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      07-04-2012, 12:34 PM   #111
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looks like somone will have to come out with an OBII lock
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      07-04-2012, 01:06 PM   #112
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By the way? why was the 1M parked outside??

Shouldn't that car be in the garage locked away from jealous eyes?

unless you have better cars...
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This is an unfortunate situation and all my sympathy goes to the owners and others who've had their car stolen. But the most basic security system could have prevented this.

A Garage.

If you don't have a garage, well, I would reconsider buying any vehicle you can't afford to lose.
I think its the ideal situation for it to be garaged but not having a garage in parts of UK (some more than others) isn't a sign of lack of financial ability but just driven by the lack of space.

This is now picking up a lot more publicity, let's hope something comes out of it from BMW in some form of admittance to begin with, although that would be very unlikely.
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      07-04-2012, 01:17 PM   #113
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Wait a sec, dont BMW around thw world come with GPS tracking ? All modern BMW's sold in the US have GPS tracking ability.
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      07-04-2012, 01:21 PM   #114
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I think its the ideal situation for it to be garaged but not having a garage in parts of UK (some more than others) isn't a sign of lack of financial ability but just driven by the lack of space.

This is now picking up a lot more publicity, let's hope something comes out of it from BMW in some form of admittance to begin with, although that would be very unlikely.
I think, given its possible global financial scope BMW will resist till the last drop of blood in their veins before admitting the problem and start doing something about it. This is not really a 1M limited issue. This is about how easily accesible and how weakly designed their cars' safety&electronics architecture.

I would like to contribute in creating as big noise as possible though, no doubt about that.
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      07-04-2012, 01:23 PM   #115
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It pisses me off that these guys can copy and program a key in 3 minutes, but my dealer wants $800 for a key and programming for my E92 335 with CA
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      07-04-2012, 01:49 PM   #116
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So aside from this thread's existence, is there anything else we can do to get the attention of BMW and hopefully some sort of solution to this problem?

I'm sure if we email BMW we will get brushed aside.
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      07-04-2012, 02:04 PM   #117
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So aside from this thread's existence, is there anything else we can do to get the attention of BMW and hopefully some sort of solution to this problem?

I'm sure if we email BMW we will get brushed aside.
facebook page campaign?
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      07-04-2012, 02:57 PM   #118
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facebook page campaign?
+1

That video has the potential to go viral, too creepy maybe, but certainly WOW!
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      07-04-2012, 03:02 PM   #119
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It pisses me off that these guys can copy and program a key in 3 minutes, but my dealer wants $800 for a key and programming for my E92 335 with CA


Asking these guys to go legit with their key making service is most likely the second topic on everyone's mind. First there is that matter of fucking die and go to hell!

What pissed me off is that they are by four and are just too damn calculated: who's not working on the car is waiting in the darker area or trying to blind the cameras, so freaking sure of their case. BMW has made it so easy it's probably not even thrilling anymore for them.
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      07-04-2012, 03:30 PM   #120
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So aside from this thread's existence, is there anything else we can do to get the attention of BMW and hopefully some sort of solution to this problem?

I'm sure if we email BMW we will get brushed aside.
Tip the general car blogs like autoblog, jalopnik, etc with this thread and video might help it go viral.
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      07-04-2012, 04:43 PM   #121
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I agree we sould have BMW do something about this issue ASAP. like NOW.
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      07-04-2012, 05:47 PM   #122
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That video has the potential to go viral, too creepy maybe, but certainly WOW!
i think it already has. my dad said he saw it on the local news that the 1M could be stolen in under 3 mins. He was amazed.
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      07-04-2012, 06:20 PM   #123
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Total bummer. Sorry to read.

In my experience, a procede piggyback tuner with CAN-clear enabled makes OBD-II coding impossible. I bet it would defeat adding a key as well. So for N54 owners, I guess that's also a security feature.
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      07-04-2012, 07:01 PM   #124
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Guys, I wouldn't want to be making this video go viral... think about it, do you really want to make more would-be thieves around the world aware of this technique??
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      07-04-2012, 08:32 PM   #125
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Apparently www.garrisonlocks.co.uk will be releasing an OBD port clamp to prevent this form of attack shortly.
Hopefully they come up with an appropriate solution.

In the meantime, let's think of easy, creative solutions to make the car "undriveable" and/or at least discourage thieves to have a go at it.

Moving the OBD port, duct taping it, rewiring cables or pulling fuse #74 (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=29) floated already as ideas to address the OBD abuse vulnerability of the 1M.

Other idea: if the driver seat is moved to its minimum position (i.e. closest position to the steering wheel) + the back rest part of that seat is subsequently inclined towards the steering wheel (as if you got to reach for the back seats), then there must be a way to connect the inclined driver seat and the steering wheel with a chain (for example an ABUS motorbike chain with nylon sleeve to avoid scratching: http://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?Scree...4003318522857m). If the inclined driver seat and steering wheel are connected, it will be mechanically impossible to drive the car, even with a running engine: impossible to sit, reach for the pedals and have a look through the windscreen at the same time. And forcefully moving the driver seat backwards will be to no avail, because locked to the steering wheel.

We got to check for possible ways of locking the minimum seat position by blocking the seat rails, locking the driver seat in inclined position, connecting the driver seat with the steering wheel, etc.

Anyways, those with BMW Performance Seats have the advantage of seat belt holes in the upper part which are big enough to slide a chain through.

Just another thought.
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      07-04-2012, 08:42 PM   #126
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I guess its time to move the obd port to a secret area... and leave the original port in there with random half wires with 12v and other half to ground to destroy the tool when they do try...
"Secret area"? It's not like these thieves can't find it again. I think you probably mean a "secure area", right? More importantly the OBD needs to be disabled until the actual key has authenticated.
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      07-04-2012, 11:20 PM   #127
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When I had my wheels stolen from my 650i my cameras were flipped up. I didn't get to see the perps, but I was amazed how they bypassed alarm by cutting door and unlocking it.

At least u got to see the suspects...

Sucks to see that though
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      07-05-2012, 12:12 AM   #128
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Turn your wheels to a point where the car couldn't be rolled away and lock the steering wheel with the good 'ol Club anti-theft device.

www.theclub.com/

Not the prettiest by far but a nice added peace of mind for less than $50.
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      07-05-2012, 01:55 AM   #129
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Guys, I wouldn't want to be making this video go viral... think about it, do you really want to make more would-be thieves around the world aware of this technique??
i think EVERY thief already knows.
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      07-05-2012, 03:24 AM   #130
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The area the window is broken is the location I place the bar for the disklok, I gave it a try with the window down and the alarm active, I had to move the bar to get my hand down to the obd cover, in doing so the motion sensors picked up the disklok movement and the alarm activated.......Next I will be looking into man traps!

In the UK it is X5's top of the wanted list followed by 3 series M sport diesels and equivalent 5 and 1 series before M cars due to the smaller numbers around. Many are being stripped and sold on for parts as this generates less suspicion and there is a massive parts market making big money, so M cars are not worth the same in the parts game.

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      07-05-2012, 04:15 AM   #131
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This really seems effective. I will search and try to see if the actual success rate is really 100 %.
But can the thieves still pop the window, release the handbrake and roll the car away ?
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      07-05-2012, 04:39 AM   #132
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I'm sorry for the OP. I just went outside and removed the gate clicker from my car. There's is 5 tons of steel blocking them now.
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