BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-19-2012, 12:09 PM   #45
ragingpanda
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 135i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Florida

Posts: 511
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by VALAS135i View Post
That's the route I'm going soon. You running stage 2+. How is the power?
Check my timeslip on the 2nd page.

I still have room to improve considering that shitty 60ft was on stock runflats and terrible weather lol.
ragingpanda is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-19-2012, 12:11 PM   #46
geared
Captain
 
Drives: 1'er&supra
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: jupiter, fl

Posts: 626
iTrader: (6)

meow
geared is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-19-2012, 12:12 PM   #47
VALAS135i
Second Lieutenant
 
VALAS135i's Avatar
 
Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Jet Black
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Southern New Jersey

Posts: 219
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ragingpanda View Post
Check my timeslip on the 2nd page.

I still have room to improve considering that shitty 60ft was on stock runflats and terrible weather lol.
That's still a solid run. with a lower 60ft you can run high 11s.
__________________
CP-E Catless DP's // CP-E Midpipes & Rear Exhaust // BMS DCI // Stett Charge Pipe // TIAL 50mm BOV // Helix FMIC // Stock Tune
Soon to Come: Cobb Accessport Stage 2+
VALAS135i is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-19-2012, 05:53 PM   #48
theinfamousdrew
Big Member
 
theinfamousdrew's Avatar
 
Drives: F30 335i xDrive ///M Sport
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Charlotte

Posts: 938
iTrader: (9)

Garage List
Lulz
__________________
theinfamousdrew is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-22-2012, 11:28 AM   #49
BostonBeemah
The Stig
 
BostonBeemah's Avatar
 
Drives: AW 135i 6spd
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Belmont, Ma

Posts: 384
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RimasRS View Post
Dyno w/o wheels and you are saying it's WHP strange but ok congrats...
agreed
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ænema View Post
Dynapacks bolt to the hubs. Dynapacks usually read low(this one does not) but they are about the most useful dynos in the world to tune with.
disagree
Quote:
Originally Posted by IGoFast1589 View Post
125whp/150wtq gain? Haha! That's funny...
agreed.. lolll
Quote:
Originally Posted by geared View Post
actually those dynos usually read hi.....
completely agree..
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Dempsey View Post
It is clear after looking at the other guy that got tuned at bren motorsports that his dyno reads RIDICULOUSLY high. There is absolutely NO chance your car is making 415 without dp or fmic.
Thank you...
Quote:
Originally Posted by supergrilldds View Post
Not gonna happen. Me thinks the dyno needs a calibration
EXZachary...
__________________

RIP 2008 AW/BL 135illMods: JB4 G5 ISO, 2Step, Raceland DPs,Turbo Back Straight Pipes, BMS DCI, ER CP, HKS BOV, CM10 + CM14 METH, P3 Vent Gauge
Dragstrip: 1.81 60ft 12.2@113 NO METHDynoDayhttp://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15337
BostonBeemah is offline   Armenia
0
Reply With Quote
      10-27-2012, 12:31 PM   #50
Dosturbos
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2014 F30 335i Msport
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Medford, MA

Posts: 289
iTrader: (1)

Not sure why this dude hasn't posted the baseline image. I can try and get the dyno image from Bren to prove it. If you haven't custom tuned with E85 yet vs stock, you should try it, I think the results are TOTALLY possible because guys with FBO stage 2 setups are grabbing another 50-60whp as well as 50-60 WTQ from the E85/93octane mix.
Bren, also does the vanos tuning, which a lot of these OTS tunes don't take advantage of. You can grab another 15-20HP with this. The Dynapack reads Torque high, but the HP is still an honest measure compared to a Dyno Dynamics, I've gone back and forth between the dynos with near equal readings in terms of HP.
Dosturbos is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-01-2012, 05:17 AM   #51
Crumpet
New Member
 
Drives: 2011 BMW 135i DCT
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posts: 19
iTrader: (0)

Hi Guys , I'm new here from Australia.Quick question, what does this e85/93 combo normally produce octane wise, in Oz we have 98 octane fuel everywhere and i'm just wondering what gains I can expect when I purchase and install a jb4 stage 2 on my n55 over the next coming weeks compared to say the regular 91 octane figures I see here

cheers
Rob
Crumpet is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-01-2012, 10:30 AM   #52
b1aze
Just one more taste...
 
