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      12-14-2014, 10:04 PM   #1
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2015 Stang or 135i

Hi all,
I recently bought a 2011 135i with under 10k miles on it and its been a great car. I had Ag m590s made for it and put on a cold air. The wheels rub and cause the suspension to unseat itself if i hit a bump to hard. Its something that can easily be fixed by rolling my fenders. Anyway I looked up the current trade in value of my car and its dropped a ton . Anyway Im considering cutting my losses now and jumping into a lease on a 2015 mustang GT it wouldn't be as optioned out as the 1er interior wise but the number are hard to beat. I have quite a bit into my 1 in just the wheels alone so Im debating whether if I should just stick it out I know its a great car just wondering if anyone had any ideas for what I should do. Also if anyone would be interested in 19x8.5 Ag m590's pm me.
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      12-14-2014, 10:14 PM   #2
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Put the wheels up as a feeler in the For Sale section and see how much interest there is. Other than that, I would hope your choice is based on what's more fun.
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      12-14-2014, 10:18 PM   #3
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Only thing against the Mustang is its a year 1 version.
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      12-14-2014, 10:21 PM   #4
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Only thing against the Mustang is its a year 1 version.
1 Year version?
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      12-14-2014, 10:29 PM   #5
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1 Year version?
First year cars tend to have "bugs" that need to be worked out with time. Either in design or in assembly.

Example: My mother and father bought a 2002 and 2003 Mountaineer when new. They were both identically optioned, expect the 2002 was a new model. The 2002 consistently got 10% lower fuel economy than the 2003. The 2002 also developed rattles more than the 2003 and had a greater number of issues over its life.

My 2008 135 was also a first year car, its also had its fair share of unique issues. And my father's i3 is already showing to have some interesting issues.
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      12-14-2014, 10:37 PM   #6
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Oh, okay. The first year for the coyote engine (302) was not 2015, it was 2014 if that's what you're referring too..
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      12-14-2014, 10:39 PM   #7
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Considering the 'stang just got mopped by the this-gen Camaro 1LE, I'd say keep the 135i. That and you already took the depreciation hit, which you'll relive again in the Mustang.

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And my father's i3 is already showing to have some interesting issues.
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Oh, okay. The first year for the coyote engine (302) was not 2015, it was 2014 if that's what you're referring too..
Apart from the engine (which was introduced in 2011), the entire car is new for the 2015 model year. It will have the associated first year bugs.
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Like what?
The left door is assembled just a tiny bit differently than the right one. The leather patches on the right cloth seat are lifting off and there are various programming glitches in the car's computer.
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      12-14-2014, 11:13 PM   #11
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Both nice cars. The BMW has better handling.
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Considering the 'stang just got mopped by the this-gen Camaro 1LE, I'd say keep the 135i. That and you already took the depreciation hit, which you'll relive again in the Mustang.
What does that have to with anything? He didn't mention the 1LE. Besides, the new Mustang is a vast improvement with its IRS so it didn't get beat that bad by the 1LE. Straight line, its still a drivers race (edge to the Mustang) but on the road course yes, the 1LE shines.

Between the 135i and new Mustang....I'd wait for next years model, let the bugs get worked out then make the swap.

Of course the Mustang isn't going to have the up class feel like the 1er and for me it wouldn't be a hard decision to swap to the Mustang but not everyone feels the same way. The new gen Mustang has all around better performance than the 1er but not all the luxury items/feel.

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Both nice cars. The BMW has better handling.
Last gen, yes. The new gen....no.
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      12-14-2014, 11:24 PM   #13
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What does that have to with anything? He didn't mention the 1LE. Besides, the new Mustang is a vast improvement with its IRS so it didn't get beat that bad by the 1LE. Straight line, its still a drivers race (edge to the Mustang) but on the road course yes, the 1LE shines.

Between the 135i and new Mustang....I'd wait for next years model, let the bugs get worked out then make the swap.

Of course the Mustang isn't going to have the up class feel like the 1er and for me it wouldn't be a hard decision to swap to the Mustang but not everyone feels the same way. The new gen Mustang has all around better performance than the 1er but not all the luxury items/feel.



Last gen, yes. The new gen....no.
I've driven one. Better than before, but still big, heavy, and slow(er) to change directions, stop, and go.
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      12-14-2014, 11:33 PM   #14
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I've driven one. Better than before, but still big, heavy, and slow(er) to change directions, stop, and go.
Yes it is heavy but it performs better than the 1er in all performance categories. Braking, acceleration and handling.

Don't think so? Go look at the reviews.

I love my 135i but there is always something faster that can be had for cheaper.
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      12-14-2014, 11:50 PM   #15
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I've driven one. Better than before, but still big, heavy, and slow(er) to change directions, stop, and go.
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Yes it is heavy but it performs better than the 1er in all performance categories. Braking, acceleration and handling.

Don't think so? Go look at the reviews.

I love my 135i but there is always something faster that can be had for cheaper.
I do a lot of canyon driving in LA the snake and malibu areas. The 135i genuinely feels a little sloppy in the tight turns at speed compared with the other cars I've driven there (jaguar f-type V6 s and V8, last gen corvette etc..) Ive heard the mustang is greatly improved in that regard compared to last gen. Would love to drive the 1 and the stang back to back in some technical sections.
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Yes it is heavy but it performs better than the 1er in all performance categories. Braking, acceleration and handling.

Don't think so? Go look at the reviews.

I love my 135i but there is always something faster that can be had for cheaper.
Yeah, but as we all know BMWs are never the outright fastest cars out there. Theres just something about them that we love, its a "the whole is great than the sum of its parts" thing.

That being said, I am very closely following the GT350. I really think that I might get one in a year or two.
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If you're interested in the new 2015 Mustang GT, then definitely go and test drive it. If you like it, get it! There's something about a V8.

I had an '06 Mustang GT, put a blower on it. It was a blast to drive and it put a big smile on my face every time I went out in it.
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The new Mustang GT has almost as much horsepower as I did in my '06 with blower, plus the new IRS. That's M3/M4 fun at half the price.

Sure, it doesn't have the refinement or most of the bells and whistles that the ///M cars have, but I'll bet it's great fun at a bargain basement price.

All you need is an aftermarket exhaust and you're good to go. Also, don't forget the manual tranny.
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Check out Subaruwrxfan on YouTube he has a channel dedicated to weekly updates on the new mustang..
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The new Mustang GT has almost as much horsepower as I did in my '06 with blower, plus the new IRS. That's M3/M4 fun at half the price.

Sure, it doesn't have the refinement or most of the bells and whistles that the ///M cars have, but I'll bet it's great fun at a bargain basement price.

All you need is an aftermarket exhaust and you're good to go. Also, don't forget the manual tranny.
Id be leasing it so my biggest fear would the modding bug would bite again and I'd end up buying the car!
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Id be leasing it so my biggest fear would the modding bug would bite again and I'd end up buying the car!
I think you'd probably be ok with just the aftermarket exhaust if you wanted to go that route. Just keep the factory exhaust and have it re-installed when you return the car.
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I hate the redesign of the 2015 mustang, but Ibet if you go drive one, you'll ditch your 135i and never look back.. Other than asthetics, Ford hit a homerun with the new engine, brakes and suspension. Really fun car!
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