while I was poking around the www.1erforum.de I did see two blackline light listed. One is referred to as "basic" and one as "high" as in Highline(I think). Just like for the e87 four door hatch, BMW makes a LOW and a HIGH line version. Most people seem to like/buy the highline version.

I can not tell the difference between the these two lights. Maybe it is the way the LEDs are arranged like for the e87 Blacklines.


Here are the part numbers for both e82 LCI Blacklines...

(this is the kit that everyone is posting pics of here in this thread and seems to like/buy!)
Die Blackline HIGH TNR. 63212225282 liegen bei
250 Euro


http://www.leebmann24.de/catalogsear...5282&x=18&y=13

HIGH Blacklines...
Attachment 686210



(But there is also this other kit....)
Die Blackline LOW TNR. 63212225381 liegen bei
186 Euro


http://www.leebmann24.de/catalogsear...25381&x=17&y=9

LOW Blacklines...
Attachment 686211





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Yup that's correct Dack

When I first started searching for these lights on ebay.de (before schmeidmann listed them) I noticed the two variations... I guess my post about that was lost in the multitude of pages/threads about these lights hahaha


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Only this picture really shows it:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/attac...7&d=1336135712

If you can't see a difference between the left (blackline) and the right (original LCI), I can't help you.
No, the comparison (in post # 319, which I think 'new21er' is asking about) is between the HIGH and BASIC version of the Blackline lights. There's about a $50-100 difference between the two. When lit up you'd know which version it is High is the gas strip one... whereas Basic doesn't light up to the same extent, I don't know what it's structure is unfortunately. But it doesn't look anywhere as good.

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