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      03-01-2013, 07:35 PM   #1
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The 135i is the best BMW

According to Consumer Reports anyway. I take back anything bad I may have said about them.

Sedans, Subcompact: Best: Kia Rio EX. Worst: Nissan Versa SV
Hatchbacks, Subcompact: Best: Honda Fit Sport. Worst: Smart for Two Passion
Sedans, Compact: Best: Subaru Impreza Premium. Worst: Volkswagen Jetta SE
Hatchbacks/Wagons, Compact: Best: Volkswagen Golf TDI. Worst: Mini Cooper Clubman
Sedans, Midsized: Best: Toyota Camry Hybrid XLE. Worst: Dodge Avenger SXT
Sedans, Large: Best: Chrysler 300 Limited. Worst: Ford Taurus Limited
Luxury Sedans, Compact: Best: Infiniti G37 Journey. Worst: Lexus CT 200h Premium
Luxury Sedans, Midsized: Best: Audi A6 3.0 Premium Plus Quattro. Worst: Lincoln MKS
Luxury Sedans, Large: Best: Lexus LS 460L. Worst: Fisker Karma EcoSport
Sports Cars, High-Performance: Best: BMW 135i. Worst: Chevrolet Camaro 2LT
Sporty Cars: Best: Volkswagen GTI. Worst: Honda CR-Z EX
Sports Cars, Roadsters: Best: Porsche Boxster 2.7. Worst: BMW Z4 sDrive28i
Sports Cars, Convertibles, Four-Seat: Best: Volkswagen Eos Lux. Worst: Fiat 500C Pop
Minivans: Best: Honda Odyssey EX-L. Worst: Dodge Grand Caravan R/T
SUVs, Small: Best: Ford Escape Titanium. Worst: Jeep Compass Latitude
SUVs, Midsized: Best: Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited. Worst: Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
SUVs, Large: Best: Chevrolet Traverse LT. Worst: GMC Yukon Hybrid
Luxury SUVs, Compact: Best: BMW X3 xDrive28i. Worst: Land Rover Range Rover Evoque Pure
Luxury SUVs, Midsized: Best: Lexus RX 450h. Worst: Volvo XC90 3.2
Luxury SUVs, Large: Best: Mercedes-Benz GL350 BlueTec. Worst: Cadillac Escalade
Pickups, Compact: Best: Honda Ridgeline RTS. Worst: Toyota Tacoma
Pickups, Full-Sized: Best: Toyota Tundra SR5. Worst: Nissan Titan SV
Pickups, Heavy-Duty Diesel: Best: Chevrolet Silverado 2500 LTZ. Worst: Ram 2500 Laramie
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      03-01-2013, 08:31 PM   #2
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I saw that too! Does anyone know what the rating came in at?
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      03-01-2013, 08:41 PM   #3
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I saw that too! Does anyone know what the rating came in at?
In 2008 before the reliability problems the 135 was given a score of 98 by CR.

And a 5/5 by Jeremy Clarkson. And was pretty much called the best thing since sliced bread by the rest of the automotive press.

Those were good times...
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      03-01-2013, 08:51 PM   #5
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Those were good times...
Still good times! I haven't gotten my battery recall notice yet..it would be #3 I think for this car???? It just means another loaner I get to play with. Every time I return a loaner for my car it feels like I'm taking delivery all over again.
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      03-01-2013, 09:00 PM   #6
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I have had in the past all kinds of M cars,E36 M3,E46 M3, E92 M3,V-10 M5, and if the 135i is not the best BMW, it could very well be. Its the BMW I have most enjoyed owning and driving, it always keeps amazing me how responsive it is,how solid its built,feels like a vault, how pure BMW are its lines. The only one I have not had,,a E30 M3, which from what I have read is BMW at its purest form.The only comparable BMW of the ones I have driven is my very first BMW, a 1974 2002 tii. But in my book,my 135i is tops.
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      03-01-2013, 11:04 PM   #7
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According to Consumer Reports anyway. I take back anything bad I may have said about them.
CR also says that the reliability of the 128i is above average, while the 135i has improved to average.
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      03-02-2013, 12:10 AM   #8
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I'm sure I'll get in trouble for this but check it out...





It really is worth buying this Consumer Reports edition each year. Almost every car on the market is in it and it's cool to compare the different reviews for each vehicle class.
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      03-02-2013, 09:00 AM   #9
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The 128i really isn't in it... again, the 128 gets forgotten and left out. If the 128 is 'based' on the 328 then wouldn't the 328's 'numbers' be more appropriate than the 135 when comparing the two?
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      03-02-2013, 09:05 AM   #10
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In 2008 before the reliability problems the 135 was given a score of 98 by CR.

And a 5/5 by Jeremy Clarkson. And was pretty much called the best thing since sliced bread by the rest of the automotive press.

Those were good times...
Fortunately the 1M exists now.
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      03-02-2013, 11:13 AM   #11
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Fortunately the 1M exists now.
That car just takes a great thing and kicks everything up a notch.

