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      11-07-2012, 03:28 AM   #23
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^ lol at the anger. and why cant you put a spoiler on a front wheel drive car?
You can, but it's as useless as man nipples.
You don't know aero or the dynamics of grip....or you simply aren't going fast enough.
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      11-07-2012, 06:04 AM   #24
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afaik, spoiler on FWD will be good because downward force on the rear wheels is still important. just because the rear wheels arent driving it forward doesnt mean they arent important for stability.
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      11-07-2012, 08:48 AM   #25
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I couldn't resist being sucked into this thread.

Spoilers on FWD are useless? Come on guys - downforce is downforce, period. A proper spoiler will keep any platform planted to the ground at high speeds just as well. Just research it if you don't want to believe me - or check out racing divisions like Grand-Am and whatnot.

Also, +1 for liking the look of it tilted, definitely gives it a more aggressive style. Unless it's freezing, 80% of the time I have it tilted. I know a lot of people that do the same/agree. I've also wanted to close the inner part from time to time.

And lastly, why is there so much hate in this simple thread?
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      11-07-2012, 09:11 AM   #26
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You don't know aero or the dynamics of grip....or you simply aren't going fast enough.
I know that they add weight and drag to the car, offering a permanent decrease in fuel economy for the rare chance that the car reaches a speed on the street where sufficient downforce would be generated.

Plus, many of the flimsy decorations I've seen double-sided taped or sheet-metal-screwed to the thin deck lid would most likely sooner buckle under that force before actually offering any useful traction increase.
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      11-07-2012, 09:12 AM   #27
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I couldn't resist being sucked into this thread.

Spoilers on FWD are useless? Come on guys - downforce is downforce, period. A proper spoiler will keep any platform planted to the ground at high speeds just as well. Just research it if you don't want to believe me - or check out racing divisions like Grand-Am and whatnot.

Also, +1 for liking the look of it tilted, definitely gives it a more aggressive style. Unless it's freezing, 80% of the time I have it tilted. I know a lot of people that do the same/agree. I've also wanted to close the inner part from time to time.

And lastly, why is there so much hate in this simple thread?
+1 to everything u said
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      11-07-2012, 01:50 PM   #28
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I do find it a little amusing that some people use the tilt feature of the sunroof just for the look or style of it. The function of the tilt feature is clearly to vent the cabin, which is why the shade only closes about 3/4 of the way when the sunroof is tilted.

I know someone mentioned that VW's and Audi's can close the shade with the roof tilted because the shade has integrated slots for ventilation. I prefer BMW's design over this though, because I would probably forget all the time that the sunroof was tilted if I could close the shade all the way.
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      08-02-2014, 10:45 PM   #29
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Coming from a Subaru I was also expecting to be able to close the shade while the sunroof was tilted,...
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      08-02-2014, 10:52 PM   #30
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Coming from a Subaru I was also expecting to be able to close the shade while the sunroof was tilted,...
Why would you do that?
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      08-02-2014, 11:07 PM   #31
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Draw the hot air out while also keeping the sun out.

BTW the 435 has this feature. It has a series of louvers along the leading edge of the sunshade & can be keep closed with the glass tilted up.
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      08-02-2014, 11:12 PM   #32
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Oh I see. I was trying to figure out what the point woukd be. Lol. If there are louvers in the shade that makes sense I guess.
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      08-03-2014, 05:49 AM   #33
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On my car, the shade doesn't have any louvers, mesh, or holes to allow air to pass. It is possible to tilt the roof panel, but the shade can then only be closed about 80%, or approximately 3" from being fully closed. Being somewhat "airtight" in the closed position, driving around at speed with the glass tilted would create a fair amount of vacuum on the shade and perhaps cause damage.

From a "look" standpoint, I enjoy sunroofs in my daily drivers but tilting them tells the rest of the world the I chose to pay more to carry around extra weight, and have it located at the highest possible vertical CG.
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      08-03-2014, 07:26 AM   #34
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I have to speak up. I just can't help myself. Poster #1, you have a $35,000 car and you can't spend 45 seconds to figure out how the moon roof works? Poster #2 has a $40,000 car and can't spend 2 minutes to realize that he's talking out of his ass?

I feel like you are the same people that put spoilers on front wheel drive cars. You people need to go away, sell your BMWs, and buy Prius's.
Are you still pissed about Jerry Sandusky?
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I know someone mentioned that VW's and Audi's can close the shade with the roof tilted because the shade has integrated slots for ventilation. I prefer BMW's design over this though, because I would probably forget all the time that the sunroof was tilted if I could close the shade all the way.
Porsche can do that too. A dash warning comes up to warn you roof is open when you turn off the car. But it is a flexible fabric shade not unlike the roller blinds.
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      08-03-2014, 10:35 AM   #36
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i know 1000x more about your car than you do, and i promise you mine is faster...
sorry i dont fuck with my sunroof

and I know more about you're car than you; there is always going to be someone who knows more. That's the beauty of human troubleshooting.
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      08-03-2014, 12:23 PM   #37
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You can, but it's as useless as man nipples.
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I love the moon roof tilt feature. It creates that extra amount of down force that keeps my car planted when I go over 30 mile per hour...
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