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Adam135 · 08-07-2012, 01:11 AM

Pic...

bogart · 08-07-2012, 02:53 PM

You have the steptronic...

The "M3" paddles do not work as "plug and play" with the DCT... trust me, I've tried them.

Dackelone · 08-07-2012, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam135

Pic...

So do these paddles work on your steptronic?

EuroTunerz5 · 08-07-2012, 06:48 PM

I like but its not enough of an upgrade to justify the cost my friend! I want more aggressive paddles.

Mr Kleen · 08-08-2012, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogart

You have the steptronic...

The "M3" paddles do not work as "plug and play" with the DCT... trust me, I've tried them.

You try just the paddles or the entire M3 switch assembly?

bogart · 08-08-2012, 01:48 PM

Entire assembly. The paddles themselves cannot be swapped over to the N55 DCT assembly either.

EuroTunerz5 · 08-10-2012, 06:57 AM

That sucks... I still want the new m6 paddles

Mr Kleen · 08-10-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogart

Entire assembly. The paddles themselves cannot be swapped over to the N55 DCT assembly either.

I know that the M3 paddels won't fit our switches. Sucks that the entire switch assembly can't be swapped either.

Thanks for the info.

Swadeness · 08-10-2012, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogart

Entire assembly. The paddles themselves cannot be swapped over to the N55 DCT assembly either.

What specifically does not allow you to swap these paddles? Is the plug different, is the assembly a different shape etc?

bogart · 08-10-2012, 08:16 AM

Ya know, I'm really not sure. I think it takes some programming from the dealer to get them to work (which is probably really expensive), but I have no idea if it could actually be done. After playing around with it for a while, I decided the M3 paddles aren't really an upgrade from the stock DCT paddles... see below.

Here are the facts (remember this is for the 135i DCT only):

- They are plug-and-play on the 128i and 135i steptronic
- The plug is the same... it's a rectangle, 3-prong connection, but one wire is in a different location
- I tried every wire combination and still no go
- The assembly fits and fastens to the same location
- The paddle itself, from what I could feel has about the same tension and travel as the stock DCT paddle (I recently drove the new 3-series coupe with the steptronic but DCT-like paddles, and they had an extremely soft tension and little travel, which I did not like)... I was hoping with the M3 paddles that they would have a stronger tension, longer travel, and make some sort of sound (louder than the DCT "click").
- The M3 paddles are not really bigger in size than the DCT paddles, they just look different

ripper0306 · 08-11-2012, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dackelone

So do these paddles work on your steptronic?

bump !

Mr Kleen · 08-11-2012, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogart

- The M3 paddles are not really bigger in size than the DCT paddles, they just look different

I don't want the stock M3 paddles, but the M3 switch would allow me to use the extended paddles that a few companies sell. That's why I'm so curious.
Again, thanks for posting the info, much appreciated.

bogart · 08-11-2012, 06:06 PM

No problem. Glad I could be the guinea pig. Ended up getting my money back, so all is good.

Again, yes, the M3 paddles work on steptronic.

EuroTunerz5 · 08-13-2012, 07:37 AM

So to clarify the m3 paddles do or do not work with DCT?

strati1 · 08-13-2012, 08:46 AM

^^
they work plug and play with SMG, and DO NOT work with DCT

Mr Kleen · 08-13-2012, 10:38 AM

I keep checking this thread hoping that someone has managed to retrofit larger paddles to our 135 DCTs.

ripper0306 · 08-16-2012, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strati1

^^
they work plug and play with SMG, and DO NOT work with DCT

What are you calling SMG ?

before MY2010
(Steptronic ?)
or the M3 SMG.

Are they compatible with a 135i 08"

Mr Kleen · 08-16-2012, 05:03 PM

"SMG" is the automatic transmission (torque converter)

J Lau · 08-21-2012, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Kleen

"SMG" is the automatic transmission (torque converter)

SMG is Sequential Manual Gearbox, which is discontinued after its applications in E36/E46/E60/E36. It is now replaced by DCT (Dual-clutch transmission)

Steptronic is the regular BMW Automatic Transmission

SMG and DCT paddles shifters are not interchangeable.

Mr Kleen · 08-21-2012, 03:29 AM

Ah, yes. The first gen sequential. Completely forgot about that one.

EuroTunerz5 · 08-21-2012, 07:27 AM

I still want the paddles from the new m6

J Lau · 08-21-2012, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EuroTunerz5

I still want the paddles from the new m6

Can we retro fit them on our steering wheels?

