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      02-10-2015, 06:52 AM   #1
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Brake pads

Due for a change. Any recommendations?

Thinking Ferodo DS2500 for street use, any noise and comparison vs stock pads..
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      02-19-2015, 06:26 PM   #2
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Due for a change. Any recommendations?

Thinking Ferodo DS2500 for street use, any noise and comparison vs stock pads..
Ds2500 are a Good pad. Probably less dust and A little more braking lower than OEM
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      02-20-2015, 03:06 PM   #3
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More dust and more noise. DS2500 is more or less a severe duty street and light track day pad.

Stoptech Street Performance is a much better replacement when noise and dust are of concern.
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More dust and more noise. DS2500 is more or less a severe duty street and light track day pad.

Stoptech Street Performance is a much better replacement when noise and dust are of concern.
How would the stoptech compare to the factory 1M pads for track day use, similar or slight improvement?
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Has anyone used Hawk HPS or HP+ on the 1M?

I used both of these on my RX-8 and had pretty good luck with them. One benefit was that the pad material was similar enough between them that I did not have to bed them in when switching from HPS (street) to HP+ for track days and vice versa. It looks like they are available for us.

Edit: I am on street tires, consider myself intermediate driver.

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      03-08-2015, 06:31 AM   #6
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Carbotech XP12's/10's all round and HEL brake lines work well on road and track for me.
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      03-08-2015, 11:43 AM   #7
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I run DS2500 on the street with my AP Racing brakes.

Good stopping when cold, easy on rotors and minimal dust.

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I have used DS2500s for street/track on every car since I discovered them and they have been perfect for me - EXCEPT for the 1M with OE discs.

Its almost like the disc material is too hard for them, they were noisy on the road and pretty much melted on the track. I stuck in a set of cheap Eurocarparts Pagids just to keep it running and they've probably been the best set of pads I've tried yet!

Planning to change out the OE discs for Performance Friction when I manage to get my hands on some.
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      05-21-2015, 06:26 AM   #9
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Has anyone used Hawk HPS or HP+ on the 1M?

I used both of these on my RX-8 and had pretty good luck with them. One benefit was that the pad material was similar enough between them that I did not have to bed them in when switching from HPS (street) to HP+ for track days and vice versa. It looks like they are available for us.

Edit: I am on street tires, consider myself intermediate driver.
I just bought the HPS because requirement for BMWCCA event at the Autobahn (Joliet) required you to bring extra set of pads. My originals (27,000 miles and counting) held up so will report back (don't hold breath) when actually install...
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      05-21-2015, 08:16 AM   #10
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A side note. Does anyone have any experience with Hawks new StreetRace compound? Guess they made it to compete with Carbotech AX6. Supposed to be a street compound that is more track friendly. Good up to 1200 F.

http://www.hawkperformance.com/perfo...ce-street-race

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This was the motivation behind the development of the new Hawk High Performance Street/Race compound. We built for you to go racing on it. Dive into the next tight corner, brake later and edge past your competition, but don't put it on a trailer after you lapped the field, take your helmet off and drive to you celebratory dinner. The new Street/Race compound from Hawk Performance truly gives you that ability
I have tried the HPS and HP+. HPS were not really up to the task of track use, and the HP+ are so damn noisy on the street I had to pull them off after less than a week, and the dust they make is brutal.

One nice thing about ALL Hawk brake compounds is they are all compatible with each other, so you can swap between them all without having to change rotors.

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      05-21-2015, 09:05 AM   #11
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OP: I dont know if PFC produces the PFC08 compound for the E82/1M, but they are phenomenal on the E8x/135i as a dual duty pad. The pads resist track abuse pretty well, last for a long time, and are almost silent on the street, with a minimal and occasional subtle squeak.

I unfortunately had to move to a more heat tolerant pad because my E82/135i makes a lot of power now, and I use Ti shields to protect my calipers pistons, which keeps more heat in the pad and makes it fade more quickly. This occurs even with cooling ducts attached to the brake dust shields. The ProjectMu Club Racer pads I run now are noisier on the street, but are fade-free and predictable at the track.

Next up, I might try "fade-free" pads in the same heat range (limit of 800*Celcius or more) once my PMU CR09 pads are done. Pagid RS-29, or Endless ME20 come to mind ...

See this awesome and thourough article on choosing the proper brake pads for your intended use - a must read ...

http://www.essexparts.com/learning-c...ose-brake-pads
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      05-21-2015, 09:14 AM   #12
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OP: I dont know if PFC produces the PFC08 compnound pad for the 1M, but they are phenomenal on the 135i as a dual duty pad. They resist track abuse pretty well, last for a long time, and are almost silent on the street, with a minimal and occasional subtle squeak.

I unfortunately had to move to a more heat tolerant pad because my 135i makes a lot of power now, and I use Ti shields which keeps more heat in the pad. The pads I now use are noisier on the street, but excellent nad predictable at the track.
PFC08 and PFC01 (and, perhaps, PFC11) are available for E9x/M3 and 1M. Bimmerworld, among others, stocks them.

I ran them before switching over to Ferodo pads with my AP brakes.

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      05-22-2015, 06:44 AM   #13
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OP: I dont know if PFC produces the PFC08 compound for the E82/1M, but they are phenomenal on the E8x/135i as a dual duty pad. The pads resist track abuse pretty well, last for a long time, and are almost silent on the street, with a minimal and occasional subtle squeak.

I unfortunately had to move to a more heat tolerant pad because my E82/135i makes a lot of power now, and I use Ti shields to protect my calipers pistons, which keeps more heat in the pad and makes it fade more quickly. This occurs even with cooling ducts attached to the brake dust shields. The ProjectMu Club Racer pads I run now are noisier on the street, but are fade-free and predictable at the track.

Might try fade-free pads else in the same heat range (max of 800*Celcius) once my PMU CR09 pads are done. Pagid RS-29, or Endless ME20 come to mind ...

See this awesome and thourough article on choosing the proper brake pads for your intended use - a must read ...

http://www.essexparts.com/learning-c...ose-brake-pads
I think I've said it before (pm'd you dc?) but ME20 Endless are phenomenal on the track. Work fine on the street too (a bit squealy).
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      06-01-2015, 03:31 PM   #14
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I have a set F/R of PFCs if anyone is interested? They only have 2 events on them with lots of pad left. I no longer have my 1M but I did like them a lot.
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I'm running Project Mu HC+, love them.
Braking power cold is ok, hot is crazy.
But they do make noise. A lot.

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I'm running Project Mu HC+, love them.
Braking power cold is ok, hot is crazy.
But they do make noise. A lot.

Been running the PMU CLub Racer RC09 on my 135i. They are the only fade free pad Ive used at the track but they are screamers!

Lately, Ive been trying to avoid braking on the street, by downshifting- heel/toeing as much as possible, to avoid embarassement - LOL
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You could also shout throught your window "train entering Mirabel, stops for two minutes, two minutes !"
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Any views on the difference between the Stoptech Street Performance pads and the PFC Z-rated pads ?

Not to be used for track but sprited drives in mountain passes.
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