FMIC Stand-off: Evolve vs. ETS

diegorst · 07-10-2013, 05:15 PM

Hey there!
So I've been looking at different I/Cs to upgrade my 1M and I was mainly looking into 4 brands: Evolve, ETS, Forge and Helix.
I've finally narrowed it down to either Evolve or ETS, and was wondering what you guys think?

Hobbe · 07-10-2013, 05:49 PM

What I think?
Wagner

RoadRunner///M · 07-10-2013, 06:30 PM

ETS is bar & plate, Evolve is tube & fin and twice the cost for some reason. Strange as tube and fin is cheaper usually.

I'd get Forge if I had my choice again, but more than happy with ETS unit.

zayzay · 07-10-2013, 09:19 PM

i have a forge, great quality.

1'M Blue · 07-11-2013, 01:57 AM

ETS unit . great build and fitment .

Stratus650 · 07-11-2013, 02:56 AM

Wagner

Klepper1 · 07-16-2013, 12:53 PM

I like my ETS.

1911A145 · 07-16-2013, 01:21 PM

ETS FTW

theaudir8fan · 07-16-2013, 02:27 PM

how's the fitment? does any of these brands require trimming of anything?

saurabh_turingMS · 07-16-2013, 07:51 PM

I think they all require a small piece of trim removed to install. I've got Evolve, it's good build quality but you pay premium for it.
What I have observed about the Evolve unit is its very light compared to ETS. Ultimately its comes down to your buying criteria.
hth

robertm · 07-17-2013, 07:44 AM

Helix

mikewills · 07-17-2013, 01:41 PM

ETS ftw. I ran into a slight issue during install and ETS customer service was top-notch. The fact that they're manufactured in the US, makes it easier if you encounter issues....exchanges and tech support. I hear forge is pretty badass, but they are produced outside of the US.

octainejunkee · 07-19-2013, 08:06 PM

or go the whole hog and get SPEC R to custom make an ic and hard pipe kit bettering anything else on offer
http://www.spec-r.co.uk/

Venom · 07-19-2013, 09:13 PM

Wagner. =D

schnite · 07-21-2013, 10:59 AM

helix?who try? i am intereste for it！

mpower2 · 07-23-2013, 02:29 PM

Wagner

Sales@Evolve · 07-23-2013, 06:28 PM

Great thread!

Our intercooler does come at a higher price than most and the reason is the 100% OEM fitment with the CNC flanges for the stock clip on hoses and the core itself.

An intercooler should be judged upon it's ability to lower intake air temperatures while retaining a low pressure drop. Recovery rate is something that is not often mentioned or discussed much and is a very important aspect of the performance of the intercooler.

ozinaldo · 07-23-2013, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sal@Evolve

Great thread!

Our intercooler does come at a higher price than most and the reason is the 100% OEM fitment with the CNC flanges for the stock clip on hoses and the core itself.

An intercooler should be judged upon it's ability to lower intake air temperatures while retaining a low pressure drop. Recovery rate is something that is not often mentioned or discussed much and is a very important aspect of the performance of the intercooler.

I have lots of data about your intercooler thanks to Imran and would be my first choice, the moment that I will need to upgrade the stock unit for one or some of following reasons a) I will move to a warmer climate and 1M will be still with me b) I will start tracking (they need to build one nearby!) c) I will have an engine tune.

Now, one thing I couldn't get from Imran was, how big the core of Evolve intercooler exactly? I mean vs. the stock. I am trying to guess if I will have worse lag, even a tiny worsening of it.

Tommeh · 07-23-2013, 09:18 PM

ER ^.^

diegorst · 07-24-2013, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

I have lots of data about your intercooler thanks to Imran and would be my first choice, the moment that I will need to upgrade the stock unit for one or some of following reasons a) I will move to a warmer climate and 1M will be still with me b) I will start tracking (they need to build one nearby!) c) I will have an engine tune.

Now, one thing I couldn't get from Imran was, how big the core of Evolve intercooler exactly? I mean vs. the stock. I am trying to guess if I will have worse lag, even a tiny worsening of it.

I am also curious about what Ozinaldo mentioned, how big is the core of the Evolve vs. Stock, and is the lag going to be more noticeable?

Jcp135 · 07-24-2013, 09:32 PM

What you guys think about the Active Autowerke Sport Version Intercooler? i have onefrom muy 135 that I plan to install in my 1m. i think it will fit cause they have the same engine. Am I right?
Thanks

Sales@Evolve · 07-26-2013, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diegorst

I am also curious about what Ozinaldo mentioned, how big is the core of the Evolve vs. Stock, and is the lag going to be more noticeable?

I will put up the exact sizes shortly for you.

You would need a HUGE intercooler size difference to introduce lag.

07-10-2013, 05:15 PM	#1
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RoadRunner///M Major General 195 Rep 6,393 Posts Drives: 1M (Sold), M3 F80 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Oz iTrader: (0)	ETS is bar & plate, Evolve is tube & fin and twice the cost for some reason. Strange as tube and fin is cheaper usually. I'd get Forge if I had my choice again, but more than happy with ETS unit. __________________ BMW F80 M3 DCT - Silverstone II - AA Mids, Active 8 tune
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View Poll Results: FMIC: Evolve or ETS???
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ETS	28	57.14%
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07-16-2013, 12:53 PM	#7
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07-16-2013, 01:21 PM	#8
1911A145 Captain 15 Rep 769 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL iTrader: (4)	ETS FTW __________________ \| COBB E30 \| VRSF DP's \| ETS 5" FMIC \| BMS DCI \| 393 RWHP / 434 RWTQ
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saurabh_turingMS First Lieutenant 12 Rep 313 Posts Drives: 1M AW (F10 520D MSport - gone) Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	I think they all require a small piece of trim removed to install. I've got Evolve, it's good build quality but you pay premium for it. What I have observed about the Evolve unit is its very light compared to ETS. Ultimately its comes down to your buying criteria. hth
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07-17-2013, 01:41 PM	#12
mikewills Captain 36 Rep 943 Posts Drives: AW 1M Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Newport News, VA. iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 Duc 848 [0.00]	ETS ftw. I ran into a slight issue during install and ETS customer service was top-notch. The fact that they're manufactured in the US, makes it easier if you encounter issues....exchanges and tech support. I hear forge is pretty badass, but they are produced outside of the US. __________________ BMWCCA #454364
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07-21-2013, 10:59 AM	#15
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07-23-2013, 06:28 PM	#17
Sales@Evolve 39 Rep 1,070 Posts Drives: Slow Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Luton, Bedfordshire iTrader: (0)	Great thread! Our intercooler does come at a higher price than most and the reason is the 100% OEM fitment with the CNC flanges for the stock clip on hoses and the core itself. An intercooler should be judged upon it's ability to lower intake air temperatures while retaining a low pressure drop. Recovery rate is something that is not often mentioned or discussed much and is a very important aspect of the performance of the intercooler.
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Jcp135 Track Captain 1 Rep 31 Posts Drives: 1M, 328 F30, X5 35is Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Perú, Lima iTrader: (0)	What you guys think about the Active Autowerke Sport Version Intercooler? i have onefrom muy 135 that I plan to install in my 1m. i think it will fit cause they have the same engine. Am I right? Thanks
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