Its funny how BMW just took the gripes that us early adopters had in 2008 and 2009 and turned them into a new car.

ie we wanted the 135 to have.

-Tighter Suspension
-Wider track for fitting real wheels and tires
-LSD
-Power Bump

The 1M is basically a [Fixed] version of the 135 - which was already great to start with, so to those of us in the know from the beginning, the 1M's success was nothing short of expected
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      03-02-2013, 11:37 AM   #12
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      03-02-2013, 01:33 PM   #13
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That car just takes a great thing and kicks everything up a notch.

Its funny how BMW just took the gripes that us early adopters had in 2008 and 2009 and turned them into a new car.

ie we wanted the 135 to have.

-Tighter Suspension
-Wider track for fitting real wheels and tires
-LSD
-Power Bump

The 1M is basically a [Fixed] version of the 135 - which was already great to start with, so to those of us in the know from the beginning, the 1M's success was nothing short of expected
LSD was never going to happen on the non M. Last time did was with the E36 compact.

It's too bad the 1M didn't get the engine they originally had slated for it which was a 360hp S54. That would have been utter perfection if they had gotten it past emissions. I definitely would have snagged one.
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LSD was never going to happen on the non M. Last time did was with the E36 compact.

It's too bad the 1M didn't get the engine they originally had slated for it which was a 360hp S54. That would have been utter perfection if they had gotten it past emissions. I definitely would have snagged one.
That wouldn't be very smart. Why would you spend all that time fitting a new engine in for just 20HP more? And 100TQ less??!

Sure if they have new engine that NA with as much TQ as the 1M sure great go for it. Other wise you'd be stupid to want a 360HP S54 in the 1M.

I'll stick with my N54T thanks.
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That wouldn't be very smart. Why would you spend all that time fitting a new engine in for just 20HP more? And 100TQ less??!

Sure if they have new engine that NA with as much TQ as the 1M sure great go for it. Other wise you'd be stupid to want a 360HP S54 in the 1M.

I'll stick with my N54T thanks.
That was the original plan from BMW. Everyone knows the weak link of the 1M is the engine which hardly lives up to what a proper M engine is. And I've had torque loaded BMWs before, it was part of the reason I sold it.

And seeing as S54 engines make 330whp with minor bolt ons, I can only imagine where a proper set of cams and some factory R&D could take you.
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Good news for me! I just picked one up today! 2010 with 25k miles. Under warranty for maintenance and everything til 2016 or 100k. Pics tomorrow.
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Good news for me! I just picked one up today! 2010 with 25k miles. Under warranty for maintenance and everything til 2016 or 100k. Pics tomorrow.
Best year IMO. Enjoy and take care of it.
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Good news for me! I just picked one up today! 2010 with 25k miles. Under warranty for maintenance and everything til 2016 or 100k. Pics tomorrow.
Perfect! I wish I searched out a CPO one myself but I had my perfect car sitting there and I couldn't pass it up. Got my '10 with 24k on the clock and I just hit 37xxx. I think my HPFP is about to go but I already have an apt with the dealer in a few days.
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Best year IMO. Enjoy and take care of it.
Yeah, I did my research... Knew I wanted a 2010 for whatever reason haha. And oh I will take care of it. Im changing oil today (even tho the stealership said they just changed it). I dont trust anyone working on my car really if its something simple I can do myself. I haven't read through all of the stickies yet so this question is probably answered elsewhere but what oil are you guys running? I assume just same spec and approved oil for e46? I've been running mobil 1 0w-40 on my 330.

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Perfect! I wish I searched out a CPO one myself but I had my perfect car sitting there and I couldn't pass it up. Got my '10 with 24k on the clock and I just hit 37xxx. I think my HPFP is about to go but I already have an apt with the dealer in a few days.
Yeah I had no intentions of buying it when I drove up to kansas city to see it, but once I merged onto the highway on that test drive...... you know the rest.
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That was the original plan from BMW. Everyone knows the weak link of the 1M is the engine which hardly lives up to what a proper M engine is. And I've had torque loaded BMWs before, it was part of the reason I sold it.

And seeing as S54 engines make 330whp with minor bolt ons, I can only imagine where a proper set of cams and some factory R&D could take you.
And while theyre at it they shouldve put an S65 in there because its lighter than the S54 and the N54.

And with the way BMW is going the N54 actually perfectly matches the description of proper M engine, theyre just changing their definition of proper.

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LSD was never going to happen on the non M. Last time did was with the E36 compact.

It's too bad the 1M didn't get the engine they originally had slated for it which was a 360hp S54. That would have been utter perfection if they had gotten it past emissions. I definitely would have snagged one.
Im aware. LSD was an optional part of the cold weather package on most BMWs up until the middle-end of the E36.

Its a stupid move when a 22K V6 Mustang has one, but whatever, its what theyve decided.




Scott also said a lot of other things during 1M development that didnt come true - 1M vert comes to mind.
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