BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-18-2012, 01:27 AM   #1
Nugget
Major
 
Nugget's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 135i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Perth

Posts: 1,123
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2011 BMW 135i  [5.00]
Cross Camber

I got M3 suspension bits installed recently and the specs on the alignment done afterwards don't look right to me.
There is a large amount of cross camber. It was explained that it would even out when I was in the drivers seat. Would 200lbs in the front right seat fix this? I didn't think compression changed camber on MacPherson struts?

Nugget is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-18-2012, 01:41 AM   #2
jsmonet
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2012 135
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: so cal

Posts: 438
iTrader: (2)

it's surprising they didn't just ask your weight and put that amount on the driver's seat O_o
jsmonet is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-18-2012, 06:29 PM   #3
John_01
Lieutenant Colonel
 
John_01's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 325i, E82 135i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,914
iTrader: (0)

Camber error of 1 degree seems a really big misalignment. It doesn't seem right to me at all. I am not an expert, but I doubt that's going to be fixed by sitting in the drivers seat. Do you know if there is any record of the alignment numbers before the suspension work was done?
John_01 is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      07-19-2012, 07:50 PM   #4
Nugget
Major
 
Nugget's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 135i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Perth

Posts: 1,123
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2011 BMW 135i  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_01 View Post
Camber error of 1 degree seems a really big misalignment. It doesn't seem right to me at all. I am not an expert, but I doubt that's going to be fixed by sitting in the drivers seat. Do you know if there is any record of the alignment numbers before the suspension work was done?
Yeah doesn't look quite right but hoping some experts here can chime in.
If you can read the picture the final setting are

CAMBER
Front left: -1.45
Front right: -0.30
Rear Left: -1.49
Rear Right: -0.40

TOE
Front left: +0.06
Front right: +0.06
Rear Left: +0.06
Rear Right: +0.09
Nugget is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-20-2012, 09:45 AM   #5
brusk
Lieutenant
 
brusk's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 135i Coupe
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Dallas, TX

Posts: 475
iTrader: (1)

I don't agree with the front camber difference as the specs on the cross camber is -0.50 to 0.50. As for the toe for performance you would want about 0 or slightly in the negative numbers for the front and for the rear the specs are 0.12 to 0.18 which on the highway equates to a little safer for doing quick lane changes to keep the rear in check. I had mine done yesterday and you can see the specs they went with. All they really wanted to know is it was an aggressive street setup. Although I'm not happy with the front camber settings as it should have been more.
Attached Images
 
__________________
2008 135i - Cobb AP, MS DP's, Berk street exhaust, AMS IC, BMS DCI, CDV delete, Quaife LSD, M3 control arms, M3 rear SF bushings, SS brake lines.
brusk is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-20-2012, 03:11 PM   #6
fourtailpipes
Major
 
Drives: OPCs
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Work

Posts: 1,162
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nugget View Post
Yeah doesn't look quite right but hoping some experts here can chime in.
If you can read the picture the final setting are

CAMBER
Front left: -1.45
Front right: -0.30
Rear Left: -1.49
Rear Right: -0.40

TOE
Front left: +0.06
Front right: +0.06
Rear Left: +0.06
Rear Right: +0.09

that's a pretty sh!t alignment. have them fix the camber and recheck the other numbers after.
fourtailpipes is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-26-2012, 09:34 PM   #7
cpt97m3
AutoXer
 
Drives:
Join Date: Apr 2008

Posts: 619
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fourtailpipes View Post
that's a pretty sh!t alignment. have them fix the camber and recheck the other numbers after.
+1. The camber is off.
__________________
2009 135i, Alpine White, 6MT, M-Sport, iDrive, iPod/USB, Heated Seats, Premium Sound, BMW Assist
cpt97m3 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-27-2012, 07:22 AM   #8
Pig Farmer
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2009 BMW 135i
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Florida

Posts: 590
iTrader: (0)

I suspect their whole alignment rack is off. If you are at the stock ride height with m3 conrol arms (and the camber pin removed), I seem to recall the max negative camber on the 1-series is around 1.1 - 1.2 degrees. Negative camber of 1.5 seems a stretch. I would go elsewhere for a proper alignment.
Pig Farmer is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-27-2012, 12:52 PM   #9
fourtailpipes
Major
 
Drives: OPCs
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Work

Posts: 1,162
iTrader: (0)

maybe the alignment tech forgot he was only wearing one shoe?

fourtailpipes is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-03-2012, 12:57 AM   #10
Nugget
Major
 
Nugget's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 135i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Perth

Posts: 1,123
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2011 BMW 135i  [5.00]
I am installing Dinan camber plates and getting a new alignment done. Does anyone have recommendations of what numbers I should aim for? I do aim to track the car fairly regularly.
Nugget is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      12-11-2012, 08:20 PM   #11
Nugget
Major
 
Nugget's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 135i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Perth

Posts: 1,123
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2011 BMW 135i  [5.00]
As a follow up to this, I installed Dinan camber plates and got a new alignment done at a different shop, looks a lot more reasonable.

CAMBER
Front left: -2.28
Front right: -2.22
Rear Left: -1.2
Rear Right: -1.19

TOE
Front left: 0
Front right: 0
Rear Left: +0.5
Rear Right: +0.5

Caster
Left: +7.12
Right: +7.07

According to their alignment sheet the previous set up was pretty funky. It had massive amounts of toe in on the back and nothing was even left to right.
Nugget is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:53 AM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST