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      10-16-2012, 09:21 PM   #23
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Yeah not trusting that dyno setup
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      10-16-2012, 11:10 PM   #24
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Those look close to FBO numbers, regardless nice gains.
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      10-17-2012, 01:07 AM   #25
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Seems really high for your mods even though your running e85. Take it to the drag strip and see what she can rip.
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      10-17-2012, 03:17 AM   #26
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Dynapacks bolt to the hubs. Dynapacks usually read low(this one does not) but they are about the most useful dynos in the world to tune with.
I don't know but those packs have to simulate the real size and weight of the wheels which is quite sensitive. Go on that popular mustang dyno and check it again... Though I think your numbers will be still very good I believe you have one of those HP friendly cars.
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      10-17-2012, 09:52 AM   #27
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OP if you knew there would be back lash, why didn't you do a baseline to prove your gains?

All you are left with is numbers that really don't mean much without the baseline.

This thread would have been completely different, and more complimentary than objectionable with baseline included.
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      10-17-2012, 10:08 AM   #28
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OP if you knew there would be back lash, why didn't you do a baseline to prove your gains?

All you are left with is numbers that really don't mean much without the baseline.

This thread would have been completely different, and more complimentary than objectionable with baseline included.
Even with a baseline the gains would not be correct. As you make more power a dyno that reads higher reds EVEN higher. Making it look like you gained more than you did
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      10-17-2012, 11:37 AM   #29
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OP if you knew there would be back lash, why didn't you do a baseline to prove your gains?

All you are left with is numbers that really don't mean much without the baseline.

This thread would have been completely different, and more complimentary than objectionable with baseline included.
Cut the kid some slack, I've been on that dynapack before with my 135i and my stage 3 externally gated WRX. The dynapack definitely reads torque a lot higher than most traditional dynos. If you want a more accurate read of power go to Kaizen in Acton, MA and do a quick pass on their Dyno Dynamics. That will give a pretty good read. Also being that fall is upon us in New England, you are
going to get better numbers with
the dryer cooler weather. Have Bren send you those graphs from the dynapack, they will definitely have a baseline. Bren is a great tuner, btw, the kid is the best at what he does.
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      10-17-2012, 11:47 AM   #30
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Those are the numbers i am getting on e85 full bolt ons. So you are saying that your car dynoed 290 stock if i do the math, that also is very unlikey. Im not saying that your car is more modded, that dyno just reads high no question
This is the same dyno Unusual Suspect is running his supposed 500whp monster on. Im not doubting Bren's ability to tune, but i am stating the FACT that his dyno is quite generous.
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      10-17-2012, 12:17 PM   #31
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I can see these numbers with E85 and a dynopack.. Dynopacks always are extremly high.
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      10-17-2012, 04:40 PM   #32
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I really hope the guys with the high dyno numbers takes it to the dragstrip and see what they can pull off. If they are able to match or beat my trap speeds, they are more than likely making that kind of power.



For the record, this is only downpipes, intercooler and cobb stage 2+ on 93 octane in high humidity/hot Florida weather.
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      10-18-2012, 12:58 PM   #33
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Noob here. What is FMIC and DCI?
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      10-18-2012, 01:07 PM   #34
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Noob here. What is FMIC and DCI?
Front mount intercooler and dual cone intakes.
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      10-19-2012, 12:02 AM   #35
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Don't we already have a FMIC on our cars? When people say FMIC do they mean a bigger better one?
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      10-19-2012, 01:30 AM   #36
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Don't we already have a FMIC on our cars? When people say FMIC do they mean a bigger better one?
You need to see the one in our cars and compare it to an aftermarket one. The factory one leaves alot to be desired.
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      10-19-2012, 09:21 AM   #37
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Don't we already have a FMIC on our cars? When people say FMIC do they mean a bigger better one?
Yes and usually yes. I guess it would be better for people to be more explicit and say "aftermarket FMIC" or "upgraded FMIC" but it is probably safe to say if someone states they have a FMIC they mean it is aftermarket/upgraded.
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      10-19-2012, 09:22 AM   #38
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Cut the kid some slack, I've been on that dynapack before with my 135i and my stage 3 externally gated WRX. The dynapack definitely reads torque a lot higher than most traditional dynos. If you want a more accurate read of power go to Kaizen in Acton, MA and do a quick pass on their Dyno Dynamics. That will give a pretty good read. Also being that fall is upon us in New England, you are
going to get better numbers with
the dryer cooler weather. Have Bren send you those graphs from the dynapack, they will definitely have a baseline. Bren is a great tuner, btw, the kid is the best at what he does.
I'm not knocking or doubting the OP, tune, or tuner, my point was a base vs final dyno would have been the way to present the gains.

All points considered, it's just a good rule of thumb and it certainly would have helped defend against the inevitable (OP saw it coming too) 'that dyno reads high' argument.
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      10-19-2012, 10:10 AM   #39
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Not gonna happen. Me thinks the dyno needs a calibration
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      10-19-2012, 11:51 AM   #40
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Even if these numbers are possible, which i doubt, has anyone thought about the integrity of the stock turbos with this much boost? To obtain those numbers he has to be well over 17-18 psi. That is just a disaster waiting to happen. A good tuner should no better then to push the limits of the OEM turbos and motor like that.

I'm sure GIAC, Cobb or Procede could match those numbers if they wanted to, but is it worth blowing your turbos? It's just not logical.
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      10-19-2012, 12:01 PM   #41
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Even if these numbers are possible, which i doubt, has anyone thought about the integrity of the stock turbos with this much boost? To obtain those numbers he has to be well over 17-18 psi. That is just a disaster waiting to happen. A good tuner should no better then to push the limits of the OEM turbos and motor like that.

I'm sure GIAC, Cobb or Procede could match those numbers if they wanted to, but is it worth blowing your turbos? It's just not logical.
That really depends on where its hitting 18-19psi in the rev range as it is completely within its efficiency range in the midrange. I have been boosting 18psi on my Cobb Stage 2+ for about 9 months with no issues.
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That really depends on where its hitting 18-19psi in the rev range as it is completely within its efficiency range in the midrange. I have been boosting 18psi on my Cobb Stage 2+ for about 9 months with no issues.
But is that with a stock FMIC and Downpipes? Plus Cobbs tune is based on load not just boost. Much safer.
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But is that with a stock FMIC and Downpipes?
Nope, I have catless downpipes and an aftermarket FMIC.
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Nope, I have catless downpipes and an aftermarket FMIC.
That's the route I'm going soon. You running stage 2+. How is the power?
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