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      08-19-2012, 09:01 PM   #1
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C63 vs. 135

So I test drove a C63 AMG on the weekend, and had some thoughts that I thought I would share. Although the C63 and a 135 are not really directly comparable considering price / specification, however it seems to be an often considered 'next step' for 135 drivers, especially since the M3 is financially a bigger leap. (For those interested, I test drove a with a family member, who ending up buying on the spot).

Notes: C63 was a 2011 four door auto. My 135 is a 2011 stock dc-t.

Power
The power delivery was excellent, it felt quick. Quicker than my 135 (obviously) but I was perhaps expecting a little more.

Handling / Steering
I found the C63 to be very predictable, and felt that I got know it very quickly—which was great. It definitely felt like a bigger car and not as 'precise' as my 135.

The steering was noticeably lighter than the 135i and found it easier to drive whilst cursing and in normal city driving.

Transmission
This was perhaps the most disappointing aspect of the car. I felt the transmission felt a little slow (in all modes, and using the manual shifters). I definitely prefer the speed and shift on my 135.

Interior
Dash / centre console felt a little bland. But the rest of the interior quality was excellent (better than the 135) and the front seats are truly awesome! The front / rear wasn't as spacious as I expected.

Sound
I love the sound of the turbo six, but the V8 sounds incredible. For me, C63 has this hands down!

Overall, I absolutely loved the C63 and it was brilliant fun to drive and without a doubt it is a 'better' car and I think what you get for your $ is excellent, especially if you go demo or low km s/h. But I've got to say, I didn't enjoy the drive home any less in my 135 and I'm certainly not in a hurry to change.

Keen to hear others experiences!
Cheers.
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      08-19-2012, 09:06 PM   #2
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Yeh I've driven C63 and 135 back to back a few times and would take C63 anyday. Stock tyres on the C63 are crap though... can't really enjoy the performance with TC kicking in constantly.

But the noise

one gripe I guess is that NA cars with their linear power delivery are just a tad bit less exciting than turbo...
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      08-19-2012, 09:16 PM   #3
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Rather compare C63 with and M3 E92/90, than with a 135i/1M.
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      08-19-2012, 09:22 PM   #4
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Yeh I've driven C63 and 135 back to back a few times and would take C63 anyday. Stock tyres on the C63 are crap though... can't really enjoy the performance with TC kicking in constantly.
I didn't find the TC any more annoying that a 135 with run flats!

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Rather compare C63 with and M3 E92/90, than with a 135i/1M.
Yep obviously you would if looking to purchase. The point of my post was more for people 'stepping up' and providing a comparison with a common basis.
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      08-19-2012, 09:22 PM   #5
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I can understand you test drove the C63 and enjoyed... BUT cant even understand how anyone can even compare these two cars..

TWO different planets IMO...
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      08-19-2012, 09:26 PM   #6
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I might go test drive one
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      08-19-2012, 09:28 PM   #7
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I can understand you test drove the C63 and enjoyed... BUT cant even understand how anyone can even compare these two cars..

TWO different planets IMO...
A direct comparison kind of wasn't the point.
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Rather compare C63 with and M3 E92/90, than with a 135i/1M.
Wow! I thought that convo was dead lol.... BBK won't be far away. I can't wait for round 3
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Wow! I thought that convo was dead lol.... BBK won't be far away. I can't wait for round 3
Which was the hairdressers and which was the old mans car again
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Wow! I thought that convo was dead lol.... BBK won't be far away. I can't wait for round 3
oops, my mistake...sorry, nothing in the world is better than a 135i with a JB4. Don't think BBK can do a 3rd round & I certainly couldn't be bothered
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From what I understand (Drag or from a roll racing)
FBO N54 (Downpipes, mids, tune, intercooler, intake) will loose against a stock C63 - (JB4 - If you filled up with 40% E85 and ran Map 5 it could be darn close though).
FBO + meth N54 will just beat a stock C63
Tuned C63 including P31 pack etc will beat a FBO + Meth N54.
To beat a Tuned C63 you will need RB's, FBO + meth.
To trash a C63 a single turbo conversion.
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      08-19-2012, 10:29 PM   #12
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You just need to work out the power to weight ratio of a N54 car vs c63 to know that the N54 will get anihilated - even with a basic tune.
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You just need to work out the power to weight ratio of a N54 car vs c63 to know that the N54 will get anihilated - even with a basic tune.
appart from the obvious that they are very very different cars, to use basic power to weight is not telling the whole story.
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I test drove the C63 and enjoyed it a lot more than the M3. Biggest difference is in the steering, the C63 is really light compared to the 135i. Not necessarily in a good way either. The exhaust note sounds fantastic, can't beat that V8. My 135i had an AA axel back with DP's and at the time there wasn't much difference in volume (mine was probably louder) but the C63 sounded sublime. With an aftermraket exahust it would be amazing. When I got back into my car it felt like a go kart in comparison (coilovers, LSD, tyres etc). The C63 is a really nice car though, acceleration is fantastic, instant power at any speed and just overall a solid well made car. My modded 135i feels like a more hardcore sports car but I'd happy own a C63, any day. The engine in the C63 is just brilliant, has so much potential too.
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As I said to a few of the guys yesterday, THIS IS THE ONLY Merc I would even consider.

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The C63s look and sound magic IMO. I just can't bring myself to drive an auto as a daily driver, but I reserve the right to change my mind at any point in time!
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From what I understand (Drag or from a roll racing)
FBO N54 (Downpipes, mids, tune, intercooler, intake) will loose against a stock C63 - (JB4 - If you filled up with 40% E85 and ran Map 5 it could be darn close though).
FBO + meth N54 will just beat a stock C63
Tuned C63 including P31 pack etc will beat a FBO + Meth N54.
To beat a Tuned C63 you will need RB's, FBO + meth.
To trash a C63 a single turbo conversion.
Rolling start, N54 with Procede and meth (everything else stock) beat a stock C63. This was in my heavy vert, I would assume a coupe would walk away even more.

I've never driven a C63 but it's on the to do list.
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As I said to a few of the guys yesterday, THIS IS THE ONLY Merc I would even consider.

+10000 AMAZING
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As I said to a few of the guys yesterday, THIS IS THE ONLY Merc I would even consider.

I can't help thinking there is something wrong with CF on a merc
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I've driven the C63 and it's an awesome piece of engineering (far better than a 135i) but prefer the feeling a forced induction car better.

I raced Suj's C63 with the power package rated at 358kw (310wkw) and although we didn't get any really clean runs I would say a 135i FBO + meth would be on par with this variant but a little quicker than a standard one. That V8 has a lot of potential once played with.
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