Drives: 2010 135i
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Shirley, MA

Posts: 1,419
iTrader: (14)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dosturbos
Not sure why this dude hasn't posted the baseline image. I can try and get the dyno image from Bren to prove it. If you haven't custom tuned with E85 yet vs stock, you should try it, I think the results are TOTALLY possible because guys with FBO stage 2 setups are grabbing another 50-60whp as well as 50-60 WTQ from the E85/93octane mix.
Bren, also does the vanos tuning, which a lot of these OTS tunes don't take advantage of. You can grab another 15-20HP with this. The Dynapack reads Torque high, but the HP is still an honest measure compared to a Dyno Dynamics, I've gone back and forth between the dynos with near equal readings in terms of HP.
Torque and HP are directly proportional. You can't read high torque and low HP.
b1aze is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-18-2013, 08:53 AM   #53
peasouped
Lieutenant
 
peasouped's Avatar
 
Drives: 09 135i, 94 tt supra, 08 328xi
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: North of Boston

Posts: 566
iTrader: (3)

just read this thread and laughed pretty hard. I love seeing people get all po'd at peoples numbers. I've used this dyno 3 times and yes it reads a little high...but Bren does rip out some crazy numbers. I love seeing car's go in that are already tuned and having him compare the existing tunes numbers to his numbers after the tune. He doe's pull on the previous tuners tune and than his tune...i've ssen some insane difference's. When it comes to dyno numbers, you can only compare car's that have been on the same exact dyno. No two dyno's are identical. Sweet numbers for that dyno though. Ive seen him pull 475+ whp and 500+ wtq on 335's and 135's on this dyno with full bolt on's, stock turbo's and 50/50 e85
peasouped is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-18-2013, 09:37 AM   #54
2010BMW135i
Private First Class
 
Drives: 2010 BMW 135i
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Boston, MA

Posts: 123
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by peasouped View Post
just read this thread and laughed pretty hard. I love seeing people get all po'd at peoples numbers. I've used this dyno 3 times and yes it reads a little high...but Bren does rip out some crazy numbers. I love seeing car's go in that are already tuned and having him compare the existing tunes numbers to his numbers after the tune. He doe's pull on the previous tuners tune and than his tune...i've ssen some insane difference's. When it comes to dyno numbers, you can only compare car's that have been on the same exact dyno. No two dyno's are identical. Sweet numbers for that dyno though. Ive seen him pull 475+ whp and 500+ wtq on 335's and 135's on this dyno with full bolt on's, stock turbo's and 50/50 e85
Yeah, the storm of lashback is hillarious and seemingly never ending. Gota love it!
2010BMW135i is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-20-2013, 09:46 PM   #55
ErvGotti
Major
 
Drives: 2008 135i 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bury St Edmunds UK

Posts: 1,168
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2008 135i  [3.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by peasouped View Post
just read this thread and laughed pretty hard. I love seeing people get all po'd at peoples numbers. I've used this dyno 3 times and yes it reads a little high...but Bren does rip out some crazy numbers. I love seeing car's go in that are already tuned and having him compare the existing tunes numbers to his numbers after the tune. He doe's pull on the previous tuners tune and than his tune...i've ssen some insane difference's. When it comes to dyno numbers, you can only compare car's that have been on the same exact dyno. No two dyno's are identical. Sweet numbers for that dyno though. Ive seen him pull 475+ whp and 500+ wtq on 335's and 135's on this dyno with full bolt on's, stock turbo's and 50/50 e85
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2010BMW135i View Post
Yeah, the storm of lashback is hillarious and seemingly never ending. Gota love it!
No one is questioning Bren tuning, Dyno's are meant as tuning tools as every dyno is gonna read different. So without a baseline dyno on stock it's hard to say how much their custom tune made vs the OTS maps. It's tuning and dynoing 101. Also no other evidence was provided otherwise. If you guys can't see that you obviously have no idea how dyno's work and are more than likely dyno queens.

Also peasouped why are you bumping a dead thread?
ErvGotti is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 08:40 AM   #56
peasouped
Lieutenant
 
peasouped's Avatar
 
Drives: 09 135i, 94 tt supra, 08 328xi
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: North of Boston

Posts: 566
iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ErvGotti View Post
No one is questioning Bren tuning, Dyno's are meant as tuning tools as every dyno is gonna read different. So without a baseline dyno on stock it's hard to say how much their custom tune made vs the OTS maps. It's tuning and dynoing 101. Also no other evidence was provided otherwise. If you guys can't see that you obviously have no idea how dyno's work and are more than likely dyno queens.

Also peasouped why are you bumping a dead thread?

You make me laugh sir. And yes I compare the baseline numbers to the OS numbers (that is a common sense thing to do, so why mention it) Trust me ERV I have more dyno experience than you could possibly imagine.

Why you complaining about the tread being opened? You could always ignore it and move on to the next! Again you make me laughhhh
peasouped is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 11:09 AM   #57
P7X
Lieutenant
 
P7X's Avatar
 
Drives: N54 BMW 135i
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ottawa, Canada

Posts: 413
iTrader: (0)

OP, those are some crazy numbers!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ragingpanda View Post

Panda, cut that 60' down to 1.6 -1.8 you could be hitting high 11's. DO IT!
__________________
P7X is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 12:27 PM   #58
ErvGotti
Major
 
Drives: 2008 135i 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bury St Edmunds UK

Posts: 1,168
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2008 135i  [3.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by peasouped View Post

You make me laugh sir. And yes I compare the baseline numbers to the OS numbers (that is a common sense thing to do, so why mention it) Trust me ERV I have more dyno experience than you could possibly imagine.

