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sparoz · 12-25-2012, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by koastal

Saw your car the other day. Very nice. Appears you may live next door to a mate of mine

Does the bbk still have some some slack before taking up ?
Had that prob for a while with last pad / rotor change. Gone now thank god as it made threshold braking very awkward.

Really? I know we both go to Knacky for tyres.

Still a little gap, but seems to be getting better each time I drive. It doesn't seem to be noticeable now.

sparoz · 12-28-2012, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koastal

Saw your car the other day. Very nice. Appears you may live next door to a mate of mine

Does the bbk still have some some slack before taking up ?
Had that prob for a while with last pad / rotor change. Gone now thank god as it made threshold braking very awkward.

Had a good drive today, and the slack is still evident. How did you solve the problem? When I release the brakes after it starts bitting, they work awesome. However, after I drive for a little bit, the slack is there again.

Anyone else have any idea that would be good.

pavo335 · 12-28-2012, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by koastal

Saw your car the other day. Very nice. Appears you may live next door to a mate of mine

Does the bbk still have some some slack before taking up ?
Had that prob for a while with last pad / rotor change. Gone now thank god as it made threshold braking very awkward.

Had a good drive today, and the slack is still evident. How did you solve the problem? When I release the brakes after it starts bitting, they work awesome. However, after I drive for a little bit, the slack is there again.

Anyone else have any idea that would be good.

They were bedded in?? Is it slack or soft pedal?

sparoz · 12-28-2012, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavo335

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by koastal

Saw your car the other day. Very nice. Appears you may live next door to a mate of mine

Does the bbk still have some some slack before taking up ?
Had that prob for a while with last pad / rotor change. Gone now thank god as it made threshold braking very awkward.

Had a good drive today, and the slack is still evident. How did you solve the problem? When I release the brakes after it starts bitting, they work awesome. However, after I drive for a little bit, the slack is there again.

Anyone else have any idea that would be good.

They were bedded in?? Is it slack or soft pedal?

I think it is slack as how koastal described. If I lightly touch the brakes there is a click but no stopping but a little more than there is feedback and behave normally. Once engaged and released completely and apply immediately there is no problem.

If I engage the brakes quickly enough then it doesn't seem to have any problem either.

It was bedded according to instructions.

Ian///M · 12-29-2012, 01:15 AM

Bleed the fluid again, doesn't sound like it was done properly. Needs to be done by BMW dealer.

pavo335 · 12-29-2012, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian///M

Bleed the fluid again, doesn't sound like it was done properly. Needs to be done by BMW dealer.

BMW dealer???? Any monkey can bleed brakes

sparoz · 12-29-2012, 08:17 AM

I might try to bed it again and see how it goes. Might just need some hard driving for the callipers to adjust. Failing that, may be trying to bleed it again.

It doesn't feel spongie - the brakes pedal needs to travel further before it bites, so it shouldn't be air in they system.

koastal · 12-29-2012, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparoz

I might try to bed it again and see how it goes. Might just need some hard driving for the callipers to adjust. Failing that, may be trying to bleed it again.

It doesn't feel spongie - the brakes pedal needs to travel further before it bites, so it shouldn't be air in they system.

When mine had this issue it was immediately after I changed pads rotors and front brake lines.
It felt like the pads were retracting further than they needed to. This issue disappeared after a track day. Perhaps a late nite spirited fang to Noosa through the roundabouts will help. Always makes me feel better

sparoz · 12-29-2012, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koastal

When mine had this issue it was immediately after I changed pads rotors and front brake lines.
It felt like the pads were retracting further than they needed to. This issue disappeared after a track day. Perhaps a late nite spirited fang to Noosa through the roundabouts will help. Always makes me feel better

Thanks, definitely, will try to bed it again, and then put some heat into the brakes after.

sparoz · 01-17-2013, 06:27 AM

Took it to a mechanic closer to work today recommended by my tyre guys (highly recommended! - PM for details). They bleed the system with their ATE pressure bleeder and got all the air out on the first go. Also found that the rear pins and spring on the callipers wasn't inserted properly causing the loud click when braking. He also adjusted the handbrakes as well.

Now, with it fixed - the brakes are just sensational. I have so much control over the brakes now. Now, just need to see how good they are on track.

I had the CDV removed as well, and I have no idea how much better it has become. I always thought I was a crappy driver with the poor gear change, but it is just CDV doing its nasties. Always thought CDV is there to design to save the clutch but I have to conclude that it is only there to protect it if you dump the clutch. Otherwise, what it does is just create unnecessary slips.

Now, I am happy

.

Alpine* · 01-17-2013, 06:35 AM

oystero · 01-17-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sparoz

Now, with it fixed - the brakes are just sensational.

Nice work. Glad you got everything sorted

TimMc · 01-17-2013, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparoz

Took it to a mechanic closer to work today recommended by my tyre guys (highly recommended! - PM for details). They bleed the system with their ATE pressure bleeder and got all the air out on the first go. Also found that the rear pins and spring on the callipers wasn't inserted properly causing the loud click when braking. He also adjusted the handbrakes as well.

Now, with it fixed - the brakes are just sensational. I have so much control over the brakes now. Now, just need to see how good they are on track.

I had the CDV removed as well, and I have no idea how much better it has become. I always thought I was a crappy driver with the poor gear change, but it is just CDV doing its nasties. Always thought CDV is there to design to save the clutch but I have to conclude that it is only there to protect it if you dump the clutch. Otherwise, what it does is just create unnecessary slips.

