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      01-14-2013, 08:38 AM   #23
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are the ZII's symmetric?
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      01-14-2013, 09:10 AM   #24
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It doesn't surprise me that they use RE-11. I have them on one of my sets of wheels and they are a great tire, especially to learn on. They give a lot of audible feedback (screeching) so you know when you're getting close to the limit whereas my R-S3 don't make any noise until Im sliding. Like I said before the RE-11 outlast any of the others and are hands down the most friendly towards unexperienced drivers largely due to the audible feedback but also the predictability.

Also just to feed my curiosity... how old are the z1s on your e36 (date stamp)? and they are the z1 star specs not the regular z1 right?

On a side note, I see you're from Sacramento and head out to Thunderhill. When is your next track day? I may be out there this friday with Performance Technic and Im signed up for Feb 8 with NCRC. Hope to meet you out there soon!
Hah, that's cool I'm with NCRC at Laguna Seca next weekend, well Monday anyways, and Thunderhill Feb 8th so I'll see you there. I love racing with NCRC. Cool guys and cheap fees. I think I'm in point by or open can't remember, but we could ride with each other when we are not on the track. Hopefully it won't rain on us.

I do have the Star Specs on my e36 they only have about 1500 miles on them since I don't drive the car that much in the winter they are still fairly new. I like them the best for auto-x since the tread wear is above 180 and they are way cheaper than the RE-11's. For auto-x I can't see them being much different so might as well spend less for the same performance. Plus I'm gonna cage and gut the car and the class I want to run only allows a tread wear rating of 200 or greater.
Z1s are almost exactly the same price, within $100/4 tires as the RE-11s running a staggered setup. At least on TR they are. About $1100 for a set of 235/40 and 265/35 18s
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      01-14-2013, 06:08 PM   #25
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Z1s are almost exactly the same price, within $100/4 tires as the RE-11s running a staggered setup. At least on TR they are. About $1100 for a set of 235/40 and 265/35 18s
I would imagine he runs 17s on the e36. RE-11s for 17s are stupid expensive compared to other tires. I bought 2 full sets for R-S3 (8 tires) for LESS than 1 set of RE-11. Also Z1SS are about $300 cheaper per set than the RE-11 in most 17" sizes.
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WHAT SORCERY IS THIS!?

Don't they have like a 200 treadwear rating? Hankooks have like a 280 or 300 and it took me from april to september to wear them bald. The fronts had like 3/32" , 4/32", and the backs were below 2/32". I didn't THINK I drove like a maniac... matt do you drive like a granny? Haha. It was maybe 10-12K miles that I did that summer
I have no idea...but these are my star specs after about 15K miles. I do rotate them though, so I guess that really helps.







If the new tires last as long as these while being as fast as these are I will be very very impressed.
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I have no idea...but these are my star specs after about 15K miles. I do rotate them though, so I guess that really helps.

If the new tires last as long as these while being as fast as these are I will be very very impressed.

You must have missed quite a bit of track or auto-x events in those 2 summers. When I had the 1er with 255 square even with rotating the tires and the -2.5* camber. Tires were worn out before the season ended. Usually 10-12 auto-x events and 2-3 track days with about 5-6k total miles or even less I can't remember. But yeah I wen through like 4 sets of Star Specs. It is a shame that Dunlop doesn't offer 275s in 17s.
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You must have missed quite a bit of track or auto-x events in those 2 summers. When I had the 1er with 255 square even with rotating the tires and the -2.5* camber. Tires were worn out before the season ended. Usually 10-12 auto-x events and 2-3 track days with about 5-6k total miles or even less I can't remember. But yeah I wen through like 4 sets of Star Specs. It is a shame that Dunlop doesn't offer 275s in 17s.
Yeah. I had turbo issues during the summer. Car wasnt driven hard from july to september
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I compared the Tread Width of the Z1 and ZII as they are listed in tire rack for the few sizes which are actually listed and it turned out that ZII are slightly smaller than Z1
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One guy had them at our auto x today and he said they were bigger the his old z 1 star specs
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