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      05-16-2012, 02:22 PM   #1
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BMW 135iS

For those who might have missed it: the all-new BMW 135is (Autumn 2012).
(repost because the initial thread has vanished).

Some info:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691753
http://www.bmwblog.com/2012/05/15/wo...d-convertible/

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It's basically a 135i with a bunch of parts from the BMW Performance line.
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It's basically a 135i with a bunch of parts from the BMW Performance line.
so was the 335is
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so was the 335is
I never said it wasn't
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Dackel's infamous screen shot of November 2010 already featured a "135is". But that probably referred to the 135i (225kW):
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Also of interest (IF you look up that engine listing) is the fact that BMW will also have a 135iS model in 2012. Same HP though, at 225Kw or 306 Hp. The 135iS has engine code: N55B3OUO
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so was the 335is
But you can get the 335is with a DCT and the "is" had the n54 and the '11-'12 335i had the n55
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      05-18-2012, 06:13 AM   #7
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Dackel's infamous screen shot of November 2010 already featured a "135is". But that probably referred to the 135i (225kW):

(see: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...13#post8382613)

Artemis - I'm glad you re-posted my lap top screen shot. When I read the 135iS headline the other day... my screen-shot was the very first thing I thought of.

Its obvious that BMW had this planned this all along. The other thing they changed their mind about was the 1M engine power level. Looks like that (332Kw) 451 PS engine will (probably) end up in the new F80 M3. Can you imagine what a little monster the 1M would have been with THAT engine! 1M CSL anyone?
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Looks like that (332Kw) 451 PS engine will (probably) end up in the new F80 M3. Can you imagine what a little monster the 1M would have been with THAT engine! 1M CSL anyone?
The 1er in the video below is not even a 1M, but its tuners claim that it features 500hp...

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I never said it wasn't


Whoa ... just noticed your sig update. The M is sold?

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Whoa ... just noticed your sig update. The M is sold?
See: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664260
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The 1er in the video below is not even a 1M, but its tuners claim that it features 500hp...
At last years Welt 2.0 meeting the lady who owns the "pussy wagon" claimed to have 550 PS. She was from CH and had spent A LOT of Swiss Francs on her 135i.


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Those shut lines........ looks like its had front end bump!
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Those shut lines........ looks like its had front end bump!
Noop! Just a poor fitting CF hood. Most I have seen look like that. Poor QC.
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Noop! Just a poor fitting CF hood. Most I have seen look like that. Poor QC.
That's exactly what I was getting at

I think I will pass on the CF bonnet, it's always a gamble.......
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Artemis - I'm glad you re-posted my lap top screen shot. When I read the 135iS headline the other day... my screen-shot was the very first thing I thought of.

Its obvious that BMW had this planned this all along. The other thing they changed their mind about was the 1M engine power level. Looks like that (332Kw) 451 PS engine will (probably) end up in the new F80 M3. Can you imagine what a little monster the 1M would have been with THAT engine! 1M CSL anyone?
All the way for a 1M CSL but the weight has to get along well under 1495 kg
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So...

We know BMW will produce the 135i (e82) for at least another year. Maybe two.

I wonder what the final send off will be? Or is this it(135iS) ???
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All the way for a 1M CSL but the weight has to get along well under 1495 kg
Well... BMW will be starting to build their i3 & i8's at Leipzig next year. These will be the first BMW's to extensively use CF instead of traditional metal body work. Whats to say BMW doesn't make a few e82 fenders and hood/trunk lids in CF as a send off? Both cars are built at the same factory. I (as others) would LOVE to see a light weight 1M CSL-like product.

I just wonder IF this 135iS is really the end or not. I guess we will have to wait for late summer to see IF BMW really ends 1M production at Leipzig.


Btw... a few months ago I toured Audi's Inglolstadt Werk, where they built the A3/A4/A5/A7's and also the RS3. I was surprised to see that Audi uses CF front fenders on the RS3. That must make BMW think.
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even though BMW makes a 1M CSL i doubt it will have 451 PS , more likely 350 PS . it would be great that 1M CSL weighs around 1350 kg
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At last years Welt 2.0 meeting the lady who owns the "pussy wagon" claimed to have 550 PS. She was from CH and had spent A LOT of Swiss Francs on her 135i.
Bling-Bling...

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Looks like that (332Kw) 451 PS engine will (probably) end up in the new F80 M3. Can you imagine what a little monster the 1M would have been with THAT engine! 1M CSL anyone?
The 1er in the video below is not even a 1M, but its tuners claim that it features 500hp...

Hmmm, perhaps false advertising?
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I just wonder IF this 135iS is really the end or not. I guess we will have to wait for late summer to see IF BMW really ends 1M production at Leipzig.
Let's ask ourselves why wouldn't they end it? First, they already stopped taking orders some time ago (anyone knows any new orders taken in any market after the end of April?), I assume no, then this means one thing only: no plans and intention to produce more 1Ms after July. The factory must have been allocated with a new plan of production already which should fill the vacancy after 1M.

Second, how are they gonna sell the F20 M135i in Europe and E82 135is in US which are both scheduled for production starting July/August, if they don't stop the 1M production? These two are announced to be top of their lines in their respective markets so the plan is very neat and clear imo.

I think these new two top 1ers are representing a secondary function of our 1M: It created a good image, really shaked things since 1 year in a good way and now disappearing quickly. Because the mission is over. Now, they are gonna sell the stuff they wanna sell more and this is thanks to the interest 1M fueled and this time they won't be providing bargains too. BMW is not fond of selling us cars as cheap as they can (exceptionally they did with 1M in order to guarantee interest and success which was fundamental), like every real and good business their ultimate goal is selling us cars as expensive as they can. Normal.

I don't see any new 1Ms built after July, every indication points this. And I bet when we have the M2 in probably 2 or 3 years, it will be a great car but won't be a bargain like 1M.
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At last years Welt 2.0 meeting the lady who owns the "pussy wagon" claimed to have 550 PS. She was from CH and had spent A LOT of Swiss Francs on her 135i.
WRONG !!! ...on so many levels
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