08-07-2012, 01:11 AM	#23
Adam135 Captain Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA Posts: 606 iTrader: (2)	Pic... Attached Images

08-07-2012, 02:53 PM	#24
bogart Lieutenant Colonel Drives: E82 N55 DCT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: STL, MO Posts: 1,606 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [3.53]	You have the steptronic... The "M3" paddles do not work as "plug and play" with the DCT... trust me, I've tried them. __________________

08-07-2012, 06:48 PM	#26
EuroTunerz5 Captain Drives: 2012 AW BMW 135i M-Sport PPK Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 658 iTrader: (6)	I like but its not enough of an upgrade to justify the cost my friend! I want more aggressive paddles. __________________ 2012 BMW 135i M-Sport PPK AW with Black Boston Leather... MODS: RPi GT Quad Exhaust, VMR v710 Gunmetal 19" Staggered (et45/et45), Khumo Ecsta SPT 225/35/19 and 255/30/19, 30% Tint, JBSpeed Black Kidney Grills, RPi Red Intake Scoops,

08-08-2012, 01:48 PM	#28
bogart Lieutenant Colonel Drives: E82 N55 DCT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: STL, MO Posts: 1,606 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [3.53]	Entire assembly. The paddles themselves cannot be swapped over to the N55 DCT assembly either. __________________

08-10-2012, 06:57 AM	#29
EuroTunerz5 Captain Drives: 2012 AW BMW 135i M-Sport PPK Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 658 iTrader: (6)	That sucks... I still want the new m6 paddles __________________ 2012 BMW 135i M-Sport PPK AW with Black Boston Leather... MODS: RPi GT Quad Exhaust, VMR v710 Gunmetal 19" Staggered (et45/et45), Khumo Ecsta SPT 225/35/19 and 255/30/19, 30% Tint, JBSpeed Black Kidney Grills, RPi Red Intake Scoops,

08-10-2012, 08:16 AM	#32
bogart Lieutenant Colonel Drives: E82 N55 DCT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: STL, MO Posts: 1,606 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [3.53]	Ya know, I'm really not sure. I think it takes some programming from the dealer to get them to work (which is probably really expensive), but I have no idea if it could actually be done. After playing around with it for a while, I decided the M3 paddles aren't really an upgrade from the stock DCT paddles... see below. Here are the facts (remember this is for the 135i DCT only): - They are plug-and-play on the 128i and 135i steptronic - The plug is the same... it's a rectangle, 3-prong connection, but one wire is in a different location - I tried every wire combination and still no go - The assembly fits and fastens to the same location - The paddle itself, from what I could feel has about the same tension and travel as the stock DCT paddle (I recently drove the new 3-series coupe with the steptronic but DCT-like paddles, and they had an extremely soft tension and little travel, which I did not like)... I was hoping with the M3 paddles that they would have a stronger tension, longer travel, and make some sort of sound (louder than the DCT "click"). - The M3 paddles are not really bigger in size than the DCT paddles, they just look different __________________

08-11-2012, 06:06 PM	#35
bogart Lieutenant Colonel Drives: E82 N55 DCT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: STL, MO Posts: 1,606 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [3.53]	No problem. Glad I could be the guinea pig. Ended up getting my money back, so all is good. Again, yes, the M3 paddles work on steptronic. __________________

08-13-2012, 07:37 AM	#36
EuroTunerz5 Captain Drives: 2012 AW BMW 135i M-Sport PPK Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 658 iTrader: (6)	So to clarify the m3 paddles do or do not work with DCT? __________________ 2012 BMW 135i M-Sport PPK AW with Black Boston Leather... MODS: RPi GT Quad Exhaust, VMR v710 Gunmetal 19" Staggered (et45/et45), Khumo Ecsta SPT 225/35/19 and 255/30/19, 30% Tint, JBSpeed Black Kidney Grills, RPi Red Intake Scoops,

08-13-2012, 08:46 AM	#37
strati1 Lieutenant Drives: a slow car fast Join Date: May 2010 Location: DFW/SoCal Posts: 406 iTrader: (0)	^^ they work plug and play with SMG, and DO NOT work with DCT __________________ //Mods: Golf Tee, red out tails, smoked fogs, B&G S2 Springs, Adjustable Koni Yellows, Vorshlag Camberplates, 19x8.5 19x9.5 VMR v718, 225/245 PSS, Rolled fenders http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498857

08-13-2012, 10:38 AM	#38
Mr Kleen teh porcupine Drives: 2012 135i "Nina" Join Date: May 2011 Location: Wiesbaden Posts: 1,136 iTrader: (0)	I keep checking this thread hoping that someone has managed to retrofit larger paddles to our 135 DCTs. __________________ 1addicts at Stelv1o Pass

08-16-2012, 05:03 PM	#40
Mr Kleen teh porcupine Drives: 2012 135i "Nina" Join Date: May 2011 Location: Wiesbaden Posts: 1,136 iTrader: (0)	"SMG" is the automatic transmission (torque converter) __________________ 1addicts at Stelv1o Pass

08-21-2012, 03:29 AM	#42
Mr Kleen teh porcupine Drives: 2012 135i "Nina" Join Date: May 2011 Location: Wiesbaden Posts: 1,136 iTrader: (0)	Ah, yes. The first gen sequential. Completely forgot about that one. __________________ 1addicts at Stelv1o Pass

08-21-2012, 07:27 AM	#43
EuroTunerz5 Captain Drives: 2012 AW BMW 135i M-Sport PPK Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 658 iTrader: (6)	I still want the paddles from the new m6 __________________ 2012 BMW 135i M-Sport PPK AW with Black Boston Leather... MODS: RPi GT Quad Exhaust, VMR v710 Gunmetal 19" Staggered (et45/et45), Khumo Ecsta SPT 225/35/19 and 255/30/19, 30% Tint, JBSpeed Black Kidney Grills, RPi Red Intake Scoops,

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