N54 Mid pipe VS N55 Mid pipe Comparison VS Meisterschaft

[clived]

Originally Posted by ChrisBuer

Do GT Haus (Meisterschaft) sell in the UK at all? Or can you only order them in America?

Slightly cheeky comment from me here but if DMS say "they had tested replacing the secondary and primary cats with bypass pipes, but it made very little difference" (even though that flies in the face of everyone else's testing...) what are you hoping for from the GT Haus pipes? ;-)

Obviously Evolve can supply and fit some quality decatted DPs for you if you are looking for a UK supplier. Personally, I recommend it, but it does make the car a fair bit louder at start-up. If you're going to Ace Cafe I'll try to leave mind off long enough to do a cold start to demonstrate!

[JohnCena]

Originally Posted by lcrain

Damn, I would love to do catless downpipes. But don't want to deal with emissions issues.

Downpipe Fix from burger

[clived]

Originally Posted by PyratVO

Downpipe Fix from burger

...will turn the light off, not reduce the emissions. What sort of emissions issues is lcrain worried about?

[ChrisBuer]

Originally Posted by clived

Slightly cheeky comment from me here but if DMS say "they had tested replacing the secondary and primary cats with bypass pipes, but it made very little difference" (even though that flies in the face of everyone else's testing...) what are you hoping for from the GT Haus pipes? ;-)

Obviously Evolve can supply and fit some quality decatted DPs for you if you are looking for a UK supplier. Personally, I recommend it, but it does make the car a fair bit louder at start-up. If you're going to Ace Cafe I'll try to leave mind off long enough to do a cold start to demonstrate!

Hehe nothing cheeky in your comments at all

DMS have only tested a catback system as far as I know and said they didn't record noticeable gains. I don't believe they have tested with secondary and primary cats removed. This was literally off the back of a 5 min conversation where I said "shall I replace the exhaust" and was told "we've seen little gains from doing so".

The reason I'm interested now is that I heard Shane's car last weekend and liked the way it sounded with the N55 pipe fitted so I'm close to doing this myself. However I'm still wondering if it's not just worth going the whole hog and changing the catback as well. Basically I don't want to fit the N55 pipes then have to ditch them for something else if I change the exhaust. I also heard Matts car with the Eisenmann system and that sounded mean as well.

However having heard the sound clip on the first page of this thread with the N55 and exhaust fitted, it sounds spot on. There is so much choice with exhausts out there that I'm struggling to pick one, but if it's sound alone, then I like the sound of the exhaust and mid pipes on this thread

So these downpipes Evolve supply, do they remove both secondary and primary cats?

Is there any list of which systems provide the best power increases also?

[clived]

I was quoting you Chris on the DMS / don't bother decatting comment ;-)

I'd be very cautious about changing mids and downpipes. The downpipes have a bigger effect on noise (but also on performance) than the mids, but doing both together is, in my opinion, a little too loud and droney for every day use. The secondary cats are in the midpipes, so by definition downpipes don't remove them, only the primary cats. Evolve then code out (no need for any electrical plug-ins) the emissions warning light in their map.

Where abouts in Essex are you?

[JohnCena]

NJ will set the readiness codes for emissions

[lcrain]

Originally Posted by clived

...will turn the light off, not reduce the emissions. What sort of emissions issues is lcrain worried about?

I believe by removing the primary cats I will fail TX emissions tests. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

[JohnCena]

Just an update the DPs will be in this week sorry for the delay fellas

[EINSER M]

Originally Posted by JohnCena

Just an update the DPs will be in this week sorry for the delay fellas

im watching you cena...
better give me your digits so i keep checking this weekend

[///M1]

Originally Posted by JohnCena

Just an update the DPs will be in this week sorry for the delay fellas

What made you go from a Pirat to a John Cena VO?

[EINSER M]

Originally Posted by ///M1

What made you go from a Pirat to a John Cena VO?

LOL curious T-
i laughed ALL DAY every time i saw his new handle on the forum

[///M1]

Originally Posted by EINSER M

LOL curious T-
i laughed ALL DAY every time i saw his new handle on the forum

Too much gym juice can be bad for you

[EINSER M]

Originally Posted by ///M1

Too much gym juice can be bad for you

oh but in his case
sorry today im way

[JohnCena]

Downpipes in - Wonder under load how it will be.

[JohnCena]

Originally Posted by EINSER M

oh but in his case
sorry today im way

Wait till I come out for bimmer fest west mwhahahhahaha ! Lmao

[EINSER M]

Originally Posted by JohnCena

Wait till I come out for bimmer fest west mwhahahhahaha ! Lmao

T-21 broski

[JohnCena]

BOOM!!!

as requested the main contender!

[ozinaldo]

JohnCena, thanks for posting, yor car sounds like something else, like an exotic

[JohnCena]

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

JohnCena, thanks for posting, yor car sounds like something else, like an exotic

Thanks bro i love it

[Tuned1M]

How's the throttle response now that the dp's have been installed? What about the exhaust smell in the cabin? Is it that noticeable?

[JohnCena]

Originally Posted by Tuned1M

How's the throttle response now that the dp's have been installed? What about the exhaust smell in the cabin? Is it that noticeable?

Talk about an increase

[M///1rider]

With a tune this setup would have been even louder on the dyno, but mine was just as loud