Now, I am happy

.

Great to hear Steve. I bought one of those pressure bleeders a few years ago. Good investment if you like to DIY.
CDV is there to save the whole driveline not just the clutch but it makes the clutch take up point sooo much more predictable. Have you got a clutch stop yet too? Very easy to fit and nearly as good a change as the CDV removal.

sparoz · 01-17-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TimMc

Great to hear Steve. I bought one of those pressure bleeders a few years ago. Good investment if you like to DIY.
CDV is there to save the whole driveline not just the clutch but it makes the clutch take up point sooo much more predictable. Have you got a clutch stop yet too? Very easy to fit and nearly as good a change as the CDV removal.

Not yet with a clutch stop. Will definitely looked into it.

sparoz · 03-28-2013, 08:58 PM

Finally, got the car onto the track finally yesterday and gave the brakes a good workout. They were absolutely sensational! Ran a 28 laps run second stint at QR and it didn't fade at all. Unfortunately after 68 laps the car was out of fuel. Highest temp I saw at around 30 ambient was 135 even after the long runs. The PSS was great I thought, and hold up very well, and looks like it works with a great range of temp - not much difference at lap 28 and lap 1.

The tiny little uptake which inconsistently happens on the brakes are gone after the track day. The pads probably just need some speed for it to get set.

Alpine* · 03-28-2013, 11:17 PM

You never mentioned the fun factor rating Steve, I assume we're talking 11/10?

Pics?

sparoz · 03-28-2013, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpine*

You never mentioned the fun factor rating Steve, I assume we're talking 11/10?

Pics?

Thoroughly enjoy myself

- not a day for pics - not sure if Biz took any. Got logs for all my laps though.

sparoz · 03-28-2013, 11:59 PM

There you go

- someone just emailed me one

WAY · 03-29-2013, 01:23 AM

Beat the GT3s yet? :P

Alpine* · 03-29-2013, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WAY

Beat the GT3s yet? :P

God help him when the 991 GT3's get on the track

$260k drive away in Canberra.

sparoz · 03-29-2013, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WAY

Beat the GT3s yet? :P

I can see the potential

.

koastal · 03-30-2013, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WAY

Beat the GT3s yet? :P

Ha ha
There was 2 GT3 s on the day one RS and the other a touring.
Neither were threatened by a vo 1m
Mind you a 1. 8 street civic gave them a hurry up.

Good to see that 1m on the track tho and was a good day

12-29-2012, 01:15 AM	#335
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12-29-2012, 08:17 AM	#337
sparoz Brigadier General Drives: VO 1///M; AW X3 30d Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 4,524 iTrader: (0)	I might try to bed it again and see how it goes. Might just need some hard driving for the callipers to adjust. Failing that, may be trying to bleed it again. It doesn't feel spongie - the brakes pedal needs to travel further before it bites, so it shouldn't be air in they system. __________________ 1///M - Valencia Orange X3 30d - Alpine White Under Six Seconds http://www.under6s.com

01-17-2013, 06:27 AM	#340
sparoz Brigadier General Drives: VO 1///M; AW X3 30d Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 4,524 iTrader: (0)	Took it to a mechanic closer to work today recommended by my tyre guys (highly recommended! - PM for details). They bleed the system with their ATE pressure bleeder and got all the air out on the first go. Also found that the rear pins and spring on the callipers wasn't inserted properly causing the loud click when braking. He also adjusted the handbrakes as well. Now, with it fixed - the brakes are just sensational. I have so much control over the brakes now. Now, just need to see how good they are on track. I had the CDV removed as well, and I have no idea how much better it has become. I always thought I was a crappy driver with the poor gear change, but it is just CDV doing its nasties. Always thought CDV is there to design to save the clutch but I have to conclude that it is only there to protect it if you dump the clutch. Otherwise, what it does is just create unnecessary slips. Now, I am happy . __________________ 1///M - Valencia Orange X3 30d - Alpine White Under Six Seconds http://www.under6s.com

03-28-2013, 08:58 PM	#345
sparoz Brigadier General Drives: VO 1///M; AW X3 30d Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 4,524 iTrader: (0)	Finally, got the car onto the track finally yesterday and gave the brakes a good workout. They were absolutely sensational! Ran a 28 laps run second stint at QR and it didn't fade at all. Unfortunately after 68 laps the car was out of fuel. Highest temp I saw at around 30 ambient was 135 even after the long runs. The PSS was great I thought, and hold up very well, and looks like it works with a great range of temp - not much difference at lap 28 and lap 1. The tiny little uptake which inconsistently happens on the brakes are gone after the track day. The pads probably just need some speed for it to get set. __________________ 1///M - Valencia Orange X3 30d - Alpine White Under Six Seconds http://www.under6s.com

03-28-2013, 11:59 PM	#348
sparoz Brigadier General Drives: VO 1///M; AW X3 30d Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 4,524 iTrader: (0)	There you go - someone just emailed me one Attached Images __________________ 1///M - Valencia Orange X3 30d - Alpine White Under Six Seconds http://www.under6s.com Last edited by sparoz; 03-29-2013 at 12:04 AM.

01-17-2013, 06:35 AM	#341
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03-28-2013, 11:17 PM	#346
Alpine* Colonel Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,899 iTrader: (0)	You never mentioned the fun factor rating Steve, I assume we're talking 11/10? Pics?

03-29-2013, 01:23 AM	#349
WAY Brigadier General Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,798 iTrader: (0)	Beat the GT3s yet? :P

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