Why you complaining about the tread being opened? You could always ignore it and move on to the next! Again you make me laughhhh
Because like I said no evidence has been posted other wise. All these claims by you and 2010BMW135i about Bren tuning is making them look bad. Again not trying to bash them, but neither of you have posted evidence of their tuning capabilities.

Just ranting on and on on how good they are without actual proof makes me and I'm sure all the other members who you've both been bashing for asking for evidence on here laugh.

Until you guys put up some solid evidence everyone here is gonna be skeptical. And if you've have so much dyno time you should have known that 2010BMW135i would have gotten bashed on without posting a baseline dyno.

Here's one thread on how to post up evidence with a baseline before and after custom tune.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=778331

So come back with some evidence or don't come back at all. This thread would have been laugh at over on E90 post.
ErvGotti is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 02:18 PM   #59
peasouped
Lieutenant
 
peasouped's Avatar
 
Drives: 09 135i, 94 tt supra, 08 328xi
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: North of Boston

Posts: 566
iTrader: (3)

hah ill give you proof. heres an 07 335xi...stock map, vs a bren stage 1, vs a stage 2. He tuned all my subaru's. He's tuning my 135i in spring.





I bet that stings sir.....
peasouped is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 02:20 PM   #60
peasouped
Lieutenant
 
peasouped's Avatar
 
Drives: 09 135i, 94 tt supra, 08 328xi
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: North of Boston

Posts: 566
iTrader: (3)

oo and thats +179whp and +230wtq....over baseline...for that dyno.....again you make me laugh
peasouped is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 02:33 PM   #61
foghat
Captain
 
Drives: 2008 135i
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Great White North

Posts: 913
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by peasouped View Post
oo and thats +179whp and +230wtq....over baseline...for that dyno.....again you make me laugh
I think you kinda proved ErvGotti's point. OP said he was making 414/440 with just an intake and tune.....

With just an intake and tune you were making 350. and are only making about 30hp more than OP with your dp's, exhaust, fmic, and e85.

Something is not adding up with OP's numbers. Again, without him providing a baseline, we have no idea how much hp the the tune actually added.
foghat is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 02:34 PM   #62
b1aze
Just one more taste...
 
Drives: 2010 135i
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Shirley, MA

Posts: 1,419
iTrader: (14)

Quote:
Originally Posted by peasouped View Post
oo and thats +179whp and +230wtq....over baseline...for that dyno.....again you make me laugh
That still doesnt negate the fact that Bren's dyno reads high.
b1aze is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 02:36 PM   #63
UsualSuspect
Lieutenant General ***
 
UsualSuspect's Avatar
 
Drives: this way and that way...
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Boston

Posts: 658
iTrader: (4)

Why don't we all just meet up? I haven't driven my car since November, but I'll bring it out to demonstrate to anyone. I'm sure any car in this area wouldn't have a problem with a meet at a fun spot. Let me know who's interested and I'll put something together.

Aaron
__________________

Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have film.
UsualSuspect is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 02:39 PM   #64
b1aze
Just one more taste...
 
Drives: 2010 135i
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Shirley, MA

Posts: 1,419
iTrader: (14)

Quote:
Originally Posted by UsualSuspect
Why don't we all just meet up? I haven't driven my car since November, but I'll bring it out to demonstrate to anyone. I'm sure any car in this area wouldn't have a problem with a meet at a fun spot. Let me know who's interested and I'll put something together.

Aaron
Deal. NE Dragway. This coming spring. Then we get REAL numbers and REAL comparisons.
b1aze is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 03:21 PM   #65
peasouped
Lieutenant
 
peasouped's Avatar
 
Drives: 09 135i, 94 tt supra, 08 328xi
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: North of Boston

Posts: 566
iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by foghat View Post
I think you kinda proved ErvGotti's point. OP said he was making 414/440 with just an intake and tune.....

With just an intake and tune you were making 350. and are only making about 30hp more than OP with your dp's, exhaust, fmic, and e85.

Something is not adding up with OP's numbers. Again, without him providing a baseline, we have no idea how much hp the the tune actually added.
I did not prove ERV right at all. Remember the dyno comparison I posted up is for an 335XI..Not a 135I..What happens when you take a car with the same motor but is RWD not AWD? The car will put higher numbers down because it does not lose power through an AWD system.The average AWD system loses 22% power through the drivetrain and 15% for RWD. Also the member was running a 93/e85 blend. So if we go by mathmatics the 335i would make 374.5 whp if it was RWD. Now factor in E85. You can run more boost and a more aggressive tune. After that we should be right around those numbers....My money is def on Aaron BTW.
peasouped is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-21-2013, 03:26 PM   #66
peasouped
Lieutenant
 
peasouped's Avatar
 
Drives: 09 135i, 94 tt supra, 08 328xi
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: North of Boston

Posts: 566
iTrader: (3)

and if you watch the video you can see the baseline tune compared to current tune....so besides people saying the dyno reads high (which isnt the real issue because no dyno's are alike and we are looking for a baseline difference)...theres no arguement here.
peasouped is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:31 PM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST