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BBBluey · 11-22-2012, 02:01 AM

Anybody here ever use this Shurhold buffer? comments to share? It does have some pretty cool features.

http://shurhold.com/auto/buffing-machines-pads

I'm looking to buy a buffer and the price of this one is tempting, plus it seems to be US based/made.

Shaggykjb_135I · 12-02-2012, 12:23 PM

If you want to get a DA buffer. Go with PortaCable 7424XP. Its the perfect polisher for Beginner to advanced.
Only thing that would be better is the Flex and I wouldn't use a forced movement such as the flex for your first polisher.

Dackelone · 12-02-2012, 03:44 PM

Everyone has nothing but praise for the porter cable DA, like the one Griots Garage sells. Hill at Detailers Domain had a great deal on them, you might check out his website. I'm pretty tempted to buy one too.

smack · 12-12-2012, 11:01 AM

Griots before PC. Griots is more powerful and has a lifetime warranty. You cant beat that!

fmzip · 12-12-2012, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smack

Griots before PC. Griots is more powerful and has a lifetime warranty. You can beat that.

ditto!

Dackelone · 12-13-2012, 02:26 PM

FYI... Detailer's Domain has a pretty good deal on the Griot's Garage DA for $139! Thats about ~$60 bucks cheaper than Griot's sells it for with all those colored pads. Plus Detailer's Domain has a few discount codes that makes it even cheaper!

Griot's Garage 6 inch Random Orbital Polisher Base Kit
http://www.detailersdomain.com/Griot...Kit_p_683.html

HeyMoe53 · 12-15-2012, 01:19 AM

I received a PC7424 as a Christmas present 15 years ago. It's still running strong. If I were to buy my first polisher today, I'd either get an XP, or the Griot's.

Yes, Griot's DOES stand behind that guarantee.

For me, if my old-codger PC gives it up, I'd think about an XP, or a Griot's. You can get a little more aggressive with the Flex, but given the way I care for my (and my kids' cars), I don't think that I would need it.

For a "first date" today, the XP is fine, and so is the Griot's. Of course, with Griot's, if you have an issue, you can send it back, and Richard will send you another one.

Either way, you would have to be "Moron Tom" to mess things up with the XP or Griot's. Even a lot of the pro detailers who once used rotary polishers are now saving them for the really tough issues. Dual-action, aka random-orbital polishers have improved, and with the vast array of polishing pads/discs, and polishes available, the options available are endless, compared to when my Porter Cable ended up under the Christmas tree a good while ago.

Don't forget to invest in quality microfiber towels for polish removal...

BBBluey · 12-15-2012, 02:03 PM

So nobody has info on the Shurhold and it seems to be a toss up between the PC/XP and the Griots.
As a beginer and most likely only going to use the buffer ~ twice a year, it doesn't seem I could go wrong picking any of them. Either of the three mentioned will get the job done nicely and safely. From searching around and feedback from others, it's come to this...

1) The PC/XP seems to be very dependable with great reviews and the least expensive at the moment through detail addict but only 1 pad.
2) The Griots has a lifetime warranty which is reassuring, but it's the loudest, gets really hot and will most likely be using that warranty, comes with 5 pads through detailersdomain.
3) The Shurehold has really nice features and comes with a kit below the price of the others but it's also the least pwrful...not sure that will matter for my use however.
4) The Flex simply kicks ass but not necessary for beginner/average user. Too costly considering the uncertainty that I'll ever use the machine more than once.

What to do...?

madsedan · 12-19-2012, 04:17 PM

Never heard of the Shurhold, I am getting the new Griots though.

BBBluey · 12-21-2012, 11:23 PM

Does anybody know the difference between the Griots 6' model versions:
10765LNGCRD
10813LNGCRD

I think the LNGCRD means 25 foot pwr cable but what does the different numbers mean??

I figured out what the different versions mean. Basically just a newer version with minor changes.

Does anybody know if you can use the 3inch adaptor backing plate on the Griots?

cheshirecat79 · 12-23-2012, 06:02 PM

Here's a great article about it.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/how-t...-polisher.html

also, it's important to note that there are different mechanisms that drive these polishers. I use a PC7424, which is a passive dual-action polisher. It has a motor that oscillates the head, but the spinning action is a secondary effect of that primary motor.

Other polishers, like the Griot's (I believe) are true dual-action polishers in that they have an active link to the motor which guarantees you get the same action regardless of the amount of pressure you're putting on the pad.

11-22-2012, 02:01 AM	#1
BBBluey Captain Drives: very slow and courteous Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Maria, California Posts: 811 iTrader: (6)	World's best DA polisher? Anybody here ever use this Shurhold buffer? comments to share? It does have some pretty cool features. http://shurhold.com/auto/buffing-machines-pads I'm looking to buy a buffer and the price of this one is tempting, plus it seems to be US based/made.
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12-02-2012, 12:23 PM	#2
Shaggykjb_135I Private Drives: Sedonna Red 135 6spd. loaded. Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Central Texas Posts: 61 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	If you want to get a DA buffer. Go with PortaCable 7424XP. Its the perfect polisher for Beginner to advanced. Only thing that would be better is the Flex and I wouldn't use a forced movement such as the flex for your first polisher. __________________ Flex fuel is this juice you drink, you put on a tank top and then you flexxx - matacuero

12-02-2012, 03:44 PM	#3
Dackelone Moderator Drives: 135i Silber mit/Rot 6MT N54 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany Posts: 13,031 iTrader: (0)	Everyone has nothing but praise for the porter cable DA, like the one Griots Garage sells. Hill at Detailers Domain had a great deal on them, you might check out his website. I'm pretty tempted to buy one too. __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide 1addicts at Stelv1oPass

12-12-2012, 11:01 AM	#4
smack Lieutenant Colonel Drives: BMW's/Flex 3401 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Las Vegas/Nellis AFB Posts: 1,506 iTrader: (0)	Griots before PC. Griots is more powerful and has a lifetime warranty. You cant beat that! __________________ Practice dosent make perfect, the dedication to achieve pefection makes perfect. "Smack" http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...s-oc2-0-a.html Last edited by smack; 12-12-2012 at 10:45 PM.

12-13-2012, 02:26 PM	#6
Dackelone Moderator Drives: 135i Silber mit/Rot 6MT N54 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany Posts: 13,031 iTrader: (0)	FYI... Detailer's Domain has a pretty good deal on the Griot's Garage DA for $139! Thats about ~$60 bucks cheaper than Griot's sells it for with all those colored pads. Plus Detailer's Domain has a few discount codes that makes it even cheaper! Griot's Garage 6 inch Random Orbital Polisher Base Kit http://www.detailersdomain.com/Griot...Kit_p_683.html __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide 1addicts at Stelv1oPass

12-15-2012, 01:19 AM	#7
HeyMoe53 Lieutenant Drives: '09 128 M-Spt; '13 ordered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 495 iTrader: (0)	I received a PC7424 as a Christmas present 15 years ago. It's still running strong. If I were to buy my first polisher today, I'd either get an XP, or the Griot's. Yes, Griot's DOES stand behind that guarantee. For me, if my old-codger PC gives it up, I'd think about an XP, or a Griot's. You can get a little more aggressive with the Flex, but given the way I care for my (and my kids' cars), I don't think that I would need it. For a "first date" today, the XP is fine, and so is the Griot's. Of course, with Griot's, if you have an issue, you can send it back, and Richard will send you another one. Either way, you would have to be "Moron Tom" to mess things up with the XP or Griot's. Even a lot of the pro detailers who once used rotary polishers are now saving them for the really tough issues. Dual-action, aka random-orbital polishers have improved, and with the vast array of polishing pads/discs, and polishes available, the options available are endless, compared to when my Porter Cable ended up under the Christmas tree a good while ago. Don't forget to invest in quality microfiber towels for polish removal...

12-15-2012, 02:03 PM	#8
BBBluey Captain Drives: very slow and courteous Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Maria, California Posts: 811 iTrader: (6)	So nobody has info on the Shurhold and it seems to be a toss up between the PC/XP and the Griots. As a beginer and most likely only going to use the buffer ~ twice a year, it doesn't seem I could go wrong picking any of them. Either of the three mentioned will get the job done nicely and safely. From searching around and feedback from others, it's come to this... 1) The PC/XP seems to be very dependable with great reviews and the least expensive at the moment through detail addict but only 1 pad. 2) The Griots has a lifetime warranty which is reassuring, but it's the loudest, gets really hot and will most likely be using that warranty, comes with 5 pads through detailersdomain. 3) The Shurehold has really nice features and comes with a kit below the price of the others but it's also the least pwrful...not sure that will matter for my use however. 4) The Flex simply kicks ass but not necessary for beginner/average user. Too costly considering the uncertainty that I'll ever use the machine more than once. What to do...? Last edited by BBBluey; 12-15-2012 at 03:17 PM.

12-19-2012, 04:17 PM	#9
madsedan Registered Drives: 91 318is S50 swap Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dallas Posts: 4 iTrader: (0)	Never heard of the Shurhold, I am getting the new Griots though.

12-21-2012, 11:23 PM	#10
BBBluey Captain Drives: very slow and courteous Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Maria, California Posts: 811 iTrader: (6)	Does anybody know the difference between the Griots 6' model versions: 10765LNGCRD 10813LNGCRD I think the LNGCRD means 25 foot pwr cable but what does the different numbers mean?? I figured out what the different versions mean. Basically just a newer version with minor changes. Does anybody know if you can use the 3inch adaptor backing plate on the Griots? Last edited by BBBluey; 12-23-2012 at 02:33 PM.

12-23-2012, 06:02 PM	#11
cheshirecat79 Second Lieutenant Drives: 370z & 135i Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL Posts: 232 iTrader: (0)	Here's a great article about it. http://www.autopia-carcare.com/how-t...-polisher.html also, it's important to note that there are different mechanisms that drive these polishers. I use a PC7424, which is a passive dual-action polisher. It has a motor that oscillates the head, but the spinning action is a secondary effect of that primary motor. Other polishers, like the Griot's (I believe) are true dual-action polishers in that they have an active link to the motor which guarantees you get the same action regardless of the amount of pressure you're putting on the pad.

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